Can you trust examinations certifying the authenticity of paintings

[тандем]

Сообщение от sergejnowo; 3071951"

in Europe , in quality and quantity , and sell ten times more paint than in Russia .
I can safely say that the price range up to 50,000 euros, 99.99%of the painting changes the owner without any certificate.
The lion's share of work with a price tag of 50,000 euros is also sold without a certificate - provenance plays a significant role .

You never know what anyone in these byakogo eurogroin ... They be - shame not robbed !
And about the provenance and history on our way, and there is a story here ... And what - grandfather, grandmother , folder, nurse during the war, hostilities, release took this picture as a trophy in golimye enemy and hanging it on the wall then stoich native land as the pride of all our relatives here already ..... years.
Who does not like the story - the enemy .
Definitely !

[Маруся]

Сообщение от sergejnowo; 3071951"

in Europe , in quality and quantity , and sell ten times more paint than in Russia .
I can safely say that the price range up to 50,000 euros, 99.99%of the painting changes the owner without any certificate .

in Europe , I love to fly , and in the States , too - just more profitable than in Russia.
That's when Russia will learn how to trade in Europe , according to quantity and quality,

A quote Potem must adequately :

Сообщение от Maroussia ; 3071881"

without examination - anywhere! Only expertise needed professional and responsible (in all senses )

[Сашенька]

Сообщение от tandem

You never know ...

Do not ignore the connection between Russian and foreign markets.

[тата]

Сообщение от kozhinart

Criteria investment attractiveness consists of expert assessment and sales history , exhibitions , publications, works , the sheer quality of the product in terms of its artistic value, authenticity, in this system again. Identifying counterfeit market is not necessary, if demand exceeds supply . It harms the reputation of even the affected person , as he will have to admit that he bought a fake or poor quality work .

 We are probably spinning in different market segments . Normal market fakes always hurt - the decline in sales , due to the large number of fakes and left evidence . Maybe someone more important than expertise and names ( regardless of quality and thin. Value ) , but for someone more important than authenticity and artistic merits , but for all can not vouch . Old publications and participation in exhibitions of works , of course , too, not today , added confidence in the authenticity , the acquirer , but no it does not affect the artwork itself . Just before exhibitions got the best work naturally and implement them now easier. Now even in the Tretyakov Gallery at personal exhibitions can be seen counterfeit publications even like that and not want to talk . And , gathering acknowledgments and dubious exhibitions - forgery , often sold over the years , that's no problem , " valetovskie " " Lentulova " early " Mashkov " why then whom are not necessary , despite the apparently low prices, but the real work of the same authors sweep at auction for millions. So that different markets and different customers . For example now quite in demand, even in the big collectors not only Deineki and Pimenov , but also less famous artists , and not by weak prices , they have other selection criteria - museum quality , style tune with time , plot, size and of course the first place authenticity. I think better to get a decent product , not the most famous artist than microscopic Pimenov , though the wild prices , yes nedoDeynek on scraps of paper . One unfortunate that little decent work , even those - not the very magnitude and artists. <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

[khmelev]

Сообщение от Art-ort

Artem, to see photos of "masterpieces"-can "skin not worth

here there are pictures: http://www.online812.ru/2014/04/11/016/

[тата]

Сообщение от khmelev

there are pictures here: http://www.online812.ru/2014/04/11/016/

Unfortunately we do not see pictures Grigorieva .....
Can not there looking for?

[khmelev]

Asked about the pictures from the collection Azadovsky.
Grigorieva about this topic in general did not say, I think.

[СергейСпб]

Сообщение от acetate

I think is better to get a decent product , not the most famous artist than microscopic Pimenov , though the wild prices , yes nedoDeynek on scraps of paper . One unfortunate that little decent work , even those - not the very magnitude and artists .

Well , of course! Sadly , it is necessary to pronounce a little - not - by - syllable . Although the reason is simple - the buyers ( the vast majority ) do not have ( and can not ) own judgment about the quality of work. " Microscopic " , "under " , sketches, sketches, all this material for museum studies . And only.

[K-Maler]

Сообщение от Maroussia

in quantity and quality,

The amount depends on the amount of money, but quality - the quality of their owner ...

So ..............?

[kozhinart]

Сообщение от acetate

We all probably spinning in different market segments . Normal market fakes always hurt - the decline in sales , due to the large number of fakes and left evidence . Maybe someone more important than expertise and names ( regardless of quality and thin. Value ) , but for someone more important than authenticity and artistic merits , but for all can not vouch . Old publications and participation in exhibitions of works , of course , too, not today , added confidence in the authenticity , the acquirer , but no it does not affect the artwork itself . Just before exhibitions got the best work naturally and implement them now easier. Now even in the Tretyakov Gallery at personal exhibitions can be seen counterfeit publications even like that and not want to talk . And , gathering acknowledgments and dubious exhibitions - forgery , often sold over the years , that's no problem , " valetovskie " " Lentulova " early " Mashkov " why then whom are not necessary , despite the apparently low prices, but the real work of the same authors sweep at auction for millions. So that different markets and different customers . For example now quite in demand, even in the big collectors not only Deineki and Pimenov , but also less famous artists , and not by weak prices , they have other selection criteria - museum quality , style tune with time , plot, size and of course the first place authenticity. I think better to get a decent product , not the most famous artist than microscopic Pimenov , though the wild prices , yes nedoDeynek on scraps of paper . One unfortunate that little decent work , even those - not the very magnitude and artists. <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

I will not argue with you , but there is litter on the ground floor and on the top , (you can call it sigmente market). Price nowhere yavlyaetsya indicator of the quality product and yavlyaetsya indicator of demand for the product in a specific period of time.