Galleries enough, but where art to fill them?

[SAH]

Сообщение от Chernomashentsev Vladimir

But how long will be able to deceive the people,

I enjoyed it very much.

Сообщение от Tjutchev

Perhaps this is so, what is very much doubt it, but do not seem to you to ask the opinion that "people who control the worldwide art-business", it would be extremely naive. Understanding the art, ie something without which it is impossible now collecting and businesses in this area, comes rather from personal experience, rather than on the advice of others. Although, of course, is not superfluous to seek the views of professionals.
Certainly, on this forum are professionals, as artists, and artdilery. But why would not you assume that I am one of them? I certainly do not control the market artbiznesa on a global scale, but quite a long time and is active in its presence. My scale is much smaller, but that is, that is.
P.S. His opinion and impose on anyone willing to listen to others forumchan. You see, in the art recognize only the authority of a connoisseur of the object. The views of the same dealers, as a rule, not objective their own interests. I tell you, as a professional.

You should know how prfessional guess that the Russian consumer is more interested in (mostly and exaggerated of course)

Сообщение от Chernomashentsev Vladimir

Shishkin - Aivazovsky - known, familiar and understandable to the masses painters.

You Mr. Saatchi is not the product. Percentage of purchases of works from Mr. Saatchi Russian customers think very, very not high.

[Jasmin]

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Сообщение от Tjutchev

You mean the experts?

And who do you mean? (The answer is a question received in response to the first question). Most Israeli forum ...

[Veronic]

Сообщение от SAH

I just loved it.

You should know how prfessional guess that the Russian consumer is more interested in (mostly and exaggerated of course)
  In Mr. Saatchi is not this good. Percentage of purchases of works from Mr. Saatchi Russian customers think very, very not high.

Yes, I too think that the Russian buyer landscapes closer than sharks. Therefore, all these exhibitions so far only acquaint the public with Western names.
Interestingly, and in Ukraine someone besides Pinchuk, the ideas of Hirst?

[Тютчев]

Сообщение от SAH

You should know how prfessional guess that the Russian consumer is more interested in (mostly and exaggerated of course)
  In Mr. Saatchi is not this good. Percentage of purchases of works from Mr. Saatchi Russian customers think very, very not high.

      Russian buyers to buy the Russian academic art, Russian art of the first half of the twentieth century and the second, that is, we buy first national art. Here we are not original way this can be attributed to Europeans and the Americans. But there are other signs:
Sales results
Major auction houses Christie `s world, and Sotheby` s announced that its turnover for the first half of 2008 - they sold art at $ 3.5 billion and $ 3.4 billion, respectively. Reports auction houses - the most important source of public information on the art market, and to them attentively looked hard TATIANA b-Markin.

Reports auction houses reflect the state of the art market is far from a perfect accuracy, but they, in fact, the only available instrument, the numbers describing one of the most closed markets in the world. Christie `s and Sotheby` s, are considered to cover more than 90%of the auction market for art, and auction that is open, the market - about half of the global art market, where the weight of deals done in private. That is about 7 billion joint turnover of the two largest houses in the first six months of 2008 - is roughly $ 14 billion derived from transactions with the art world in general.

Amount compared to other markets very small - some Russians spent in 2007 more than $ 5 billion on travel packages and more than $ 30 billion - on cars. But the noise from deals with the art is always much more than from any other acquisitions - a combination of "art and money" is still shocking. And the more (or less) in each specific transaction art (the louder the name of the artist and the celebrated painting), and the more money, the greater the resonance is a record deal. The name of the buyer in most cases remains a mystery, as if suddenly becomes known - this is gossip around.

The main heroes of the past six months were Russian. First, of course, Russian oligarch and owner of Chelsea, Roman Abramovich, who bought at auctions Sotheby `s and Christie` s, two of the major paintings of the season. "Triptych 1976" Francis Bacon for $ 86.3 million (a record for the artist and the post-war art) and "social Supervisor Sleeping" by Lucian Freud for $ 33.6 million (a record for the artist and the works of masters of good health). Then Roman Abramovich added to them a number of major works of art of the twentieth century, acquired at the fair in Basel. The third major pattern of the season - a "pond with water lilies" in 1919 Claude Monet (a record for the artist and Impressionist works). They sold in Christie `s for $ 80.5 million, the buyer is unknown, but the agent can make transactions, hinted that the cloth can remain in London, and even appear on display Tate Britain and National Gallery.

Three referred to the record buying celebrate the most profitable sector of the art market. A more detailed than that of Sotheby `s, a semi-annual report of Christie` s confirms the trend: the art of impressionism and modernism, the auction house brought $ 974 million, postwar and contemporary art - $ 800 million Given the difference in the final results in some one hundred thousand dollars, you can not doubt that the results of Sotheby `s in the main categories are the same. Russian art in the outcome of the Christie `s honor at the ninth place, globalization and integration of the Russian business elite in the global natural way has led to what Russian buyers prefer Western European modernism, and even contemporary art.

