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I do not know whether this article has or not, but it caught me just now.

Tairov: Russian art market threaten fake papers Goncharova

Vice-President of the Russian Guild of Appraisers and the gallery director, "Belvedere" Oleg Tairov said in an interview with RIA Novosti, who was behind a series of corruption scandals involving fake works of the most expensive Russian artists, including Natalia Goncharova, the difference between Western and Soviet expert on why the opinion of Russian experts not included in the authentication of paintings in the West. Interviewed by Mary Ganiyants.


- has recently come to a lot of fuss about the works of Russian artists. For example, the story of the New York ABA Gallery Anatolia Bekkerman. He is accused of selling people's deputy of Ukraine Alexander Savchuk 18 paintings at prices above the market (of a total of about 9.6 million dollars), and that four of them (including the work of Shishkin and other Russian artists with expert opinions Russian museum workers ) are fake.

- I can comment on the matter of price: the works of art at all times, prices were negotiable. If the buyer and the seller set the price, then all further claims have no meaning. Complaints about the authenticity of works arise from time to time, and in all such cases require a thorough evaluation by independent experts.


- Well, here is the story of Natalia Goncharova's work: released catalogs "Natalia Goncharova" Anthony Parton (Anthony Parton Goncharova: The Artand Designof Natalia Goncharova) and "Natalia Goncharova: her art between tradition and modernity," Denise Bazetu (Denise Bazetoux Natalia Gontcharova: son oeuvre entre tradition et modernité), in which most of the work, according to Russian experts - a fake. For example, talking about it in the Tretyakov Gallery. What is behind this story?

- Firstly, this story for almost a decade. For example, unknown to her husband's work Goncharova, Mikhail Larionov were represented at the exhibition organized by Alexander Nakov in 1987 in Frankfurt. Part of the work have raised doubts among experts, and after a lengthy trial of the crayons were found to be false. Another scandal - is the closing exhibition of Alexandra Exter in 2009, "Alexandra Exter and her Russian friends" in the city tour, organized by Jean Shovlenom. Then, at the initiative of Nakova about 200 Exter were arrested in March for three days before the exhibition closed. Reason - doubts about the authenticity of the works and property claims. Judgments are not available. Against this background, some 10 years ago in Europe there were forgeries of paintings by Goncharova, confirmed the authenticity of which Anthony Parton, Denise and Jean Bazetu Shovlen.

They were one of those who organized the expertise of Russian art in Europe - an international house of the Russian modernism (International Chamber of Russian Modernism (InCoRM)). The result of their activities have become the very book catalogs devoted Goncharova, where many work - candid fakes. Letters InCoRM of TG with the findings of Russian experts, had no effect: they meet formal replies, the meaning of which boiled down to the fact that Russian experts will them no authority.


- This is a question of trust the opinion of our experts?

- The fact that the technological expertise to carry out for most of her works is impossible, since Goncharova left Russia in 1914 and finally settled in France in 1918, died in 1962. If the picture were written 10-20 years after her death, then, the chemical spectral analysis is useless.

But in the early works of the 1910s and 20s, which are the most valuable, such examination is possible. But much more efficient to conduct a comparative analysis on the example of similar works of which are kept in the Tretyakov Gallery (in 2000 most of the work of the Paris period were exhibited at the personal exhibition of Goncharova and Larionov in TG and transferred to the heirs of property in the gallery). However, the authors refuse to provide picture books for examination in the territory of the Russian Federation.

- How is it that Russian experts are not considered in such matters?

- We can little affect on Western expertise. The only thing you can do is to speak at the annual meeting of the CINOA, the organization uniting the international association of antique and art dealers. The meeting was held in June in St. Petersburg, and it was stated the position of Russian experts, and it was noted that the introduction into circulation of the art market housing counterfeit works of Natalia Goncharova, as one of the most expensive Russian artists (at auction Christie `s" Impressionist and Modern Art "in 2010, her painting" Spanish Flu "in 1916 sold for 6.4 million pounds), will cause great harm to the Russian art market.

- How is the examination of the West?

