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15.02.2014, 22:20 | Язык оригинала: Русский #31 |
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You probably do not in the subject, while there is no real legal liability for incorrect examination, you will not have any liability for virtually any price examination.
" Art Consulting" insures conclusions constitute not only their experts and lawyers, and so make that read 4 times you may realize that even in the event of an error , the chances of you to get virtually no compensation . <! - ~ 1 ~ -> |
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15.02.2014, 22:27 | Язык оригинала: Русский #32 | |
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While it turns out effectively protects only auction. There's the whole chain is bonded contracts. If the wrong thing - the auction refund may itself with who has passed her ask . While the only way. Well, or agreement with all parties to conclude released different. But, it is in London, where the courts operate . Criminal liability shall be to advance to the manufacturer forgery - if put everyone he misled - that quickly all the experts , dealers , art dealers and auction will be in prison . Последний раз редактировалось Solnce; 15.02.2014 в 22:37. |
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15.02.2014, 22:58 | Язык оригинала: Русский #33 | |
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Responsibility complicated question. Watching what. Criminal will not be exact. They need to beat the ruble, ruble. |
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15.02.2014, 23:20 | Язык оригинала: Русский #34 |
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Ruble would be good, but as they say hot Finnish guys: "From an empty bottle did not pour her" <! - ~ 1 ~ ->
And even if it is not empty, the whole issue confirms that too, especially not pour her. <! - ~ 1 ~ -> |
15.02.2014, 23:30 | Язык оригинала: Русский #35 |
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Yes, if so, of course, but then won on but Cho.
But when the rain comes, it is always dirty. Retire .....
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16.02.2014, 10:09 | Язык оригинала: Русский #36 |
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IMHO , the issue is quite simple. Liability arises when there is intent. The expert can be wrong - and in different directions. The experts may have different opinions , and the court will weigh them in the balance power , weight, in the academic world , the availability of monographs, etc.
Old thing , published in periodicals or listing 50 years ago can not be the subject of criminal and even civil proceedings p.ch. buy as it is. Is that Marchand or deliberately concealed akutsionist important information. Vekselberg IMHO incident only confirms the rule. But the deliberate creation bullshit course in prison. Also, as it confirmed , though there certainly proving to be difficult. I think that soon we will see in Europe is one of the most interesting processes , where paintings , say , Chagall - for all he has known institution - Committee Chagall napodtverzhdal Researcher museum " Uryupinsk ." This researcher once wrote several articles about Chagall in local refereed collections. And then slapped attributions on fake paintings , whether sold simpletons , whether insured and burned ... Here is really a problem ... And in Basner - the problem is not with Grigoriev . There is clear, because there was no expert activity , and was a typical deception , breach of trust and misappropriation of money fraudulently . There is a problem with Saryan , Sapunov prochitmi and similar works . Will prove that it was zavvedomo false conclusions obtained for money or a percentage of the sale. If we succeed , it will really be a precedent. And a good lesson to some " experts " |
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16.02.2014, 11:33 | Язык оригинала: Русский #37 | |||
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But , those who made fake. Catapulted the fraud on the antique market . Framed lot of people ( and if the painting was sold to the bandit - he still pereubivaet all ) . And can be criminally punished. He has a composition of fraud . But this " mafia " falsifiers nobody touches . Added after 3 minutes Цитата:
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Raise activity " Art Consulting " - he does not make mistakes ? And let's assume a mistake on the script and when a person intentionally say " bullshit " - man carries enormous damage while , and someone gets a chance to buy for pennies script. Now, if a bribe to prove for " confirmation" , then the intent is. And that would not run into this " expertise " should be checked in several centers . Vasiliev could check before the transaction painting in the Tretyakov Gallery , Grabar , belt and did not. Why ? Последний раз редактировалось Solnce; 16.02.2014 в 11:45. Причина: Добавлено сообщение |
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16.02.2014, 11:56 | Язык оригинала: Русский #38 | |
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And you said nothing of the fact that the picture in two months muryzhili belt and said that authentic. And then gave a negative assessment. |
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16.02.2014, 12:10 | Язык оригинала: Русский #39 | |
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But seriously in muddy water belt was a long time , especially with the expertise of modern art , you did not offer never for a positive conclusion and even address of the buyer, to take expert and a considerable share . Let him cast a stone who has not been in such a situation . |
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16.02.2014, 12:49 | Язык оригинала: Русский #40 |
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I do not know when I decided to confirm its Vasiliev Grigorieva , for
know that THG does examination 6 years , and it continually references . Left critics of the Tretyakov Gallery , but not examination . Are discussing that experts in NINE and some Grabar the same people , except for some individuals , some worked there previously , others now . In NINE invite from Grabar, to make technological artkonsaltinge (analysis of pigments UV , multiple shooting , etc. ) , often this and limited to, want to get art history - invite those same experts or employees of Grabar Tretyakov Gallery.
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