How to invest $ 100 000

[Wladzislaw]

I have no idea who this Shadrin.

[SergeiSK]

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on the potential growth of Dali as an example

And you can set an example?
Copyright lithographs by Salvador Dali, bought from you on my mind in 2006, and a half years have brought 400%of income.
Copyright lithography Shemyakin, a series of "Carnival in St.-Petersburg", was brought through the same half year 500%.
In principle, nothing special, in Dali undoubted potential for growth, just once again want to thank you

[artcol]

[SAH]

[artcol]

[Wladzislaw]

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Well, of course. Read, interested in your opinion.

Man somewhat hysterical and obviously uneducated.

1. Where he bought I have no idea. What is it "Benjamin Levy - the owner and president of the World Dalí" do not know. Perhaps he is well vduli rarities

2. Art critic Nail Ibragimov, apparently, just a fool.

Like a fool, and known expert Albert Kostenevich - Doctor of Fine Arts, the chief researcher of the State Hermitage Museum (St. Petersburg) - Here in these words: " As for the sculptures at Versailles is a place where they make sculptures by contemporary artists, in particular, and Dali - I was there. And since they bought the rights, they can repeat the statue and repeat the sculpture ... "


March. I doubt the authenticity of the majority of works. Questions call lithography low quality. Captions is significantly different from autographs Dali, we can see on numerous reproductions of his other works

Signatures Dali very (!) Differ both in time and in different rooms of the same lithography. Rooms on the lithographs, he did not set, numbered Clerk. It should be noted that Dali was very fond of money, and if Chagall produced 50-75 copies + 5 /7 the best, the Dali produced 250 numbered in Arabic, then numbered 250 Roman numerals, two more times in the top 25 instances and two more times on 25 not Sales <!--~ a ~-->. In anyone's hand gets tired "But all this very well for sale! And buy more and thousands of fraudulent lithographs, often not weak money.


4. - And as confirmed the authenticity of paintings? Some documents do you have?

- Yes! Each work is given a certificate, which in one instance ... It is stored in the bank, he - the same value, a certificate - more than half the cost of the work.

The floor price will leave the hysteria of the applicant. For Dali prints no seritfikatov no. It happens that some studios release lithography with certificates, but it's pretty rare. On the sculpture Certificates give the casting studio. I do not know at all whether the sculpture studio gave certificates, but the last few publishers Dali sculpture certificates are. If the document is lost, most likely, a copy thereof, you will not get. Any certificates of galleries, at least for a print, at least for a sculpture - it is rubbish.

5. However, in the "Komsomolskaya Pravda" still flashed the figure: "The total cost of paintings at the time of purchase of a collector more than a million euros. Now, its value increased to two and even three times."

Nonsense - the prices I read.

6. But if we are talking about sculpture or lithograph, the original works of art are respectively the first 350 and 200 copies made of the author's layout and signed by the artist. "

That is, 350 and 200 copies of the originals, or ...?

The reporter did not understand what the lottery thing. Therefore, we should seriously explain.

7. Statement Shadrina that lithography is not fake - did not match reality. Rarely, but counterfeited. Most often it is just a cunning way of deception, forgery and not the real author of lithographs.

8. About the French experiences Dali lithographs for export - it's nonsense Shadrina.

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Photos of work in the article

lithographs

Вложение 894821
Signs it, and behind him hangs the closest, lithographs in 1973 from the series "Stained Glass".

Вложение 894831
In this photo hang lithographs from the same series.

About the ceramics and glass Dali I know little. Speak will not.

sculpture

Вложение 894841
What kind of sculpture do not know.

Вложение 894851
It looks like a sculpture Dedication Newton "1980, was tinged with Swiss ateliers Perseo.
Вложение 894861
It looks like a sculpture "Profile of Time" in 1984, shot with the same studio.

But! Sculptures of different colors. Especially the "Profile of time. On the tree a black patina - it should not be there, but on the dial should be a green patina, which is not.

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Conclusion

With some reservations, we can recognize that lithography is likely authentic.

The pros - they are not particularly expensive, and such original lithographs by Dali exist. The argument "against" - is currently on eBay are sold as genuine lithographs from the suite "Stained Glass" and fake.

Sculpture doubt. The quality of bronze and patina. I enclose photos of originals called sculptures.

Sculptures by Shadrina like fakes.

[artcol]

Сообщение от Wladzislaw

vduli rarities

... For the most artifacts. Sorry.