- Western expertise is based on the provenance (history), and much less attention to technological expertise. The main body of experts in Europe - private, many of whom are employees of major museums (eg, some of the best experts on the old masters are working in a Dutch Rijksmuseum). They also tend to make up the catalogs Raisonné, which are the determining factor for the subsequent examinations. Almost all of them hedge their conclusions from errors: as expertise is expensive (the price can reach 5%of the market price), in the case of an error, the expert (or insurance company) return that amount to the client. It is worth noting that such cases are rare.

There are companies who organize technological expertise, chemistry, X-rays, conducting its own, or negotiating with various research laboratories or institutes. For this painting works well if the spectral analysis shows the work of the Renaissance Naples yellow paint pigments (which was invented in 1762), or on the canvas of the XIX century discovered titanium white pigment (which appeared first in 1912), the need for further investigations disappears.

And finally, in the west are active funds of an artist (as a rule-based heirs), whose task is to track the provenance of work, look for evidence of its creation. But, if you fund said that the real thing, then so be it, no matter what other experts.

- What is the situation radically different from Russia?

- In Russia, there is a big problem with the provenance due to objective historical reasons (wars and revolutions), - sometimes the thing disappeared from view for many decades. This can be in England, up to a month to determine from whom to whom Gainsborough painting passed as bills of sale, inventory of property and inheritance in most cases, in complete safety. The examiner should only raise the documents. In Russia, this will not work. Therefore, we have the least pay attention to the provenance, and a lot more to art history and technology (quality canvas, smear, soil) examination without regard to where the thing went and visited.

Today in Russia there are about two dozen recognized experts, and all they ever worked before, or still continue to work in museums and have vast experience of direct daily contact with the paintings of an artist (in the case of painting). And this tradition of Soviet times, when museum workers, who for 40 years, studied the works of a given period, without any technological expertise, through a comparative analysis could attribute the work. Sometimes it is enough simply to put a picture under ultraviolet light, to shades of stain, to understand, whose work it. But it requires a tremendous experience. Old collector bring the thing in which all the papers in order, and he may refuse to work with it exclusively at the level of intuition.

- How much does a decent examination?

- Now an ordinary examination is worth about 1500 dollars, and the complex, as well as in the West - up to 5%.

- Back to Natalia Goncharova. With this in mind we are already seeing almost fake Goncharov in the markets?

- I think that after the report of the session CINOA (and in that organization includes more than 7000 galleries and dealers) to expert conclusions InCoRM will be treated with caution. Although the ride is not as Goncharov collect not only in Russia but also in the U.S. and Japan.

- This story can affect the position of the experts of the Russian school in the world?

- I do not think so as the leading auction will still consult with our museum, and some have lured them to a permanent job.



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I do not know whether this article has or not, but it caught me just now.

Tairov: Russian art market threaten fake papers Goncharova

Vice-President of the Russian Guild of Appraisers and the gallery director, "Belvedere" Oleg Tairov said in an interview with RIA Novosti, who was behind a series of corruption scandals involving fake works of the most expensive Russian artists, including Natalia Goncharova, the difference between Western and Soviet expert on why the opinion of Russian experts not included in the authentication of paintings in the West. Interviewed by Mary Ganiyants.


- has recently come to a lot of fuss about the works of Russian artists. For example, the story of the New York ABA Gallery Anatolia Bekkerman. He is accused of selling people's deputy of Ukraine Alexander Savchuk 18 paintings at prices above the market (of a total of about 9.6 million dollars), and that four of them (including the work of Shishkin and other Russian artists with expert opinions Russian museum workers ) are fake.

- I can comment on the matter of price: the works of art at all times, prices were negotiable. If the buyer and the seller set the price, then all further claims have no meaning. Complaints about the authenticity of works arise from time to time, and in all such cases require a thorough evaluation by independent experts.


