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02.01.2009, 17:52 | Язык оригинала: Русский #1 |
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T. Ehrmann, head artprice.com, analyzes the Art Market
Here is an interview with T. Erman, in my opinion, quite ridiculous, that is, I believe that his analysis of the market completely untenable. But no matter, our job - to translate, and your - read and draw their own conclusions, so pleasant reading.
Thierry Ehrmann, the president-general dirketor artprice.com analyzes the market of art Lyonmag.com, 2.01.2009. Interview Laurent Seven have affected the art market crisis? FC - Yes, the downward correction is very strong. And lightning. Now the Art Market reacts with almost the same speed as the financial markets. Therefore Artprice developed indicator of confidence subscribers, AMCI. And we note that this indicator falls upon a few hours after the collapse of the indicators or the NASDAQ Dow Jones. significantly diminished if the market of art?
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02.01.2009, 18:54 | Язык оригинала: Русский #2 |
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Liana, thank you very much, very interesting interview!
But it seems that we (at ARTinvestment.RU) there is reason to disagree with the Director Artprice.com. The fact that we now intend to introduce new codes of the art market - at a price sub-bands. This index will be similar to what we have now, but calculated on the following price ranges (current prices):
So. Preliminary results are such that none of the above my price segments of the market is not any appreciable fall of the indices. This means that to date, any significant correction in prices at auctions does not happen. There is a legitimate question: what, then, caused the fall of the general market index this fall, which remarkably illustrate our general indexes graphics art market? And it caused a redistribution of sales in the listed price segments. Significantly reduced the number of sales in higher-priced market segments, and the proportion of low-cost sales began to prevail, that affect the average market prices, led to their decline. Once a reservation, that while this is only the preliminary results. However, they are consistent with the mood of the market. Decent Work collectors now take, do not sell, fearing the crisis mood. But the real masterpieces are sold at a very pre-crisis prices, which confirms and Mr. Ehrmann. In addition to these new price indexes on sub-bands that I have already mentioned, we will take another graph showing the distribution of sales between the same price sub-band to the analyst can gain a complete picture of the situation on the market. In general, if all goes according to plan, two or three weeks, you all can see for yourself. |
02.01.2009, 19:01 | Язык оригинала: Русский #3 | ||
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Now any analysis is interesting and important. And suddenly, we all when the wind blows on the water, once burnt child's milk? Or overly optimistic looking at trends artinvestitsy? |
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02.01.2009, 20:33 | Язык оригинала: Русский #4 |
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Admin,
There is another segment of the art market, which is not mentioned, although sales in its more than half of all sales of art throughout the world. This is a private sale, which are little publicized, but their volume is much more auction or gallery-. But statistics are no such sales. And will never be. But some data on prices is quite well known. Of course only in Russia. Over the last two weeks of communication with sellers can say that prices have fallen by 20%-40%. And this is the first thirty names in Russian painting and the top twenty in Ukrainian. That is, that the spring-summer sold for $ 100,000 can now be bought for 60000 $ -80000 $. And there are quite specific and realistic proposals. And not isolated. According to modern art can not say anything, no one has proposed, but it is a fall in prices will (and already are) even more. And yet it seems to me that the redistribution of sales towards lower-cost painting was not. Just went to some panic and lower prices on expensive painting, but not increased sales of cheap. There at all time to buy. Time to sell will come later. |
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02.01.2009, 21:46 | Язык оригинала: Русский #5 | |
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It is clear that this is only on sale at auction. But it is - an insignificant figure. Perhaps correction auction prices simply have not yet happened and will happen a little later. Time will - we shall see. |
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03.01.2009, 08:31 | Язык оригинала: Русский #6 |
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Admin, I agree with you, an interesting interview.
It already is in full swing .. Sasha, in Russia you have to consider that 70-80%of sales takes place outside auction houses and galleries, and the change in prices in August is very significant. (In private sales, prices declined.) |
03.01.2009, 10:53 | Язык оригинала: Русский #7 |
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Zhenya, once again remind you that we are talking about the art market indexes that are calculated solely on the results of auction sales. There is no other way to calculate the indices and there can not be.
If there is a correction in prices outside of auction sales, then sooner or later it must occur in auction sales. Indices only state that so far any serious korretsii price at auction was not. Although, for example, our indices of consumer activity is clearly signaling that the number of sales declined. This is partly due to the lack of decent offers on today's auction. However, I do not think that the auctioneers so easy to give up and meekly go to the decline in prices. They have this absolutely not interested, so that the auctions will be held until the last. But the galleries and private owners nowhere to go, because they often do not have such accumulated reserves, as in auctions, and in order to survive, they have to sell, albeit at reduced prices. Let's see what happens next. |
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03.01.2009, 11:34 | Язык оригинала: Русский #8 | ||
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Another thing is that the highest level, surrounded by diplomas and certificates - it's not for Russia, where such things simply outstanding units and, more recently, millions have paid for everything, including the very average quality of work such as Aivazovsky, Luba, Deineka, etc. That is, it seems to me to be very correct, and this work should go back to the middle range, the place where they are. As an index developed at artprice, it is, of course, nonsense: it simply reflects the people's attitude to the crisis, in fact gleaned from the media and has no relationship to the art market. But the indexes developed on this site, I think, cause much more confidence. [color="# 666686"]Added after 14 minutes[/color] Цитата:
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03.01.2009, 12:02 | Язык оригинала: Русский #9 |
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On the names look the same, at least even hedgehog known first names in Russian painting. Just you have a factor of Moscow, where the price of painting is not changed, if not increased. But outside of Moscow, another Russia and other prices, which are now lower. Yes, and even at times of peak prices for painting all tried to sell his paintings in Moscow, where they cost several times higher. So in the capital of the fall in prices probably is not worth waiting for ...
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03.01.2009, 12:11 | Язык оригинала: Русский #10 |
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artprice.com-is the leading analytical resource in the west (dozens of analysts working professionals, analyzed hundreds of auctions every day, reviewed thousands of sites on art, etc.) and write that the indices that they are developing-nonsense? And then who is authoritative for your resource? (except artinvest.ru)
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