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4. - And as confirmed the authenticity of paintings? Some documents do you have?

- Yes! Each work is given a certificate, which in one instance ... It is stored in the bank, he - the same value, a certificate - more than half the cost of the work.

The floor price will leave the hysteria of the applicant. By the prints produced no seritfikatov no. It happens that some studios release lithography with certificates, but it's pretty rare. On the sculpture Certificates give the casting studio. I do not know at all whether the sculpture studio gave certificates, but the last few publishers Dali sculpture certificates are. If the document is lost, most likely, a copy thereof, you will not get. Any certificates of galleries, at least for print, at least for a sculpture - it is rubbish.

Could you clarify what exactly rubbish - Certificates of galleries on the circulation of Dali or even certificates for the circulation of Dali.

[Yurko]

[Евгений]

In March 2008, was disclosed to the gang of seven men, engaged in forgery of works of many popular on the global art market artists.
Fraudsters have used two different schemes of development and implementation of forged works of such masters as Pablo Picasso, Marc Chagall and Andy Warhol, which allowed them to sell thousands of counterfeit prints and other works printed graphics in the United States, Canada, Australia, Japan and Europe. Total revenue from illegal activities amounted to over $ 5,000,000.

Some of the established tricksters psevdoshedevrov were sold through services EBay Inc., The world's largest online trading platform, said investigating the case District Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald of Chicago (Patrick Fitzgerald). Other marketed through two art dealers living in the town of Northbrook (Northbrook) of Illinois, told the Chicago prosecutors.

Fraudsters engaged in a fraud actually existing works and creation of "original" works that were performed skillfully imitating the author's handwriting manipulated art style, explained the assistant district attorney of Chicago Nancy Miller (Nancy Miller).

Patrick Fitzgerald asks participants to the art trade to be vigilant: it is likely appearance at the antiques market on other established tricksters "masterpieces".

"I see a similar situation in the market of works of art for 30 years" - says the investigation lawyer and art critic Scott Hodes (Scott Hodes), a Chicago partner at the law firm of Bryan Cave in St. Louis. Noting that reports of fraud of this kind (with a special love of speculators use just by Picasso, Chagall and Warhol) appear regularly in the late 80's. the last century, the lawyer said: "Every time we feel like deja vu."

Hodes, who, in his own words, represents the interests of Conceptual artists Christo and Jean Claude (Christo and Jeanne Claude) and collaborated with the Chicago Institute of Fine Arts (Art Institute of Chicago), explain the widespread forgeries of works by Picasso and Alexander Calder (Alexander Calder ) and other masters of their popularity. "This is the most famous artists of our time, they are already dead, but life they are particularly creative fecundity and the incredible breadth of the manifestations of his genius" - he added.
Some fakes have been created in Spain and Italy. Creator of the other was one of the accused, an artist from New York, Emiel Leon (Leon Amiel Jr.).
Emiel runs on one charge with James Kennedy, an art dealer from Northbrook. As a consequence of the view, he realized the order of 2500 "copyright" with the works of Chagall lithographs and Caldera. Kennedy is accused of selling in various states in the U.S. fake prints, allegedly originating from the rare original limited editions. Damage from the activities of associates amounted to approximately $ 1,000,000.
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How to fool and a renowned expert Albert Kostenevich - Doctor of Arts, the chief researcher of the State Hermitage Museum (St. Petersburg)

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The art Nail Ibragimov, apparently, just a fool.

So why is it rude to? Not solid ..

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Statement Shadrina that lithography is not fake - not true. Rarely, but counterfeited.

Here I agree with you (on the application Shadrina), at the expense of rare lithographs forged with tens of thousands of copies .. on the forum about this many times already written ...
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scandal in Kazan: critics say the exhibition of Salvador Dali fake
Scandal turned into an exhibition of works by Salvador Dali in Kazan. Just two of the Kazan art critic, visited the exhibition, have questioned the authenticity of the exhibits. The first of the deception, said member of the International Fund for Luis Ortega Nelia Ibragimov. - Lithography very bad quality, besides the signature of the artist at all jobs are different - told the Komsomolskaya Pravda art - and they all differ significantly from the autographs of Dali, we can see from the numerous reproductions of his other works.
Confused art critic and that all work created in the last years of his life surrealist.