- Well, here is the story of Natalia Goncharova's work: released catalogs "Natalia Goncharova" Anthony Parton (Anthony Parton Goncharova: The Artand Designof Natalia Goncharova) and "Natalia Goncharova: her art between tradition and modernity," Denise Bazetu (Denise Bazetoux Natalia Gontcharova: son oeuvre entre tradition et modernité), in which most of the work, according to Russian experts - a fake. For example, talking about it in the Tretyakov Gallery. What is behind this story?
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- Firstly, this story for almost a decade. For example, unknown to her husband's work Goncharova, Mikhail Larionov were represented at the exhibition organized by Alexander Nakov in 1987 in Frankfurt. Part of the work have raised doubts among experts, and after a lengthy trial of the crayons were found to be false. Another scandal - is the closing exhibition of Alexandra Exter in 2009, "Alexandra Exter and her Russian friends" in the city tour, organized by Jean Shovlenom. Then, at the initiative of Nakova about 200 Exter were arrested in March for three days before the exhibition closed. Reason - doubts about the authenticity of the works and property claims. Judgments are not available. Against this background, some 10 years ago in Europe there were forgeries of paintings by Goncharova, confirmed the authenticity of which Anthony Parton, Denise and Jean Bazetu Shovlen.

They were one of those who organized the expertise of Russian art in Europe - an international house of the Russian modernism (International Chamber of Russian Modernism (InCoRM)). The result of their activities have become the very book catalogs devoted Goncharova, where many work - candid fakes. Letters InCoRM of TG with the findings of Russian experts, had no effect: they meet formal replies, the meaning of which boiled down to the fact that Russian experts will them no authority.


- This is a question of trust the opinion of our experts?

- The fact that the technological expertise to carry out for most of her works is impossible, since Goncharova left Russia in 1914 and finally settled in France in 1918, died in 1962. If the picture were written 10-20 years after her death, then, the chemical spectral analysis is useless.

But in the early works of the 1910s and 20s, which are the most valuable, such examination is possible. But much more efficient to conduct a comparative analysis on the example of similar works of which are kept in the Tretyakov Gallery (in 2000 most of the work of the Paris period were exhibited at the personal exhibition of Goncharova and Larionov in TG and transferred to the heirs of property in the gallery). However, the authors refuse to provide picture books for examination in the territory of the Russian Federation.

- How is it that Russian experts are not considered in such matters?

- We can little affect on Western expertise. The only thing you can do is to speak at the annual meeting of the CINOA, the organization uniting the international association of antique and art dealers. The meeting was held in June in St. Petersburg, and it was stated the position of Russian experts, and it was noted that the introduction into circulation of the art market housing counterfeit works of Natalia Goncharova, as one of the most expensive Russian artists (at auction Christie `s" Impressionist and Modern Art "in 2010, her painting" Spanish Flu "in 1916 sold for 6.4 million pounds), will cause great harm to the Russian art market.

- How is the examination of the West?

- Western expertise is based on the provenance (history), and much less attention to technological expertise. The main body of experts in Europe - private, many of whom are employees of major museums (eg, some of the best experts on the old masters are working in a Dutch Rijksmuseum). They also tend to make up the catalogs Raisonné, which are the determining factor for the subsequent examinations. Almost all of them hedge their conclusions from errors: as expertise is expensive (the price can reach 5%of the market price), in the case of an error, the expert (or insurance company) return that amount to the client. It is worth noting that such cases are rare.

There are companies who organize technological expertise, chemistry, X-rays, conducting its own, or negotiating with various research laboratories or institutes. For this painting works well if the spectral analysis shows the work of the Renaissance Naples yellow paint pigments (which was invented in 1762), or on the canvas of the XIX century discovered titanium white pigment (which appeared first in 1912), the need for further investigations disappears.

And finally, in the west are active funds of an artist (as a rule-based heirs), whose task is to track the provenance of work, look for evidence of its creation. But, if you fund said that the real thing, then so be it, no matter what other experts.

- What is the situation radically different from Russia?

- In Russia, there is a big problem with the provenance due to objective historical reasons (wars and revolutions), - sometimes the thing disappeared from view for many decades. This can be in England, up to a month to determine from whom to whom Gainsborough painting passed as bills of sale, inventory of property and inheritance in most cases, in complete safety. The examiner should only raise the documents. In Russia, this will not work. Therefore, we have the least pay attention to the provenance, and a lot more to art history and technology (quality canvas, smear, soil) examination without regard to where the thing went and visited.

Today in Russia there are about two dozen recognized experts, and all they ever worked before, or still continue to work in museums and have vast experience of direct daily contact with the paintings of an artist (in the case of painting). And this tradition of Soviet times, when museum workers, who for 40 years, studied the works of a given period, without any technological expertise, through a comparative analysis could attribute the work. Sometimes it is enough simply to put a picture under ultraviolet light, to shades of stain, to understand, whose work it. But it requires a tremendous experience. Old collector bring the thing in which all the papers in order, and he may refuse to work with it exclusively at the level of intuition.

