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Старый 21.08.2008, 15:40 Язык оригинала: Русский       #1
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По умолчанию Linguistic question

Here is a quote from the article I just read:

"go anywhere, we are not going to hand out trophies. We'll see what kind of trophies and so on why the Georgian side to left, but she had abandoned them. Basically weapons recycle. There are weapons in sufficient quantities and to be honest we do not need the weapons that have received here, "- said the general".

What does the word "Recycle"? By implication, he seems to mean "destroy", but it is very strange, because "utiliser" in French - "to enjoy and use.

Explain, please!



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Старый 21.08.2008, 15:47 Язык оригинала: Русский       #2
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probably not completely "destroyed"; recycle - use anything unnecessary to use household or industrial waste to benefit by finding their application.
recycle - France. utiliser, Syn: use, consume



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Старый 21.08.2008, 15:52 Язык оригинала: Русский       #3
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But darling, my Tamilochka on context like not get?

Frankly speaking - the phrase master general I was very puzzled: confused:

Incidentally, you will, of course, can not remember, but was formerly a tepmin - scrap raw material, "he meant, I think all sorts of rags, which were for recycling, in general, something vrome textile equivalent of junk.



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Старый 21.08.2008, 16:17 Язык оригинала: Русский       #4
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I am not a linguist, but my father - a retired military officer By recycling certainly understood that sawed and remelting. There are also entire enterprise for utilization of equipment and ammunition. Blowing them can not, but there is a complex processing technology. The word is really elusive, but likely will go on the mind: something in the furnace, something on the training base (the NATO weapons after all), and some of that and for special assignments may be useful
I just look at kototory Nagovitsyna and marvel at what he is clever. Where are they such an officer in the General Staff unearthed? Face of the military, but it professor. Every day the press conference. With him sitting next referent, but more time resting. Periodically, the idea throws all. A Nagovitsyn Shparo and шпарит: figures, texture, historical analogies, calm, balanced, no foul language and emotions. In order to juggle both facts and figures require serious training time. When he has time? Just diva dayus.



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Старый 21.08.2008, 17:58 Язык оригинала: Русский       #5
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phrase lord general I am very puzzled
Well, ... Building not know how to walk, but there is in a general linguistics ... : D

"Something in the furnace, something on the training base (the NATO weapons after all), and some of that and for special assignments may be useful"
Absolutely agree with Vladimir. Some weapons will take the samples for the study of trainees (and even to explore new technologies, technical solutions, many times already so it was - remember the automobile industry)
Some weapons can be dismantled for parts, if our samples. And if they do, and under our own fire hit, then they will learn "weaknesses" to defeat, then to correct the shortcomings of engineers.
Part of weapons to blow up all his Nelia could use to anyone (then, however, will sell for scrap metal)
Hence, Liana, follows the old-new business - Waste, which you rightly mentioned. And in general, military - people are resourceful, something nibed invent.



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Старый 21.08.2008, 18:34 Язык оригинала: Русский       #6
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I immediately think of reportage, in which our military gladly talked about the NATO weapons - such as a convenient, easy, high-tech, but this is unreliable. Type in the battle trash. They cited an example - rifle from lightweight alloy is very light (in my M4, but I can lie) fell from a height of board of "KAMAZ" and split in half. Or a machine gun, which produced 45 tape cartridges and barrel "led". And then I remembered the arguments about 10 years ago. Were compared m16 assault rifle and our "Kalash". Well, he says m16 on the characteristics of accuracy, range, and so had a substantial advantage. But Kalash was one of the most convincing - the price. m16 seems to cost about $ 1500, and the Kalashnikov - about 500.
Authentically you? For that he bought for it and sell
In army weapons are not an expert, but I can tell you about hunting. Imported guns for quality superior to our guns on all counts, except for the price (import comparable grades are 4-5 times more expensive than Russian). There is a true mythical custom rifle manufactured in Russia, and which are th-th. But it did not compare correctly. Italian or German you take a gun in hand - can be seen that lovingly done. And about this we can not say. In general, as with cars, and with rifles.