- But we all know that before his death he had created very little - surprised Nelia Ibragimov. - In addition, poor design of the exhibition, storage of exhibits and the level of protection also suggests that we face not real work. So why then cheat? 'd Call the exhibition "The world of images Dali" and no claims have arisen.
Experts are convinced: in Kazan brought forgery
 The College supported and the only Doctor of Arts in Kazan Guzel Valeeva.

- On the authenticity can not speak, - said Guzel Valeeva. - And sculptures, and lithographs by Dali are mediated by attitude. They are rather inspired by the artist.
Such talks have caught the collector Alexander Shadrin surprise when he was presented a lithograph of "person" as a gift to the museum of Fine Arts. Guest literally attacked the questions about the authenticity of the sculptures and lithographs ... Shadrin and management of the museum were forced to defend himself.

- It's not often arise these doubts, - said the collector. - More precisely, Kazan - the only city where they were raised.
According to a collector, a collection of paintings was bought by Alexander Shadrin five years ago, the European Foundation for World of Dali, who is the owner of all the European museums of the artist, except Spanish. Now a collection Shadrina - the largest private collection of Dali works in the world. For purchase lithographs and sculptures, surrealist, Shadrin had to sell some graphic masterpieces Shemyakin, Chagall, Matisse and Picasso. The total cost at the time of purchase of a collector more than a million euros. The exhibition in Kazan more than 70 works. Most devoted to the sole and divine muse Dali - Gala.
 
Charges the guest was shocked.

- Speaking of forgeries of works, the lithography is not fake, - said Alexander. - Easier to fake picture. A lithography - a colossal work, but its cost is not very large. If a thing is worth several thousand euros it will not forge. It is easier to falsify work that is worth a hundred thousand.
True, the authenticity of paintings guest could except that the words, but to present certificates could not. "

- Of course, I have certificates - surprise replied collector. - But each work is given a certificate in one copy. I keep them in the bank, because the certificate is the same value as the work itself. It costs more than half the cost of the painting.
Director of the Museum of Fine Arts Rosalia Nurgaleeva, meanwhile, had doubts about the competence of an art Neli Ibragimova.

- Those who doubt there? It's Ibragimova Neli. She introduced herself as an art. Art critic - a man who is engaged in research in the field of art. So, I want to tell you that I do not know any of its article ... She did not write any books art criticism. It has not created any articles art criticism. So what can be said? .. These doubts - in a series of "what is not, but could be" ...

A deputy director of the Museum of Fine Arts Olga Lvovna in an interview with Komsomolskaya Pravda said that the arguments of an art based only on her own opinion.

- That all the signatures on each other do not resemble, in terms of forensics, this is what is the evidence of their authenticity - says Olga Lvovna. - Man never signed twice in the same way. But that Dali is not created in the last years of life, it does funny. He worked until the last days. Moreover, few of the artists who worked on the sculptures himself. Above all, the artist made a sketch.
True if the work of Salvador Dali in Kazan, now will seek Rosokhrankultura
 For insulting art Nelia Ibragimov wants to sue.

- I was insulted in public only for the fact that I expressed my opinion - said Nelia Mahmutovna. - But behind me a great experience teaching and experience in organizing exhibitions. I saw the masterpieces and there were fake, I stoned eyes.

True if the work of Salvador Dali in Kazan find out Rosokhrankultura.

But organizers of the exhibition was only a scandal on his hand. Exhibition of works by Spanish surrealist Maitre caused an unprecedented boom ... The number of visitors per month and a half already close to 20 thousand.

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Spanish police have seized dozens of counterfeit works of the famous artist Salvador Dali, which were intended for sale in the southern Spanish town of Estepona.
Writes BBCrussian.com, among 80 paintings were confiscated, and 12 originals, stolen, according to Interpol, from Belgium, France and the USA.
Besides paintings, the police found sculptures, lithographs, etchings, cutlery, decorative textiles, as well as fake certificates of authenticity 20 sculptures attributed to the Spanish artist.
For example, a fake statue of an elephant height of three meters intended for sale for $ 1.5 million
Given the evidence, arrested a French citizen, who brought a fake for sale in Spain, but his name has not yet been disclosed.
The police officers became suspicious because, for sale brought the work, the Frenchman has not taken any safety measures.
Salvador Dali died in 1989, leaving a multimillion state the exact cost is difficult to determine, partly because of the existence of numerous forgeries.

 In 1999, Spanish police found 10,000 fake Dali lithographs in the house of his assistant and former personal secretary.
Note also that Salvador Dali is one of five artists whose works are often kidnapped.
http://ura-inform.com/culture/2009/01/26/dali_fake #

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In 1999, Spanish police found 10,000 fake Dali lithographs in the house of his assistant and former personal secretary.