- How much does a decent examination?

- Now an ordinary examination is worth about 1500 dollars, and the complex, as well as in the West - up to 5%.

- Returning to Goncharova. With this in mind we are already seeing almost fake Goncharov markets?

- I think that after the report of the session CINOA (and in that organization includes more than 7000 galleries and dealers) to expert conclusions InCoRM will be treated with caution. Although the ride is not as Goncharov collect not only in Russia but also in the U.S. and Japan.

- This story can affect the position of the experts of the Russian school in the world?

- I do not think so as the leading auction will still consult with our museum, and some have lured them to a permanent job.

http://ria.ru/interview/20110812/416200105.html




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Tairov: Russian art market threaten fake papers Goncharova

Vice-President of the Russian Guild of Appraisers and the gallery director, "Belvedere" Oleg Tairov said in an interview with RIA Novosti, who was behind a series of corruption scandals involving fake works of the most expensive Russian artists, including Natalia Goncharova, the difference between Western and Soviet expert on why the opinion of Russian experts not included in the authentication of paintings in the West. Interviewed by Mary Ganiyants.
Here is another famous interview director of the gallery "Belvedere" Oleg Tairov - archived version of the newspaper "Moscow correspondent"
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In the CHA curse encyclopedia fakes Elena Arbuzov

English art critic wants to destroy the Russian antiques market hands Rossvyazokhrankultura

Oleg Tairov, host gallery "Belvedere" - an art dealer with twenty years' standing. He was behind the Russian Antique Salon, and knew of him these details, which we have not even guess. However, according to Oleg, such facts should not be silenced. Especially in light of recent events.

  
 This gives a 20%return per year
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- Why do people Antiques

- Good investment. Most reliable. In the year gives a 15-20%profit. It's better than buying stocks or gold. Or currency.

- A love of art?

- Collectors auctions and shops, God forbid 10%. Others buy things for their liquidity.

is often seen

- Who are the main buyers at the auction?

- Representatives of the middle class. Small and medium businesses.

- The oligarchs do not exist?

- Only those who by force of circumstances linked to Russia and most of the time is here. Peter Aven, for example. We sometimes see it here. And so celestial beings prefer to buy antiques abroad, at the famous Sotheby's auction type, Christie, Bonems in England, at Stockholm or Uppsala.

People overeaten

- Why do not you at home?

- And now the West is not much "fight" for antiques and paintings. That's back when it only became possible, auctions and antique stores caused a stir. Now the people "overeaten." Everything has got what they wanted, and now is taken from a passion for sport - to give back to the business. And yet, if we do our pundits and purchase, mostly abroad. They believe that their homeland will certainly be deceived and vparim any forgery.

Terms of games

- There have been precedents?

- Nobody is immune. Moreover, counterfeiting can vtyuhat and the West. People make mistakes. Besides the fundamental expertise is not cheap, and spend it only works for very expensive - where price is measured six zeros. In general, buying antiques - it's a game, as the stock market. The man puts the money without being absolutely sure to win. You either get a big jackpot or produesh. In the West, it's all they know and accept the rules of the game. Our needs must it be one hundred percent guarantee. They believe that they can provide in the West, and that in his native homeland of their necessarily deceived.

The final disappointment

- Why so gloomy?

- Thanks encyclopedia fakes, which broke into the whirlwind life of an antique country.

- This is a book that presented the opening day of the salon?

- The same. In fact, this well-planned action by the collapse of the national antiques market.

- Who is behind this?

- The main interest belongs to those who publishes an encyclopedia - Gallery "Triumph". Her owners, Vladimir Zakharov Emelyan Roshchin and are in proportion with some English iskusstvovedshey, which pierces the western road works in our market. Authors such as Hearst, Kunz, Ernst stand there astronomically expensive, and nobody takes them longer. But here in Russia, as they say, people just pounce on these artists. But for this they must be completely disappointed in our artists. And how? Of course, convincing that most of the Shishkin with us - it does not Shishkin, and, say, a muddy Pupkin. And so on. Notice they do it on purpose, because the current directory - this fourth edition, updated. The first three went to the cheers of circulation, and will go after it. Paper will endure. These guys are careful and act wisely. Note how they called his opus: "Caution: possible forgery." One word "may" - and they have already guaranteed themselves from the proceedings. We sort of do not you just recommend, or rather, do not recommend buying this here, this and this work, as they may be fakes. It seems to be so innocent, and the reputation of our antique stained, and we lose revenue. Our business is simply worth it.