"Russian buyers in the past five years, put his considerable contribution to the collecting of European art of the last century, took the new starting position in the market of the U.S. European and Russian modern and contemporary art - consider Mikhail Kamensky, head of Sotheby's Russia," .- I think that upward trend in prices in the market of contemporary art will be preserved for a long period of time. But in the case of correction of contemporary art for art market falling by the previously occupied positions, again ceding leadership Impressionist and European modernists. "

The popularity of the buyers of modern and contemporary art - is the most distinct and striking result of six months. The transition of art from the scope of the spiritual in the material sphere, the sphere of consumption which finds many social scientists, has created favorable conditions for it to contemporary artists. Exhibition (in our case, pre-auction) of modern art is most easily transformed into a show, which is eager audience. Surviving works of art are not threatened by counterfeiting. In this case the artists themselves already famous (enough to mention Jeff Koons, Damien Hirst, Takashi Murakami) - and other auction houses and are not engaged, the first stage of the promotion of young artists - the lot gallerist, rather than an auction.

The notion that contemporary art is easier to understand than the old, somewhat exaggerated. Yet the act of buying a brilliant "inflatable" rabbit or a diamond-spangled skull production artist, whose portrait is full of glossy magazines, it is easier to decide than the purchase of paintings 400 years ago, the name of a Dutch author who does not know how, and to pronounce.

In terms of investment modern art though risky, but fast and efficient way to multiply money. Countries showing the highest growth rates - China, India, Russia (market analysts are building them in that order), chosen for financial speculation is contemporary art. While it is generally more expensive almost everything - and in the "old masters' auction houses this summer received unprecedented amounts.


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[SAH]

Сообщение от Tjutchev

I think Saatchi survive, so far as Russia is full of nepugannyh rich idiots willing to buy it all. By the way, he recently brought a stale product that failed to sell in Europe and America. I wonder whether he succeeded to sell something in reality? Most likely, yes.

Сообщение от Tjutchev

Russian buyers to buy the Russian academic art, Russian art of the first half of the twentieth century as well as the second, that is, we buy first national art. Here we are not original way this can be attributed to Europeans and the Americans.

Here is the contradiction you at every step are observed.

[Тютчев]

Сообщение от SAH

Here is the contradiction you at every step are observed.

    SAH, I see you're a big expert on the search for contradictions. Especially for you highlighted in the text of the sense dominant. (See above). If still you do not understand, write. Let me explain again.

[Черномашенцев Владимир]

Russia - the country is very controversial. And now more cosmopolitan than the West. On the one hand, Russians are buying mostly Russian art - it is closer, it is easier to understand and verify that it is cheaper. Judge by yourself.
On the other hand - a lot of buying and western products, yielding advertising. See an example of Abramovich. If the money to buy modern Russian art - there would be no problems to fill a museum paintings high.

PS

A simple example of "the people". Be equally true to two statements:

1) "The Russians are buying a lot of vodka, without comment - that we routinely

2) "The Russians are buying a lot of high-quality dry wine. Judge by myself - I do not drink vodka, and I can assure you that now, only in Russia (European countries) can buy a range of wines from around the world. Very high quality wines. In France - the dominance of fr. wine in Italy - Italian, etc. In Russia there are all.

[SAH]

Сообщение от Tjutchev

First, of course, Russian oligarch and owner of Chelsea, Roman Abramovich, who bought at auctions Sotheby `s and Christie` s, two of the major paintings of the season. "Triptych 1976" Francis Bacon for $ 86.3 million (a record for the artist and the post-war art) and "social Supervisor Sleeping" by Lucian Freud for $ 33.6 million (a record for the artist and the works of masters of good health).

Roman Abramovich on your nepuganny rich and-by?

Сообщение от Tjutchev

Especially for you highlighted in the text of the semantic dominant

As selected by you get it dominant. I personally would like to purchase it.

Сообщение от Tjutchev

You are a great expert on the search for contradictions.

Just jarring., Nothing personal.

[Тютчев]

Сообщение от SAH

Roman Abramovich on your nepuganny rich and-by?

As selected by you get it dominant. I personally would like to purchase it.

Just jarring., Nothing personal.

     
I see that you are a specialist not only to find contradictions, but also by selections. In addition to Roman Abramovich in the article referred to in general about the Russian buyers. Try to read the article again, without bias and desire to find protivorechiya.Esli that you get, you'll understand. And on no court no.
      By the way, the choice of Abramovich and I like it. Love, you know, Francis Bacon.
      P.S. No need to seek out the fleas. Try to understand. Simply striking, nothing personal.

[NATA NOVA]

Сообщение от SAH

As for the idea is stolen as you can imagine is very controversial and may require the intervention of the prosecutor's office (God forbid

You do not have any information. Read the trials. (tyzhby artists designers against X)
Names and facts lead or what?