Can I save the picture ...

[tunec33]

Oil on canvas, watercolor.

Who is represented, is unknown.

There is a signature "A. Shamshina (Mamshina?)

Painting suffered during the breakthrough of heating the floor above. Water poured on the back side, and stood out in part at the front.

Questions:
- Can I do this watercolor restore?
- If so, does it make sense? (The cost of restoration and painting after it)
- If not restore, then what to do with it now (plan to change the housing)? What may be "not pomoechnye" options?
- "What was that?", Ie who is the author and who MB picture?

[redbor]

Restore the possible and necessary. Specify size. We are confident that written watercolor?
Depicted. apparently, Leonardo Vinci, La

[Сима]

No problem with your picture. Only questionable technique in your description. This is Galileo, painter IP Koehler. Hangs on the site of the Omsk museum. Ie you seem to copy.

[redbor]

Sima, bravo! Exactly! Author of the original I.Keller-Viliandi
"The old man with a globe" - the author's name of 1858. It is doubtful that this is Galileo.
It's not like a well-known portraits, for example, lifetime 1624 and 1636 years.

[tunec33]

Size 73x93 cm

As for watercolor - himself not a specialist. But do remember that 30 years ago (when there was a whole) is inviting someone her "clean", but he refused, citing that it is watercolor, but he just swimmingly ... In addition, the picture is completely flat and so on, ie clearly not oil

Many thanks for link! We also thought it was either Galileo or Copernicus.

It remains to find out who this "A. Shamshina" with signature, and the approximate time of creation.

Here's the original from the Omsk museum IPS. Arts. MAVrubel:

[tunec33]

The same "The old man with a globe" bigger. The original is better than ...

[redbor]

Сообщение от tunec33

. Furthermore, the picture is completely flat and so on, ie clearly not oil ... We also thought it was either Galileo or Copernicus ... It remains to find out who this "A. Shamshina" with signature, and the approximate time of creation.:

Maybe it's just a reproduction on canvas ?

[tunec33]

Сообщение от redbor

Maybe it is just a reproduction on canvas?

Was used reproduction, would have been a star on the globe. And they are not.

In addition, the visible differences in small details (eg the top of the globe, the folds of clothes, see below). Ie is apparently "redrawn from nature.

Possess a painting from 50-ies. exactly, but probably more from the prewar era.


Left - the original, right - a copy (in its current state: ()

[redbor]

Reroduktsiya not repeat all the subtleties of the original in the absolute.
Fine - the same copy, but The Draw.

The picture possess the 50-ies. exactly, but probably more from the prewar era.

All the more. In the early 20 th century - the apex of this tehniki.Po your photo - it is very likely it oleograph. (Lithograph Oil on canvas, a process quite complex).
  Assuming that this watercolor, the surprising things:
  1. Who and why decided to paint on canvas or watercolor?
  2. What is a water color, water-insoluble from the breakthrough heating?
  Well seen - canvas negruntovanny, water washed away the dust and freshened the paint,
therefore, water-resistant paint, printing.
  Maybe this should wash out the whole picture, and it will shine colors?
  If I am wrong, and it's really watercolor,
then urgently needed restorer, can save water color, had been in the water.

[uriart]

The fact that the watercolor is not written on the canvas, so it is understandable to all.
This is most likely a lithograph pasted on canvas. This and similar spot after hitting the water.
Or paper.