Collectors

[Евгений]

Сообщение от fross

with contempt and condescension to speak to the thousands of unknown artists.

All collectors, art dealers are always respectful to the artists (no matter young or old, popular or a beginner.)
Formulate clearly his idea that you would like to collect?

[fross]

Сообщение от Eugene

Formulate clearly his idea that you would like to collect?

Dear Eugene! If I knew the answer to your question!
Tastes are changing, and not vposlednyuyu turn under the influence of some members of this forum.

[Meister]

fross, and that greatly changed recently? )

[fross]

Сообщение от Meister

fross, and that greatly changed recently? )

You will not believe!
But not that I no longer like the old, but new, which I know now, somehow changed and supplemented and expanded and ... vobschem do not know, I'm not a writer and critic - I can not describe.
And I realized that if he did not collect so exactly what is not once collected. That is, should be something whole, has some meaning, I suppose.
Who have any ideas?

[LCR]

Сообщение от fross

You would not believe!
But not that I no longer like the old, but new, which I know now, somehow changed and supplemented and expanded and ... vobschem do not know, I'm not a writer and critic - I can not describe.
And I realized that if he did not collect so exactly what is not once collected. That is, should be something whole, has some meaning, I suppose.
Who have any ideas?

There are different types of collectors. Shchukin, for example, was a very methodical man. Most people to whom he showed his collection, called attention to the fact that among the paintings were empty seats, and their question, he replied that this place should hang, say, a Cezanne painting of a certain period, and with such a plot, which had not yet, but that he would buy.

The opposite example - Riabushinskii. Once, while in Paris, he bought a Gauguin, who was at that time completely unknown, he paid for his Gauguin, for example, 500 fragkov (I have no recollection of this price, so take the numbers from the ceiling) and took him to Moscow.
He kept an eye on this Gauguin, watched a few years - no, nothing can be done, do not lay his soul to him.
So Riabushinskii met again in Paris, picked hateful Gauguin - and drove off. Comes in a gallery, where he bought, explains, does not like him this picture of De, and the owners say, please, gladly will take it back, can pay 5000 francs.
So they made this deal.

Day 2-3 Riabushinskii, glad to be rid of the hated Gauguin's mouth (as I soon as I Sitnikova no), walking around Paris, and suddenly, he passed the gallery, he sees his former Gauguin in the window, and the price for it - 50,000 francs.
So, he came in and bought it

[fross]

No, two examples are indicative:
And systemic and passion. Well, unless the soul banker could not resist at 1000%growth.

[dedulya37]

Сообщение от fross

Well, unless the soul banker could not resist at 1000%growth.

There is an old anecdote about Russia:
We still Ivan the Terrible in the XVI century boyars said "greedy pays twice" ...

[qwerty]

Сообщение от fross

, I realized that if he did not collect so exactly what is not once collected. That is, should be something whole, has some meaning, I suppose.
Who have any ideas?

Ideas are the following.

1. Russian Foreign countries of the twentieth century. Andreenko, Berman, Burliuk Lahovsky, Feder, Tereshkovich, Lviv, Manevich, Mane-Katz, Marevna, Pozhedaev, Isaev, Mako, Orlov, Bushen, Rybak, Erte, Kikoin, Volovik, Flint. All these can be purchased: oil from 2 to 50 thousand dollars (depending on size, the quality), graphics - from 500 to 15000. There are a dozen names, all at once does not remember, later added. In this same collection of well add "first" names of emigration: Sutin, Jawlensky, Survage, Lanskoy, Sarsuns, Gorki, Tchelitchew, Fehr, Puni, Archipenko, Lipchitz, Zadkine - but this is another money.

2. Sixties. Belenok, Belyutin, Vasiliev-Mon, Vechtomov, Voroshilov, Vulokh, guests, Grositsky, Izmailov, Infante, Zhutovski, Kropyvnytskyi (both father and son), Kropivnitskaya, Kudryashov, Unknown, Roginsky, Sveshnikov, Siddur, Slepyshev, Turkish, Chubarov , Shelkovsky, Spindler, Yurlov, Yankilevsky. Price range is approximately the same as in option 1.
If your budget allows, the collection must be "great": Nemukhin, Masterkova Tselkov, Rabin, Shvartsman, Krasnopevtsev, Steinberg, Zverev, Plavinsky, Yakovlev, Rukhin, Sitnikov.

3. Leningrad School 30-50-ies of the last century. Stipa, Greenberg, Rusakov, Kupervasser, Kazan, Ermolaeva, Vedernikov, Pakulin, Pakhomov, Lebedev. In general, the same price category, oil - up to 50 thousand, graphics - up to 15.

It is possible to collect money for Reasonable collection of Western Art (now will not specify what exactly), but there will inevitably encounter problems with expertise. They, of course, be solved, but that's another story.

[qwerty]

Eugene, not "possible", but necessary. But I broke in the category of artists not on the level of talent, but at today's prices.

[fross]

qwerty Thank you very much. But I'm probably not very correctly expressed his thought. Try again. What you propose has already been raised and not a collector. Really? And as the ideas collected over a period not very new, I'm not a museum and not seek to reflect all that was in a separate period.
Generalising terms: we need the idea of allowing to build something different (in all senses). Price range of your choice - remains.