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Старый 05.08.2009, 16:12 Язык оригинала: Русский       #201
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I itself banned.
Called, "highway" ... : D



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Старый 05.08.2009, 16:17 Язык оригинала: Русский       #202
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And for someone to have.
Then let him move to Russia or, at least, in Ukraine - and here already have deposited all the passwords, appearance and name ...
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In protest against buskadorskogo swinishness!
Come to you with such reverence. While you see me, probably. They say that pigs in high esteem in Germany (maybe in the UK?). However, FRY, FRY influenza - fact, not very ...



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Second World British began Sept. 3, 1939, and fought to victory.
Remind me who fought the Red Army in September 39 th and who staged a joint parade in Brest on 22 September?
    
Narochnitskaya: Here, you play now, the doctrine of the German historian Ernst Nolte, who was just and illustrated the so-called debate about the stories in the 70's. Because he presented even the Second World War not as a war in general, for the life and history
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the existence of the peoples of Europe, but primarily as a struggle between two totalitarian ideologies between the two ideologies of the Civil War, he wrote that is the 17 th year. Thus, he justified the idea of Hitler's conquest, the proclamation boundary of the Volga. Incidentally, the same border called to proclaim and establish the Berlin intellectuals in 1914. What is the struggle against Bolshevism was then? Therefore, this treatment, she began to dominate for some time now and over the western stereography, and her happy, and we also picked up the pro-Western liberals, who had somehow dilute and devalue the memory of the war. It's like a battle of two totalitarian predators. But the war, she, by the way, and paid for Soviet imperialism. The war and sacrificial struggle against fascist aggression, rather than repression.

Moderator: Natalia, you know that Stalin and Hitler agreed to divide Poland, that the clean up of the republic when the independent Baltic states into the Soviet Union. So what about predation, and do not have to say that it was a buffer of protection, because no protection was not.

Narochnitskaya: Molotov-Rebentropa no different from the Congress of Vienna, the Berlin Congress of the last century Versailles and Yalta, and Brayton, because there is always some power devil boundaries for others.


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Natalia Narochnitskaya: "complicit in torturing the OUR can not be defeated"

 
Natalia Narochnitskaya. Photo channel "Russia"
On the eve of Victory Day Russia reader has at its disposal ostropolemicheskuyu book about the
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Great Patriotic War "For what and with whom we fought." This work is well-known historian of Russia and Politics Natalia Narochnitskaya only relevant, since it helps to understand the meaning and nature of the modern struggle for Russia.

- Good evening. Natalia, you wrote a formal book to date, but not like the human environment. What inspired you?

- I have dreamed of 10 years to say this and grateful to do so to the anniversary of the victory. Everyone knows that in the past 10 years growing and campaign strategy for distortion, a total perversion of the meaning of the Second World War and, of course, the Great Patriotic War. Now it is, war is declared is a war not for the life of the peoples of Europe, not for the fact that the Frenchman, the Frenchman was left to the Latvians and Estonians did not become a swineherd and maids for the Third Reich, even without a national language. Now it seems as if it were a war for American democracy. You understand that in such a paradigm, in this ideological frame of victory - is not victory but defeat. Victims of our nation is fully depreciated. And the Soviet Union's role as the main fighter against fascism completely leveled, and the strategy is, as I point out in his book, which has a very specific purpose - the so-called condemnation of Stalin's Communist Soviet Union - is committed not because of moral motives. Otherwise they would just be despised and Lenin. But they are grateful to Lenin for the first crush of the great, united and indivisible Russia. They hate Stalin, not for repression, for which we reject and do not want a repetition. They hate him for the restoration of the historic territories of the State Rossiyskogo "from the Finnish chill rocks up flaming Colchis. And 60 years after the victory dreamed to find a reason, a chance mechanism, some ideological reason to declare them illegitimate. And so complicit in this mockery of our victory is impossible. This is done in order to invalidate the signature of the USSR under all international law and territorial system of the late twentieth century. And who is his successor, the recognized world community? Today's Russia!



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"FOR WHAT and with whom we fight" - NEW BOOK NA Narochnitskaya

For what and with whom we fought

On the eve of Victory Day are all unabashed declaration of war if this fault
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the USSR and the victory was not victory but defeat. The war was waged, ostensibly, not for the right to national life, not for the preservation of the peoples in world history, and for American democracy. This thesis is replicated in the Western media. They operate with members of the Council of Europe - this IV Liberal International, samodovlno gives out certificates for civility. Demanding an apology for the "occupation" and erecting monuments SS legions, boldly insulted Russia Baltic countries and Poland, which, if not our victory, in general would have disappeared from the map. But the blame for this ourselves. For the desecration of the Victory and history would never have been started in the West, until it was made in the homeland of the Victory.

Our internal family dispute and the condemnation of real and imaginary sins we made, alas, not a proper Christian origins of our comprehension of ups and downs. Like the biblical Ham we made the Fatherland to the public outrage, for which I now suffer punishment.

That domestic glumiteli pioneered proposition that the Soviet Union - a totalitarian monster even worse than the Nazi Reich. The war was the same between the two predators for world domination, and the Soviet Union, supposedly, almost the first to attack Germany, but Hitler, they say, just ahead of Stalin. Our post-Soviet liberal who "gently embraced by the people he loved and hated his wisdom" (Pushkin), convinced that the bad state there could be no proper and just.

But the memory of the Second World War - a war with aliens who came to conquer and enslave, the debate about how good or bad was the state, generally inappropriate. The trouble happened not with the state, and from the Motherland (it's in the Civil War resolved the dispute about the state).

In the current state of national contempt, we are told that you can hate their homeland and even wish him to defeat, if the state is not constituted as we would like. But is there an ideal state without the imperfections and sins? When appropriate and legitimate to argue about the state, and when the nation must rise above this, to put feud over the ordering of the state and unite to defend the homeland, otherwise nothing will discuss later, there will be no no then?

Why AI Denikin, who fought against the Bolsheviks, Rachmaninov and thousands of others, never sympathized with the revolutionary ideas, driven by the revolution, because of her lost homeland, however, wanted the Red Army?

When asked to Denikin unofficial emissaries from the proposal to bless Vlasov Vlasov army, he angrily exclaimed: "I fought with the Bolsheviks, but never with the Russian people. If I could become a Red Army generals, I would show the Germans! Rachmaninov to exhaustion gave concerts throughout the United States and send money to Stalin.

Saving beloved homeland for future generations for them was higher than the desire to see in his lifetime the collapse of the hated "regime". Love was more hatred, as the Christian commandment requires. They are not equated Russia with the Bolshevik regime ". A Vlasov, and today's supporters seem to believe that Russia is no better than the Bolshevik Russia.


http://www.narochnitskaia.ru/cgi-bin...0r050603003252



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What do you mean theme of social realism?



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Fyodor Tyutchev mnogovazhaemy,

What do you mean theme of social realism?
   
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