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Старый 20.04.2013, 23:53 Язык оригинала: Русский       #251
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Dear "nut knowledge"!
"It's time to plant potatoes!"
(C)



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Старый 21.04.2013, 00:38 Язык оригинала: Русский       #252
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- Shamali hunting.
I would now delighted potatoes .
Here in Tula , you know , what potatoes, white, crumbly , it rastopchesh spoon , butter sprinkle of the lean - very tasty .
You think about that when you want to eat ?
 - About the meat.
 - And I'm talking about something quite different.
I think that's just what is promised in front of an interesting life - and immediately I feel better . Here I am such a person .
( c) < ! - ~ 7 ~ ->



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Старый 21.04.2013, 08:07 Язык оригинала: Русский       #253
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Сообщение от Maroussia ; 2565221 "
Or maybe you have and the eggs have a claim ?
Maroussia , You - a lawyer . Well, what the eggs are "claims "? They are the same - eggs <! - ~ 7 ~ -> ...
But justifiable doubts as to the authenticity of some of them (in particular - " Spring Flowers" ) - had the place to be . And, mind you , not at the forum , and from leading experts on the works of Faberge.

I'm also not inclined to interfere with God's gift to the eggs , but some untimely thought themselves suggest themselves ...



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Старый 21.04.2013, 15:55 Язык оригинала: Русский       #254
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I'm also not inclined to interfere with God's gift to the eggs, but some untimely thought themselves suggest themselves ...
Well the word "egg" has become a modern language in such a collective concept that I probably need to put thirty three quotes and smiley in addition to understand me ...

If you go back to the "Odalisque", then I, for example, the decision of the High Court in London in no way convinced. Because I know a lot of different opinions (and your included).
And I remember the long-standing interview Michael Perchenko (hard to find a descent), where he is - and I think that he - a disinterested person - to say that this same "Odalisque" he saw (in his hands) twice with an interval of many years, both in first time - there was no sign, and the second time (before the first sale to) - was already ...
Moreover shortly before the claim Vekselberg's a very similar thing happened with the house Sotheby's. There, too, figured a national treasure and the oligarch as a buyer, though all - the Greek (I hope you do not doubt that in Greece all have - and then, and more) and the decision of the court was very similar (to translate the wording will not). So Sotheby's. Unlike Christy's immediately filed an appeal. So I think, the "Odalisque" is still ahead ... It is not for nothing is so famous precedent judicial system

As for the "Faberge eggs" - the topic at the time was not covered on this forum but also very interesting to discuss

But the characteristics of the oligarchs and the origin of their money, I think, "a dead horse" and part-time investment consultants in the art, it is worth discussing in the other thread ... Well, if experts are now well accepted



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Старый 21.04.2013, 16:09 Язык оригинала: Русский       #255
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I also remember the long-standing interview Michael Perchenko
I have several times ( and from Michael as well) from a very reputable and knowledgeable people have heard very different opinions . And with the words " We all know what it is ... " more options , " falshak " - " real Kustodiev ." And most importantly , " all " once was the " clear."

And it only says that nothing is clear .



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Старый 21.04.2013, 17:23 Язык оригинала: Русский       #256
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But the characteristics of the oligarchs and the origin of their money,
And I did them and discuss interesting. <! - ~ 1 ~ ->
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I also remember the long-standing interview Michael Perchenko (it's hard to find a descent), where he is - and I think that he - a disinterested person - to say that this same "Odalisque" he saw (in his hands ) twice with an interval of many years: and for the first time - there was no sign, and the second time (prior to the first sale) - was already ...
 I will allow myself to doubt. At least on the basis that I did not just "carrying a" but looking through a microscope. It was signed there - simultaneous original paint layer. And here it is - no doubt. By the way, the signature would be authentic and in that case, if the "Odalisque" (the name is stupid, what, I wonder, Dolby .. have it come to mind?) Created "from scratch" in order to pass off the work of Kustodiev ...
Position "a respected and impartial" person who knew a priori that the serious auction house who values ​​his reputation in ignorance sells falshak, and ... - I have not commented. Private affair of each worker: report, or to remain silent in a rag. But it seems to me that since you did not say anything at the crucial moment - and then shut up. And then somehow it looks strannovatenko ...
And in general: I personally, as a famous hero Harms, it's all rather tired. So now I will go to The Maltsev market where, they say, one blind man was given a knitted shawl. <! - ~ 1 ~ -> <! - ~ 1 ~ -> <! - ~ 1 ~ ->
All - successful debate.



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Старый 21.04.2013, 17:34 Язык оригинала: Русский       #257
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So now I will go to The Maltsev market where, they say, one blind man was given a knitted shawl.
Yeah, there seems to have been an old woman and the seventh from the window fell out.
<! - ~ 7 ~ ->



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Старый 21.04.2013, 18:04 Язык оригинала: Русский       #258
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Yeah, there seems to have been the seventh and fell out the window of an old woman.
So what's there, "seventh"!
One hundred and forty-seventh ...
<! - ~ 1 ~ ->



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Старый 21.04.2013, 18:10 Язык оригинала: Русский       #259
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I also remember the long-standing interview Michael Perchenko (it's hard to find a descent), where he is - and I think that he - a disinterested person - to say that this same "Odalisque" he saw (in his hands ) twice with an interval of many years: and for the first time - there was no sign, and the second time (prior to the first sale) - was already ...
Here is a quote from the interview, I was referring to kotoruyu:

M P
Right now, Viktor Vekselberg is suing Christie's about the paintings of Boris Kustodiev's "Nude in the interior," for which laid out nearly three million dollars. He has concluded from the Tretyakov Gallery and the Center Grabar that it was a fake. A Christie's said: the work is authentic, fake signature only.

- And who is right?

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- Christie's. Kustodiev's real. I know this work for over thirty years, it was owned by a collector is very high. After his death, relatives of the collection sold out. And "Naked in the interior," when I first saw her, was not signed, then this is one of the new owners of its "signed". In other words, gave its presentation. And it happens. "


If my memory serves me, this is the full interview (on other topics) Forum was published with all the links, but not the topic of Kustodiev. In my opinion, you have to ask Eugene, somewhere in its themes of collectors

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I did not just "carrying a" but looking through a microscope. It was signed there - simultaneous original paint layer. And here it is - no doubt.
Well, yes, and Mr. London's High Court decided that the signature was applied later. I do not know which witnesses are called ...

Actually everything about this speech. Wait and see ...



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Старый 22.04.2013, 13:14 Язык оригинала: Русский       #260
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hero known as Harms, it's all rather tired


Who reads the forum, the one reading Harms, yawns.



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