No one rein

- Why did not rein in this "triumph"? Where to watch Rossvyazokhrankultura?

- Oh, it's just the point, their main partner in this story. Protruded officials want to show himself a kind of fighters for the purity of the antique market. With that deep knowledge in the art of one of them, unfortunately, does not possess. It is an established fact.

- But this directory is formed on the basis of certain facts, is not it?

- I can tell you that his main compiler - one Vladimir Petrov, a former researcher of the Tretyakov Gallery, which was expelled from there for the professional immorality.

- It turns out that these stores - at a loss?

- Exactly.

- Why do you continue to participate in them?

- By virtue of tradition and love of art. In addition, each participant is a good advertising campaign, not cheap, of course. On average, participation in it costs us 20-30 thousand dollars. We have to charge to "production costs".
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По умолчанию Practical application of monographs and Bazetu Parton

The theory of theory and practice practice.
That is the practical application of monographs and Bazetu Parton can be found here:

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Since my dear administration released from the fun, try to answer everything at once.
If someone is interested in the blunders of our experts in publications - please contact LP I will answer all questions.
As for the essence of the topic, for me, as, indeed, for many others , statements such as " have not seen ( or seen a photograph ), in the hands not holding , but I think it's fake ..." only offend the Russian art history.
Believe me, I 'm not trying to justify the publication of French authors , I 'm trying to understand : " Who are the judges ? ", And on what basis the judge. And the wish that the Russian art history came out to the international court , which threatened to participants memorable press conference with dignity. Otherwise - all purely subjective opinions of "experts" that few people are interested.
But apparently not come to court , and all remain at the level of "I ... well ... me and my ... and I 'll give everyone on the forehead ."
What is very sad ...



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Alas, the full council can not be civilized is technically ...
therefore, further stages of the scandal thing, in my opinion, not move forward.



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Consultation?
On the Russian side?
I would like to see who will be involved.



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По умолчанию Fatal Goncharov: great discovery or redistribution of Market

Fatal Goncharov: great discovery or redistribution of the market

MOSCOW, September 7th - RIA Novosti, Maria Ganiyants.

 Catalogues of French experts and Denise Anthony Parton Bazetu of Natalia Goncharova, in which a number of works, namely a few hundred, have raised serious doubts about their authenticity, have led to unintended consequences: the Russian museum, gallery owners and collectors, even a united front, demonstrating the willingness of the private community - antique - to play in the open, if required by the market.

The chronology of the history is simple: first in the West produce catalogs Anthony Parton Goncharova: The Art and Designof Natalia Goncharova and Denise Bazetoux Natalia Gontcharova: sonoeuvre entretradition et modernite. After which representatives of the Tretyakov Gallery, antique dealers and collectors are found in the publications previously unheard of Goncharova - one of the most expensive Russian artists (in 2010, her painting "Spanish Flu" in 1916 was sold for 6.4 million pounds at auction Christie `s).

All questions and complaints of Russian specialists, or the French side responds with silence, or simple answers - real work that can not be questioned.

Shito-hush

It should be understood: the antique open to accusations and trials, it comes in exceptional cases, generally prefer stories with fake hush. Such sensitivity is explained by closeness of the market and participation in it of big business or corporations. Loud trials are possible only when we are talking about organized criminal group, which managed to tie the act, or tampering is detected in a museum, or we are talking about blatant redistribution of the market.

According to experts, the ratio of crafts sold in Europe and Russia about the same, but in Europe is easier to conduct research and to establish provenance, whereas in Russia, due to history to find past work harder, but virtually every product supplied expert advice and specialist research laboratory.

