Expert: Russian collectors are afraid to insure their art collection

[Dogel]

Head of the Department of Cultural Property Insurance Headquarters
apartment of "Alfa Insurance" Andrew Pile told RIA
News, what is involved in the growth of interest in the insurance of art,
Why Russian collectors are still afraid to insure their
collection, and how to protect themselves from mistakes of the expert. Interviewed
Maria Ganiyants.
- Who and when insuring works of art?
- The art of insuring museums and individuals in the transmission
exhibitions for display, transportation. Sometimes
collectors insure their fixed assembly.
We have a state - the museum - do not insure their
collection if they are stored in the funds, not moved
Exhibits. Abroad, however, state museums, too
rarely insure their meeting. I only know a couple of museums,
opting to insure their collections. For example, the Rodin Museum
Paris partially insured his congregation. As far as I remember,
insured and the Museum of the "bridge" (artists who belonged
the group Die Brücke, called the founders of the German
Expressionism - RIA Novosti) in Berlin. But insurance
museum collections, again, a rare practice. Here's a collection
The Louvre is not entirely immune, but some of the work.
- Can you estimate the amount of the insurance market of art in Russia?

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- Annual market - this is the total premium collection
for the calendar year. It should not be confused with the total cost of
insured works as one and the same product
art can be insured during the year several times. So
Now, a tool or statistical data to accurately estimate
volume of the Russian insurance market of art
does not exist.
We believe accurate figure of 15-20 million dollars. This
very modest figures - the grand prize, for example, the London
market much higher.
More often than not insure art museums, companies,
organizing exhibitions, and transportation companies,
shipment. Premiums received from individuals
people today make up about a third of all fees, and this
share is growing year by year. Most often, individuals in Russia
insure the works of Russian avant-garde of the sixties,
icon. The most expensive product - is, of course, the avant-garde.
- So, in Russia were more likely to insure art?
- Yes. We evaluated the growth of art insurance in about 20%
a year - not counting the current year, this rate of growth ahead
insurance market as a whole.
In my opinion, the increase is associated with an increase in circulation of works
Art - activates the art market and art prices too
growing.
But now we notice a slight drop in fees, which
is a reflection of the inverse trends in the market.
- How is the value of a work of art?
In respect of works of art no precise estimates,
in contrast, for example, real estate. Typically, we
provided letters of persons who are specialists
art historians, who are also familiar with the state of the art
market. These letters will be accepted as a recommendation
indirectly confirming the validity of the claimed client
value of an art object.
Much less customers come with ready-made conclusions
appraisal from a certified appraiser. In practice
insurance amount, within which will be paid
compensation shall be established by agreement of the parties.
Depending on the understanding that the customer comes either ready
or not ready to argue his vision of cost. We
appraisers are not, but because we are "in the market" and have
overview presentation, either coordinate declared
amount, or to find ways to offer its confirmation
third parties.
- And how often individuals to submit documents such as
checks of the galleries or auction invoices that can
confirm the value of a particular thing?
- It is extremely rare. Not more than 10%of the total number of complaints.
- The recent dismantling of ZPIF HC "Collection. PHOTOEFFECT"
led market participants to question the correctness of evaluation
meeting, as at the close of its fund collection "worth
half a billion dollars, "fell more than 100 times.
- Obviously, at some point evaluation was conducted
incorrectly, the assets were thrash.
- How can the professional appraisers so wrong?
- You want me to be the word 'intent'? But we must remember
that the assessment - it's just a landmark, and in its reports appraisers
write that does not guarantee that the item or asset will
alienated exactly the amount that they have specified. This
normal limitation of liability. No one can
see clearly the future: the actual selling price depends
on a variety of market factors, including random,
unpredictable.
- Many collectors have been recognized in a private conversation that
do not want to insure their meeting, fearing that
Information about them can get in tax and
criminal structures.
- Indeed, the owners of private collections of fear
insure their collections. The data in the tax we
do not provide, and do not expose information about the insured
carefully - the staff we did not chatty and informed
responsibility.
I think that these fears collectors - a reflection
the level of trust people to each other in our society as a whole.
- What is the situation with bank collections in Russia, they
Insured?
As far as I know, the serial collecting
Russia is not involved in any bank. All collections that
were in "Inkom Bank" or "Bank of Moscow", existed in
"Offline" mode, and the bank is not engaged in their management.
Banks collect art for reasons of improving the image,
raising the profile. Marketing component here as well
Important: in the end, the bank - the institutional investor
and has the right to invest in something of what is considered valid
and profitable.
- How well placed assessment? I can not have you, say,
insure false Rubens, which then, for example,
something happens and I get insurance?
- It's unlikely. Simply, if we are talking about a very expensive things
or unique, we require independent confirmation
examination. We appeal to the external experts who
conduct all necessary investigations, and the final
decision is made by a consultation. Errors can of course be
but such primitive fraud - is excluded.
- In the West, there is insurance owner from mistakes
expert. In Russia there is something like that?
- The service is professional liability insurance
art experts in the West there,
but not very common. In our country, such services
insurance companies are not available, since there is no
standardized and recognized procedures
natural result of which would be
reliable conclusions about the authenticity.
- How do you assess the prospects for investment in the arts?
- Experience shows that investment in the arts can
bring profit only in the long term - somewhere
20-40. Do they pay off in the short term - hard to say.
We looked at the market in 2008 and have been assured that he
warmed up, it was already growing more difficult. But the market
did not stop, and almost collapsed, not because of the situation
at the art market, he just followed the rest of the
economy.
Let me remind you that the art of professional management of portfolios
50 years ago did not exist, but the collection that have been
collected "amateurs" (from today's point of view), gave
the greatest growth.
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Сообщение от Dogel