Shestidesyatichetyrehletny Spanish artist Manuel Pujol Baladas admitted in the pages of the Madrid weekly Cambeys 16 "that forged works of Dali. According Baladasa, he did it by order of former Secretary Dali - Enrique Saba Teri and with the consent of his wife's master - Gala. He said that from 1979 to 1981 carried out 400 fake watercolors, drawings and lithographs, as well as about three hundred paintings in oil. The reason for the implementation of these fakes - however, remarkable, according to Dali himself - was a constant reinforcement of Parkinson's disease, which has long been tormented by the master, because of her he could not work. Gala and Sabater of fakes sold, and the rest saved for the future, in anticipation of the death of the creator.
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The former secretary of the great Salvador Dali, Peter Moore, newly landed in court, he faces an imposing period - about 10 years.

Now Peter Moore is accused of crafts works of his late boss and fraud. Nearly three hundred works of various genres: watercolors, drawings, sculptures - were sold at auction in Paris. The total cost of lots amounted to 4,5 million of this amount, Peter Moore wanted to get 10%, citing the fact that it has a right under the will of the master.
Scandalous is now a collection he had to withdraw from Spain a few years ago. Despite objections by critics, Customs has not accepted for collection of works of high artistic value, because there is no world-famous works. Prior to that, all sold works can be seen in Dali Museum, located in the Catalan city Kadakesh.

Peter Moore - a known personality. In 1999 he was accused of forging works of Dali. By that time, quick-witted secretary managed to slap over 10 thousand impressions with engravings of his boss and literally deluged with their global market. It is known that El Salvador has always signed his work, but 10 thousand counterfeit plates bore the original signature of the artist! As a result found out, unpredictable artist had before his death, to sign more than 300 thousand blank sheets of paper. With this heritage and took the "resourceful" Peter Moore. Then, at the end of the 90th, he managed to sell only 50 thousand of
them, and the remaining pages were so clean. Once one of the former partners informed on Moore to the police, the case received wide publicity. But the rogue does not lose his head. According to him, Daly has never been against counterfeiting and before his death allowed the Secretary to freely duplicate and distribute copies and forgeries of his work.

Peter Moore is now facing the punishment of 12 articles. Prosecutors believed that the former secretary of Dali, he was responsible for relations with foreign artist organizations and individuals, has abused his trust, and after his death, use these links for illegal personal gain. " Nevertheless, the decision of the Spanish authorities for many strange looks, in fact, they allowed Moore and his wife to bring a collection of the country.

It is worth noting that Moore - not the first nor the last in a cohort of thieves who are profiting on behalf of the great surrealist. In the 70th such cases involved a young Spanish artist Manuel Pujol Baladas, which attracted the work of Gala, Dali's faithful companion. For three years Pujol created nearly 400 watercolors, drawings, lithographs, two hundred paintings in oil. Only after the death of Dali, he confessed that multiplied the legacy other. And this year one of the many forgeries used by thieves, umyknuvshie sketch of the prison Rikerz Island. About
or attached fake stapler against the wall instead of the original. But the substitution quickly noticed - very much struck by the difference between the two figures ...

[Евгений]

Spanish police seized (November 2009), several dozen counterfeit works of the famous artist Salvador Dali, which were intended for sale in the southern Spanish town of Estepona.
Writes BBCrussian.com, among 80 paintings were confiscated and 12 originals, stolen, according to Interpol, from Belgium, France and the USA.

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In addition to paintings, the police found sculptures, lithographs, etchings, cutlery, decorative textiles, as well as fake certificates of authenticity 20 sculptures attributed to the Spanish artist.
For example, a fake statue of an elephant height of three meters intended for sale for $ 1.5 million
Given the evidence, arrested a French citizen who brought the forgeries for sale in Spain, but his name has not yet been disclosed.
The police officers became suspicious because, for sale by imported work, the Frenchman has not taken any safety measures.
Salvador Dali died in 1989, leaving a multimillion state the exact cost is difficult to determine, partly because of the existence of numerous forgeries.

 In 1999, Spanish police found 10,000 fake Dali lithographs in the house of his assistant and former personal secretary.
Note also that Salvador Dali is one of five artists whose works are often kidnapped.
http://ura-inform.com/culture/2009/01/26/dali_fake#