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Старый 22.08.2008, 07:36 Язык оригинала: Русский       #7
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This past Sunday watched on NTV transfer "Their manners" - a repeat of some of the past issues with the plot about Yemen. Here is his announcement from the site ihnravy.ru:

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Yemen: armed and dangerous

Kalashnikov - the authoritative small arms worldwide. For residents of certain provinces of Yemen - it is a constant companion, with whom they had never parted. This is not only a symbol of their manhood, but also a necessary piece of clothing. Exit the house without a weapon for them is like going for a walk naked. Film crew program is sent on a dangerous journey to the "Wild East". In these places, even a child distinguish Russia from the Bulgarian AKM or Chinese. But any adult can easily falls into the sleeve from fifty meters. Yemenis will handicap the steepest kinoshnogo cowboy!
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The minefields, roadblocks, jeeps with machine guns, camouflaged tanks along the roads - all this modern Yemen. The Civil War ended in 1994, but to call this country is still hard to calm. Therefore, foreigners travel here only with armed guards. The fact is that from time to time tourists kidnapped in Yemen .... Our first stop - the ruins of the ancient city Barakish. Once through the rich capital of the kingdom on the banks of Wadi Ma'in Farda Jordan caravans of spices. Chetyrnadtsatimetrovye its fortress walls are two and a half thousand years. And again - the city of clay, sand and parched riverbeds. The convoy was going very fast. No stops, speed - under 140. Sometimes the escort cars are not only front but also behind the convoy. It is safer, especially in the mountains. Mareb enjoyed by Yemeni authorities notorious. Since the early 90's are periodically taken hostage by a group of tourists. For release of other local tribes demanded that the government release from prison, relatives or any benefit to their villages. Spaniards and Greeks in Yemen usually not steal. Russian - also, it is believed that for them is still not much to pay. Potential victims - the Europeans and Americans. This is what we in Mareb talk a lot.

At the market, local authorities have allowed us to travel only if accompanied by several armed Kalashnikovs police. At noon on the market Mareb many people with weapons: the buyers and sellers. Yemen - a country with the world's largest number of weapons per capita. According to some estimates, 22 million for 80 million (!) Trunks. That is, for every person, including women and children, nearly four pistols or machine. Authorities would like to somehow reduce the arsenal, to remove anything, but in Mareb, around which live the warring tribes, it does not succeed. Some with him as soon as three or four rounds filled the shop. Even the boys who sell on the market, dream soon grow and how their fathers to walk around the city with real weapons.

Desert Rablat es Sabatier - part of an empty corner. So called territory adjacent to the border with Saudi Arabia. Before her away no more than two hundred kilometers. Prepare for departure, we started before sunrise. Podspuskali wheel drive jeeps - the only way we can drive off-road. The composition of the convoy - four cars. Ahead - a hundred kilometers on the hot sand. The local tribes of foreigners pass through its territory for the money, instead of providing protection.

Shooting in the wilderness - a favorite pastime of the Bedouins. And they shoot so accurately, what to think about the fate of a people they aim at, do not want. How and how much ammunition is spent on their training. Here in the sleeve fall from fifty feet. However, in this part of Yemen's ability to shoot well just be any man.

Having ridden on roads and off-road Yemen several hundred kilometers, we can say that a Kalashnikov rifle in this country - not just weapons. For their men is much greater. So, with what they had never parted. Because for them it is a symbol of masculinity and freedom.
In the plot, it was shown that indeed all the men go there with machine guns. They also talked about the price of weapons. AKM produced in Russia is there the best and worth $ 300 Other - Bulgarian, Chinese, etc. - is cheaper. Automata American, Israeli and other popular models do not use. Even Yemenis themselves saying how much they love to shoot, especially on holidays and all kinds of mass actions. At the same time they themselves believe their country rather quiet in terms of security, but without weapons, however, do not go out of the house. Also, in its way, collectors.



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Старый 22.08.2008, 16:54 Язык оригинала: Русский       #8
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Reminiscent of the story narrated by a friend who works as a programmer and wrote all sorts of programs for the defense .... did some mega program and presented it either general, or colonel .. not what they say ... such a program and raztakaya fairly simple that's why the reliable, their counterparts are not equal, even superior, plus cheaper and stuff like that. The presentation took place somewhere almost in a tank firing range, so that was naturalistic. The program itself was installed on an armored (sorry) laptop. There is a presentation, one crucified about the program, and the general (let's general) said: what if the computer falls into the mud and it will be a company of soldiers? friend: well, okay, he then and shockproof, the program does not hurt, blah blah blah ... but what if there is a fire? but not terrible, not burn, the program will not hurt ... and then the question: what if a direct hit from a tank at close range? one thought, and realizing that the program in general, nobody cares about, sadly stated: "Well, if a direct hit from a tank at close distances, then, perhaps, the program will not work ......!" general left dissatisfied, said, "Poor program!"



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Старый 11.01.2009, 18:39 Язык оригинала: Русский       #10
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Do not miss out if we have a linguistic nuance, which indicates Latin utilitas - "benefit, profit"?
Since profits can be expressed in money, the "recycling" of weapons and it may involve the sale of ...



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