- Many collectors have been recognized in a private conversation that
do not want to insure their meeting , fearing that
Information about them can get in tax and
criminal structures .
- Indeed , the owners of private collections of fear
insure their collections . The data in the tax we
do not provide, and do not expose information about the insured
carefully - the staff we did not chatty and informed
otvetstvennost.ria.ru [/SPOILER]

" ... information about the insured , do not expose
carefully - the staff we did not chatty and informed ... "
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I think that the staff - it's the weakest link .. Not to consider the cases when the online data gets personal bank accounts in ... with hands on " crust" you can always buy a database on car owners , taxes, phone numbers , property owners , register, BTI, debtors , criminals ... and a lot of things different .
The fear is understandable gatherers , the years spent gathering your favorite paintings or works of art , and no one wants to be an apartment or a country house was surrounded by crooks .
And when I think about the insurer that will come aunt , clearly does not understand anything , and say ...
" And this is spotting flow ? Something you obviously overstates the citizen .. although the larger the amount so profitable for us " .. and the desire disappears .
Already on how insurers are moving away from payments - a lot of stories . For example, you insure real estate or a collection , and it so happened that there was a fire , an insurance case.
You apply to the insurance agency to the issue of the payment and the theater begins ..

Scenario 1 N :
- Bring us permission to connect from the " Electricity " ..
- House 30 years old, I got it and I do not know how the previous owner did ..
- The citizen you understand what you say or do not understand! ? Go look for or ask the wife ..

Scenario 2 N
- The house you built ?
- Yes .. I am.
- Bring us permission to connect from the " Electricity " ..
- Please .. here's resolution .. act ..
- Where acts of the current survey ?
- ...
Show an act of measuring circuit ?
- ...
Do you have a national project ?
- ...
Where license firm for design work ?
- ...
Where the organization license to conduct electrical installation work ?
- ...

Well you are a citizen , then we head to fool ! How 's this possible ?! You lope years! ?

[Wladzislaw]

A lope need?

[Пулемётчик Ганс]

Сообщение от Wladzislaw

A lope need?

Hopping, hopping ...
That would be so soon, and said, if not rude, as if we're not working ..

[Владимир Сидякин]

Сообщение от Dogel; 2713121 "

- In the West, there is insurance owner from mistakes
expert. In Russia there is something like that?
- The service is professional liability insurance
art experts in the West there ,
but not very common . In our country, such services
insurance companies are not available , since there is no
standardized and recognized procedures
natural result of which would be
reliable conclusions about the authenticity .

Such services do exist , provided reassurance , but not everyone will be able to get reassurance on the west.
I wonder if there were precedents receive the insurance payment in ArtKonsaltinga - or they have never made ​​mistakes ?
 
From the site ArtKonsalting " Liability of experts for the results of studies carried out by the standards of Art Consulting , insured against unintentional errors and omissions companies ' INGOSSTRAKH " and " Alfa Insurance » "http://www.artcons.ru/experty/index.html

 "One of the biggest advantages of" Art Consulting "- this is what their expertise recognizes and accepts the western market reinsurers , - said the representative of" AlfaStrakhovanie . " - Also, " Art Consulting " has the opportunity to answer for his mistake because the liability of insured, while separately taken the expert shall not be liable for their mistakes . " With Irina Karnaevoy agrees director of the cultural values ​​of the company , " Marsh - Insurance Brokers" Olga Seravkin : "At the present time, " Art Consulting " - in fact the only independent institution in Russia , whose ratings are accepted by Western insurers. Evaluations of individual experts , auction houses or doing some examination bodies such as the center of them . IE Grabar accepted western insurers , in particular because they are discredited by a lot of mistakes . " http://www.artcons.ru/press/ocenit.html