The percentage of fakes, according to experts, is directly dependent on the availability of directory Raisonné, as well as special funds through which legalized the legacy of the artist.
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"For example, Kandinsky, Jawlensky and Soutine and directories are reasonable, and funds, so the number of dubious works sold at auction from 2008 to 2011 is not great. For those artists who do not have catalogs or Raisonné funds, the amount of fraud is much larger. There especially popular with artists podelschikov, for example, Konstantin Korovin, the number of fakes on it is much higher and reaches 80%sold, "- told RIA Novosti director Konstantin Babulin Artinvestment.ru portal.

According to the statistics of dubious products sold "most expensive Russian artists" for the period from 2008 to 2011, represented Artinvestment.ru, out of 27 works by Kazimir Malevich found eight questionable, of 214 works by Wassily Kandinsky only two are suspect, and among the 133 works by Alexis von von Jawlensky no doubt, as among the 35 works of Chaim Soutine.

"Natalya Goncharova, which has no catalog Raisonné, or fund, for the appointed time has sold 299 works, 27 of them are questionable," - said Babulin.

Background

According to Russian experts works by Goncharova, 60%of the works referred to in the disputed directories appeared out of nowhere. And, as suggested by Director of the Tretyakov Gallery, which houses most of the work of the Paris period Goncharova and her early, doemigratsionnye work, Irina Lebedeva, out of these books can cause on the art market of fakes.

But Parton and Bazetu used against collectors and antique dealers of the same strategy - closed. The meaning of their responses (published on InCoRM.org) is as follows: if no one has seen this work before, just because people are modest collectors and their collections prefer not to advertise, and give people the conclusion of known and technological expertise too.

Only then, according to Russian experts, examinations are not seen, and bring at least a few works to the Tretyakov Gallery for the comparative examination, no one wanted.

On the other hand, nobody doubts that the situation should soon be resolved: the owners of the unknown paintings Goncharova already started having problems. For example, an exhibition of works by Natalia Goncharova, which opened in early summer in a modest gallery in a small town in southern Bohemia Ceske Budejovice, police are interested. As the portal Denik.cz, there is reason to doubt the authenticity of the paintings exhibited, but the work was applied to all expert opinion Anthony Parton, Denise and Jean Bazetu Shovlena. Acting Director of the Gallery, Peter Berkovsky told the press that he was confident in the authenticity of the exhibits.

Why Goncharova?

There are several reasons: a large body of work Goncharova was established in Paris, but the more open and auction sales, until recently, was not. Moreover, as noted above, there is no fund Goncharova, no catalog Raisonné.

In the view of one of the biggest collectors of Russian art early twentieth century financier Peter Aven, the emergence of hundreds of new jobs directly related Goncharova, "with their multi-million dollar value on the art market" and "engaged in the production of fakes in France and Switzerland, very specific people."

In fact, if Aven rights, this is a new stage of struggle for prestige, if earlier among the Russian avant-garde leader in the scandals was Malevich and the courts, it appeared to "lack of" avant-garde in the market, it is the turn and the other representatives: Natalia Goncharova, her husband Mikhail Larionov, Alexandra Exter. When each of the paintings worth millions, you can invest in the creation of catalogs, exhibitions (which is now actually happening) to enter the work market turnover.

But what if things authentic, the whole story - the miraculous finding of a forgotten heritage? After all, there were many cases when in need of money left to artists as payment for food and shelter the whole of his collected works, which eventually made them rich new owners.

How do the experts believe?

In fact, the question of expertise - one of the most vexed questions of Russian art market, linked to the fact that the market itself has long been virtually in hiding (because of strict laws of the USSR, when every collector can ask convincingly present collection to the museum, and the imperfection of the post-perestroika legislation), and experts were assigned to the museums.

"Only recently have experts been licensed, certified, regardless of their institutions to which they relate: the conclusion of the expert gives away, and it does not matter to form a museum or a private" - said the head of the auction house "Sovkom" Yuri Tyukhtin who finds this very positive.

Careful attention to Russian expertise is heated primarily by the Russian collectors who work on each piece of paper demand.

"When a buyer from Europe or the U.S. takes on work in the gallery or at auction, it will tend to trust the seller and does not require examination, it is enough provenance. And we have 90%of consumers want to have the expertise and the first question:" What a piece of paper on the job you have? "- said Tyukhtin. except, perhaps, according to participants of the art market is Russian avant-garde, unknown provenance without work, even with the most reliable expertise, credibility will not.

