Problems and prospects of the Russian art market

[Ольга Озолина]

Sergei Zagraevsky recently wrote an article on this subject, and it seemed interesting to discuss it on the forum.
I liked it, but I would like more specifics.
If not in the article, the discussion of it can be.

http://zagraevsky.com/market.htm

[Dogel]

The Russian market of contemporary art, there are problems, "and even what" and the prospects are, once again, "and even some".


Price and quality, that's where the dog rummaged .....


Olga, how many (denezhek) we can estimate the creature above this author?

[тандем]

Quote - "For those who are not traces the vicissitudes of global politics, explaining: BRICS - is used throughout the world stands for" Brazil, Russia, China, India, South Africa, and it means that these countries are about the same level of socio- economic development. In other words, Russia is in the minds of the West took place among the so-called Third World. "Accordingly, at Western auctions has been quoted and contemporary Russian art. Nature's not be fooled: the level of world interest in the art of any country depends on the interest itself country. And who, by and large, the interests of "third world"? only a narrow circle of specialists. "

 The author of porridge in your head, and he obviously does not monitor the vicissitudes of global politics. "If we talk about the economy, China, India and Brazil - the world's most rapidly growing economies, and to encourage investment of equal today net.Rossiya on their background - vulgar raw material appendage of the state Mego-corruption. Relatively culture-all of the above mentioned countries have very different cultural traditions and integrate them culturally, based on the "level of socio-economic development" could only be an artist, scientist, writer (strange that more and composer) Sergei Zagraevsky.
The author obviously has no idea what the art market, what are its components and is taken to talk about problems. And even gives a recipe-pending "until the general geopolitical situation will change in Russia's favor." With "art public "(!?) create "a single management mechanism and then follows a set of arguments is whether the artist is a" progressive "cultural officials, but ... thank God, all this nonsense ends pathetically, in the spirit of editorials of the newspaper" Soviet Culture "
QUOTE - "Tyutchev wrote:" In Russia one can only believe. "And let someone calls those who believe in a better future for their country, idealists and dreamers - in fact such a belief is quite pragmatic, since it is easier to carry any adversity. "

[Ольга Озолина]

Сообщение от Dogel

Price and quality , that's where the dog rummaged .....

Olga , how many ( denezhek ) we can estimate the creature more than the specified author ?

The author writes in the article , and I have them agree that the main criterion of identity now , and academic criteria for evaluation are gone , now the declarative nature of creativity . I understand this: Warhol said , and could prove to the world that his soup Campbell - a work of art . Zagraevsky the same claims about their world " neodetskih " works . Someone believes someone is not . The film was the " Quartet " seems to be called " What Men Talk About , "and they sang : " Andy Warhol , I'm not yours ") )) But it is something Warhol was still not cheap ) ) ) Zagraevsky certainly cheaper ) )

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Сообщение от tandem

If we talk about the economy , China , India and Brazil - the world's most rapidly growing economies , and to encourage investment of equal today net.Rossiya on their background - a vulgar raw material appendage of the state Mego - corruption . Relatively culture - all of the above mentioned countries have very different cultural traditions and integrate them culturally , based on the " level of socio - economic development " could only be an artist , scientist , writer ( strange that more and composer ) Sergei Zagraevsky .

And I understood it differently : the trouble is just that the West perceives as Russia . Z. wrote : " In other words , Russia in the minds of the West has taken place among the so- called "third world " . In the minds of the West , not ZAGRAEVSKY )) )

[Dogel]

Сообщение от Olga Ozolina, 1665263

))) But it is something Warhol was still not cheap))) Zagraevsky certainly cheaper))

Сообщение от Olga Ozolina

I would like more specifics.

Guided, Rating and recommendations on the cost, all the same, how much?
)))) I would like more specifics

[Ольга Озолина]

Сообщение от Dogel

Guided , Rating and recommendations on the cost , all the same , how much ? ))) ) I would like more specifics

I think this is offtopic . You are interested seriously , write him and ask yourself . [email protected]. I'm not his art -manager . Therefore, you and I replied at all , it seemed to me that the issue is related to the formation of the art market .

[artcol]

Сообщение от tandem

create " a single management mechanism "

... and lead it . And how ? ! >

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Сообщение от Olga Ozolina

trouble is just that the West perceives as Russia . Z. wrote : " In other words , Russia in the minds of the West has taken place among the so- called "third world " . In the minds of the West , not ZAGRAEVSKY )))

Obviously , Zagraevsky makes this conclusion from its situation " neodetskih " Study . Is there really no interest to anyone - your complete .
Russia can not be thrown out of the global art context . Culture has always rests on the shoulders of their predecessors ( c) ( quote not exact , it seems Pasternak ) . So the place of honor is not among the countries of the third world we deserve . But on the Global market nobody needs a rehash and sucked from the finger concepts , as well as weakness , masked for all sorts of isms and titles .

Shl I now wonder why the author wrote this article ? There's even a debate is not about anything - all sucked from the finger "from " and "before" . A striking example of provincial small-town mentality in the era of globalization .

[Ольга Озолина]

Сообщение от artcol

Obviously , Zagraevsky makes this conclusion from its situation " neodetskih " Study . Is there really no interest to anyone - your complete .
Russia can not be thrown out of the global art context . Culture has always rests on the shoulders of their predecessors ( c) ( quote not exact , it seems Pasternak ) . So it is not a place of honor among the third world we deserve . But on the Global market nobody needs a rehash and sucked from the finger concepts , as well as weakness , masked for all sorts of isms and titles .

And what you need there from Russia ? Would you favor the tradition of Russian realism " ? Its a realism as complete on the west ) ) There's just complete. Biedermeier tradition , for example ) ) or pre-Raphaelite , Victorian , etc.

[artcol]

Сообщение от Olga Ozolina

What you need there from Russia ? Would you favor the tradition of Russian realism "? That something as complete on the west )) I just completely . Biedermeier tradition , for example ) ) or pre-Raphaelite , Victorian , etc.

The answer is simple :

But on the Global market nobody needs a rehash and sucked out of thin concepts , as well as weakness , masked , for every isms and titles .

You can still like this to say: Zagraevsky - scoop the purest water . And his ratings sucked from the finger , and his articles - such as scoops . So okay ? " What a scoop can speculate about what he has no idea ?

Threat And about doom ZAGRAEVSKY : I think he needs to Vekselberg send your article, I think he looks familiarize " finance the publication of his ranking in the West >

[Ольга Озолина]

Сообщение от artcol

The answer is simple :

You can still like this to say: Zagraevsky - scoop the purest water . And his ratings sucked from the finger , and his articles - such as scoops . So okay ? " What a scoop can speculate about what he has no idea ?

Does not specify what exactly Sov Z. and his views on the art market ? And what's his ranking ? I thought the contrary , it is increasingly toward globalization refers .