The process for the exhibition "Forbidden Art 2006" is nearing completion

[Самвел]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy

By the way, as you well imagine what the Public Chamber, who it is and how it works?

No I do not know, just one moment when it was created, there were Alla Pugacheva and company, and it was evident, as they try to go there popast.Da and do not know what it should do, that's enough simply to assume Well, what happens Gelman, about the general plan of Moscow, did it end? They realized when no longer of old Moscow. I know one thing, today disburse, and there is no significant figure, even if they do, then why should they risk their lives for the sake of preserving an old building, because to go against the current authorities are risking their lives, and not a few examples. And just talking high-sounding words, whether or Gelman Shevchuk, it's just wind. Honestly, I do not know, or rather not see a way out, how and what to do, the only thing that I can offer people art, it is idle. Want to organize an exhibition do it in apartments, cottages, without involving society as it was in the USSR, poets and artists gathered to enjoy. As time passes, and if it is present ikustvo, or brilliant poet, then society will pay tribute to, and not the majority, but a certain audience (the audience). Russia is big and very different, if some foreign cars in Moscow, then in Kimra is 120 km from Moscow, rod.dom, like a moldy basement, go to this exhibition, there is smortrelos would be great.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Samvel

Russia is big and very different, if some foreign cars in Moscow, then in Kimra is 120 km from Moscow, rod.dom, like a moldy basement, go to this exhibition, where it would simply smortrelos magnificently.

Gelman moved to the exhibition even further Kimry. In Perm, which is 1,151 km.
He is, I remind you, among other things also director of the Perm Museum of Modern Art "PERMM" and director of the Perm Center of Design.
Kimry probably need to raise you. Pull? Or go away "in the apartments, holiday homes, without involving the company, as it was in the USSR, poets, artists gathered and enjoyed?

[Posav]

[SergeiSK]

Nothing seriously, this process is completed. They'll give any reprimand, fine, no more. The authorities do not need new martyrs of the art. Yes, and they are not martyrs, and epatager.
And Gelman never be resolved to re "Forbidden Art", he, too, is not necessary. He is now almost the curator of all cultures Perm region, does what he likes and he does not prohibit. So his words are nothing more than moral support.

[Posav]

Since the previous fines paid for them "Union of Right Forces, then and now pay a similar sister organization.

[Эммануил Гедеонович]

Сообщение от luka77

And here are excerpts from the text of the "People's Cathedral":

"In war there is such thing as a" reconnaissance in force ", where one of the units attacking the enemy defense to get to show all hidden from prying eyes" surprises ": the system of fire, ambush, control centers and hidden reserves, etc. It is the role played by such a unit, dealing a blow to the provocateurs of the art movement "People's Cathedral".

In the end - we saw them all. They saw that all of them - together. And what are they against us - against Russia, its traditional values, spirituality and culture - also not alone, guided by emotions or convictions, but within a single, albeit hidden from the eye structure. We, of course, had already guessed that all these formally independent "human rights", liberals, revolutionaries, pornography, "fighters against clericalism and defense," the separatists and perverts - in fact, only the figures on a chess board, moves which "player", located far away from Russia. Just now it has become absolutely clear to all. "

It is a disease ...
Orthodoxy brain ...

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[Евгений]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy

of the Criminal Code for "Forbidden Art" can not be applied.

All normal people think so, only the forces of obscurantism, but the so-called Russian "patriots" (nationalists) for judicial prisledovanie ..
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"... The fact that the trial for the exhibition" Forbidden Art "is a violation of free speech, said earlier the European Cultural Parliament. Pursuing the organizers of Yuri Samodurov and Andrei Erofeev, authority seriously violates Russian and international legislation, said the resolution ETUC, adopted at the session in Gothenburg. the charges the sponsors feel totally unfounded. ETUC urged Russian prosecutors to stop prosecuting Samodurov and Yerofeeva ... "

http://grani.ru/Culture/art/m.179331.html

[Allena]

Сообщение от Emmanuel Gedeonovich

Orthodoxy brain

Orthodoxy got nothing to do with it, dear Emmanuel Gedeonovich. Um, respect for others and sense of tact may be present or absent from a representative of any denomination or atheist. And rude fools also occur among people professing a particular religion and among atheists. Media also played in this case is not final role - not the most plausible. Whoever heard of a "People's Cathedral", if it were not for all this noise?
And in the absence of distinct laws all adopted such exaggerated form.
I think in this case, intelligence and tact was not enough for both sides.

I share the view of Mr. Avdeeva. In my opinion, the only well-balanced perspective on the process of all that has been published. It is gratifying that it expressed exactly minister of culture.

Week 2 back in the "meantime" the channel "Culture" was a very interesting discussion of "Provocation as a technology."
Information-analytical program. Remained whether the boundaries that have not yet crossed the modern culture? Do not become a scandal in the compulsory element of pre-sales? Do not destroy themselves whether philosophy provocation? Guests: Yuri Samodurov, historian, organizer of the exhibition "Caution religion; Oleg Genisaretsky, Doctor of Arts, Deputy Director of the Institute of Philosophy, Archpriest Igor Pchelintsev, a member of Mezhsobornogo presence ROC; Ivan Lubennikov, artist; Xenia Luchenko, chief editor of Internet publishing" Tatyana's Day .

If we exclude from discussion overly emotional stance of Ms. Luchenko and, alas, stoic reluctance Yuri Samodurov listen well, to be felt to one of his colleagues, including Oleg Genisaretskogo, the discussion was very interesting. All others were trying to understand each other and find common ground is very different positions ... Moreover, it seems to me that if instead Samodurova participated in the transfer of Andrei Erofeev, the benefit would be much better for the topic and an audience for modern art.

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Сообщение от Allena

Orthodoxy got nothing to do with it

One way to do with it? "Orthodox community" smashed an exhibition against the barbarians at first brought a criminal case, and only then against Samodurov (as director of grounds, which was exhibited this exhibition) and Erofeev (as curator of the exhibition).
I believe that Orthodox Christians are very relevant to this case.
 Yuri Samodurov and Andrei Erofeev charged with second part of Article 282 of the Criminal Code ("Incitement to religious hatred and enmity"). According to orthodox works by artists Ilya Kabakov, Vyacheslav Mizin, Alexander Kosolapov, Michael Rodyns'ke contain pornographic pictures, obscene on crucifix and other Christian character and offends their feelings.