In a situation with Goncharova reverse perspective: quite famous in France, experts confirm the identity of the work, and the Russian refute.

Tyukhtin believes that "the opinion of Western experts on the works of our artists of the 19th century, Shishkin, Levitan - definitely secondary in comparison with Russian experts. Also, as the opinion of our experts on foreign artists of the Russian emigration period (the same Natalie Goncharova) may not be primarily on relative to Western counterparts - it all depends on where the basic unit of work of this period, who described the inheritance after the death of artists, where the materials and patterns can be compared with what? "- commented Tyukhtin.

The dog barks, the caravan moves on

While Tretyakov bombed French publishing house with angry letters, a Russian antique urge the international community for justice work Goncharova began the path of legalization: her works are sold at lesser-known auctions, exhibitions, in general, there is a normal activity for the promotion of the artist.

After all, according to Art.price.com Goncharov won the 124 largest price increase in 2010, while total sales of her works was 9 million euros. Of course, with one hundred millionth of Picasso does not compare, but the scale of Russian art market, which is the whole, as a masterpiece of old masters, is not enough.

According to the head, "Albion Gallery" Alexei Zaitsev, and the legalization of these works by Goncharova, the community of experts will be in a quandary. "We'll have to analyze a huge amount of material, act as an" arbitrator "to participate in court proceedings," - he said, adding that eventually it will impact on the further attribution of works by the artist, since it is not clear what and that will be compared.

An expert on investing in art Yegor Molchanov believes that the situation with a fake Goncharova significant impact on the volume of Russian art market, causing a massive distrust of everything Russian antiques market in general. "Natalia Goncharova has long been an international artist who has bought in Russia and in America, and Europe. Western buyers is difficult to understand all the nuances of different examinations, so it is unacceptable that Western experts were given at the conclusion of works by Russian artists, not having the appropriate research base ", - says Molchanov.

In the end, this whole situation could lead to stagnation in the work of Goncharova and stylistically close to her artists. And to complicate the relationship of market participants: there is confusion and stress associated with the presentation of claims (often multi-step) transactions between the parties.

However, how much vdarit the market of Russian art with questionable story by Natalia Goncharova, largely depends on the position of Russian antiques and museum community.

If Russian experts will carefully monitor the occurrence of the alleged forgeries in auctions and exhibitions to attract attention to them, making a parallel directory Raisonné (Russian collectors is quite able to finance this story), the chance to stabilize the situation, the truth is damage to the reputation of Russian art, is.

Otherwise, a large body of works by Russian artists (thanks to a scheme already worked out) may be threatened "invasion." And yet, this story with an open ending. culture/20110907/431666298.html



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Well, at least a little of specificity :

" According to Russian experts works by Goncharova, 60%of the works referred to in the disputed directories appeared out of nowhere ."

And indeed, for " Russian specialists ," who at first did not take her work , and then destroyed her work, then thought better of it and thinking about, but still felt that Goncharov - the most expensive female artist .

For the " Russian experts " - it's like to talk about , and what came from where . And the fact that a large part of the heritage Goncharova was in France , and was distributed to the right - left , Ms. Tomilina , and that provenance is easier to find in France , than to prove in Russia, nobody cares .


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And it described as Mrs Tomilin large part of the heritage Goncharova distributed to the right - left?
But Bazetu described and described the art , as though she went to Ms. Tomilina the shops and vidila as Alexander Klavdievna payments to grocers and butchers graphics Goncharova , and sometimes painting.

 Yes, some of the forum for this " payment " here alludes .
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And if someone is doing , he probably knows that the last wife, Larionov is not so fond of everything that is connected with its predecessor , which handed out right and left not only the work of Natalia Goncharova
I venture to remind the connoisseur 's biography Larionov, that his own union and Goncharova broke up soon after their move to France.
Marriage is the official Larionov and Goncharova registered only in 1956 and only to the death to become the heirs of each other , let alone in 1962, after the death of Natalia Goncharova , Larionov married Tomilina , which is after the death of the heir to both become Lorionova .
And what kind of " dislike of its predecessor ," you say?
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At expose themselves in ridiculous .




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