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31.03.2014, 23:42 | Язык оригинала: Русский #1 |
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Can you trust examinations certifying the authenticity of paintings
Can you trust examinations certifying the authenticity of the pictures
03/27/2014 The so-called " reality Basner " * Total figure expertise. Basner opinion , on the one hand, on the other hand - the technological and artistic expertise of the Russian Museum , the Hermitage, the Marshall Center . IE Grabar . And the picture B. Grigorieva " restaurant " Basner still considers genuine, Russian Museum - fake. So I had the idea to understand what these same technological expertise, as they do, with what care and thoroughness. I studied it for example , on the one hand, the State Russian Museum ( Museum) , on the other hand, Constantine Azadovsky known historian of culture , art history with higher education. Example is interesting because Azadovskmy entered the museum in acute conflict relationship just on the basis of examinations. However, Russian museums since 2006 expert opinions make smoking, so they began to call them with advice , and it is about them and will be discussed . Detective prehistory The story begins in 2008, when Constantine Azadovsky wanted to sell two works from his collection, he inherited from father - the famous literary critic Professor Mark Azadovsky . K. Azadovsky : " My collection has always been relatively modest. She had about a hundred paintings , prints, drawings and etchings collected by my father , a passionate lover of art. A close friend of his father was a collector of FF Notgaft familiar Benois , MVDobuzhinsky , BM Kustodiev and others. In the 1930s and Azadovsky Notgaft lived in the same apartment on Herzen Street . Works fall into this apartment, exposed amateur assessment and then found myself permanent home on the wall of one of the rooms - or at Azadovsky or at Notgafta . " It should be noted that the work fell to Notgaftu Azadovsky and artists during his lifetime , so it is difficult to assume that a fake created when market- auction price for their work not jumped , and emigrants AN Benoit and SY Sudeikin generally were in the USSR honored. This is the question about the reliability of the so-called " provenance " - the origin of the work . And in November 2008, two works from the collection of Mark Azadovsky his son decided to sell and buy their collector wanted AV Azbel . Gouache Sudeykin (1911) watercolor and Benoit ( costume sketch for the play by Moliere " Doctor willy-nilly ," 1921). Wanting to authenticate both works Azbel addressed the belt ; Azadovsky not mind - was sure that things are true. Having been through a couple of days a verbal response (say, both things which are false ) Azadovsky insisted that the examination was conducted and issued officially . After this date belt made two official detention. Both of December 5, 2008 , and both have not confirmed these artists authorship .
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01.04.2014, 07:38 | Язык оригинала: Русский #2 | |
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------------------------------ "Conscience , the category of ethics , which characterizes a person's ability to exercise moral self-control ... " |
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01.04.2014, 08:38 | Язык оригинала: Русский #3 |
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To me, this lack of competence , or rather the lack of desire to specialize .
One need not be a prophet from God, it's a matter of concentration of the initial information , in other words , specialization . For example , an art historian specializing in Benois . If he examined , described and analyzed for yourself all available in an accessible form of A. Benoit , " smashed " their data , including equipment, materials and signature , " tied " to their geographically and theatrical performances , for example ... .. This specialist need 30 seconds to "diagnosis" . In the presence of basic information in maximum size , any original watercolor easily " squeeze " in the number of works available in the database . |
01.04.2014, 09:31 | Язык оригинала: Русский #4 |
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01.04.2014, 11:26 | Язык оригинала: Русский #5 |
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these problems have long thought in relation to medicine, where the so-called " objective indicators " themselves a little, mean that without analyzing their physician combined with other data - history - the same provenance , direct inspection and surveillance.
But still if under a microscope gonokokki densely cover the entire field of view , it means only gonorrhea and gonorrhea, even if the patient vows of virginity. |
01.04.2014, 13:44 | Язык оригинала: Русский #6 | |
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Leaving aside strashshshnye medical analogy , really want to understand : - Azadovsky achieved institute proceedings - Or now " under the deal Basner " journalists whipped the old foam on the principle: Цитата:
Something as of today has changed? ( in connection with the mention in the article of Police) Maybe you know? |
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01.04.2014, 13:51 | Язык оригинала: Русский #7 | |
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Recoil was not long zhdat.Primeta today's time - the more expertise in the subject , the more likely it is that pleases falshak.Odno - play or not to play in this " Snap " collector decides for himself. |
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01.04.2014, 16:35 | Язык оригинала: Русский #8 | |
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I understand Azadovsky quoted audit materials in their statements as a result of which he refused to initiate criminal proceedings. And in my view rightly , p.ch. no elements of crime there. Article is interesting because it reveals an " third front " in Basner . P.ch. this is the article for Basner , but not against Vasilyeva and clearly against the museum . And strongly opposed . It is necessary to understand a fresh mind . <! - ~ 1 ~ -> |
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01.04.2014, 16:56 | Язык оригинала: Русский #9 |
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And this is like the old joke:
But what about the conscience? And I agreed with a conscience! <! - ~ 7 ~ -> .................. Always easier to say: This is not it. And take money for "expertise." And you can even destroy the artists signature on the paintings. As an option. <! - ~ 1 ~ -> Последний раз редактировалось eustace; 01.04.2014 в 18:02. |
01.04.2014, 17:32 | Язык оригинала: Русский #10 |
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Nobody can be trusted, because falshaki already included on the official websites of artists.
(Dead, famous, expensive and popular) And in the history of auction sales as the originals hang ... Saw firsthand. |
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