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Старый 17.07.2008, 15:49 Язык оригинала: Русский       #1
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По умолчанию Collectibles: work experience art dealer

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Investing in art, it seems, are so complex that a feasible only art historians. Should I start, if he does not understand, and knowledgeable friends do not?

In fact, among collectors and investors are almost no professional art critics, or people with profile education. What's be frank: the cost of entry into the system a serious investment of collecting high today, so that is available only to people related to banking, asset management, and their heirs. In this case management more than art: it is important the ability to absorb educated opinions and make decisions, but also in the subject necessarily have to delve deeply. Collecting never taught. No university, where he teaches how to understand the sixties, "Paris School" or Impressionists, where they teach to bargain and to understand the value of periods. There is hardly any textbooks, which lists the names of "correct" experts, galleries and customs brokers. The road to study the subject of collecting all about the same: reading profile literature, visiting exhibitions, contact with art dealers and the experience of independent purchases ..

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One of the rules: do not unconditionally believe the papers, a variety of expert opinions. In fact, the expertise, there is now a reputation. Legal liability is not an expert, that is, has every right to make mistakes with impunity. Therefore, the market assessment was compromised "paid by" conclusions. How then to cope? There is a narrow circle of experts (specializing in one or two artists), whose opinion is highly regarded in the market. Seasoned collectors rather is one of only their words. And vice versa: known experts whose positive conclusions about the authenticity are the lack of attribution of works. Can you imagine that? And the sort of thing would not doubt, and the conclusion is positive, but signed as "wrong" expert, that sell work with such a paper would be more difficult. Discriminating buyer would expect to catch.

Examination, of course, essential, especially for expensive work, but you have to take responsibility in the selection of the expert (you can ask for assistance, for example, in the profile picture). It should also be borne in mind that for most first names are registered funds, the conclusion of which is final and the only recognized - for example, Chagall Committee, funds Yavlensky, Kandinsky, etc. However, this is not the field for new investors. We also know that one of the most frequently faked directions is the Russian avant-garde of the first third of XX century, especially the revolutionary vanguard (Suprematism, etc.) - things have global significance. Collecting them is already first-class collection, which requires the highest professional competence and flair, so newcomers to the pores on the forefront of the better and not to dream.

Why take the risk, fearing for the authenticity, if you can buy work at prestigious auctions? There's something certainly check all ...

Auction does not guarantee against "falshaka. Such transactions are not uncommon, even if they are not intentionally. Auctions are trying to protect buyers from surprises as they can. And they can? After auctions just rely on the documents, the official expert opinion. On the complexities associated with this, we have just described. Even before the auction conduct the exhibition, where you can come with their expert. But also do not guarantee it. Cases of "punctures". The thing bought in a decent place, brought to Russia and here - the failure of the examination. Severe cases. Return of the auction house will be beset with painful procedures. We'll have to prove that their experts were wrong, and your attribution is true. Moreover, the burden of gathering admissible evidence fake things also have to bear the unfortunate owner.

General advice - not make a purchase in case of doubt. Much better to overpay for the real thing than the "advantageous" to buy a fake. Even too much bought the original ever catch up and overtake its price, becoming even more expensive.
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Walk to museums, long look at the originals of your beloved artist. This will help you understand much. Trust your eyes, taste, and the first impression.

Do not overestimate the value of certificates: not based on persuasive conclusion is confirmed by a self-confidence of the expert, if not its dirtiness.

Go to the vendors themselves to pre-compile them representation. Do not wait, when you bring "is what you love, it is now discovered in the attic.

Do not chase loud names: there are excellent things no one led by the authors.
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                        The history of the collection

The chairman of the Board of Directors of OAO Pharmacy Chain 36.6 "Sergei Krivosheeva and his wife Maria Salina way of relaxation from the daily bustle and whirl of business was the gathering of personal art collection. The most valuable thing my baby collectors do not hide from interested eyes. Today, the conversation will follow this.

- Sergey, when and from whom did the idea to create your own art collection? Why not spend on high-end household items, real estate, now that funds permit?

- The idea to collect this collection appeared 12 years ago. At that time, in our family had such financial opportunity, and especially the craving for luxury, in the banal sense of the word consumer, we have never been. This same period coincides with the beginning of "construction" pharmaceutical company "Time" - Genetrix Pharmacy Chain 36.6. Epoch time was unstable, like at least some vents. Incidentally, the first work in our (my wife, Maria Salina) collections have appeared in the year of opening the first pharmacy network. Yes, and gathering at that time was not so expensive now, art market was not as aggressive as now. Some work we excitedly searched for a month and a half, sometimes even by year hunted for individual copies. Read more: http://www.liveinternet.ru/users/artss/post73101493/
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Старый 17.07.2008, 20:42 Язык оригинала: Русский       #2
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And what kind of work in photography?



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Старый 18.07.2008, 05:35 Язык оригинала: Русский       #3
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fross, is trading in sots.realizmom gallery, interior like. (remember what I'll write.)

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fross, Yes, as you do with the beginning of the collection?. What you bought?



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Старый 20.07.2008, 09:15 Язык оригинала: Русский       #4
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По умолчанию Alexander Feldman .. "Collecting - a special state of mind"

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Alexander B. Feldman
Born - January 6, 1960 in Kharkov
Marital status - married, one son
Education - Kharkiv National University. VNKarazina, specialty of economist.
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"Since childhood desire to collect books and shells. Now I have big collections. When he started collecting swords, noticed that the blades on the handle made of ivory. I began to wonder, since it is enough solid material, and any mistake could cost the masters of several years of work. Then began collecting figurines made of ivory - Okimono. Now my collection - it is not just my hobby, but also the heritage of Ukraine. I hope that they will multiply and show off to people.

Collecting - a special state of mind.
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If this process is seen as a good value for money (which, in principle, correct), but this man is not a real collector. He did not create his collection based on the spiritual promises, for the sake of some things you should be ready to walk anywhere, for years to strive for his dreams, and never rest on our laurels. In a true collector, there is no word "enough". I counted it myself one of those people. "

"I belong to those collectors who, having certain achievements, want to see them more. I am deeply convinced that the collection - a living organism. This, above all, the emotions of the submission of its people, from those admiring glances, trigger assembly. I enjoy what I bring someone joy. "
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Business: Under the supervision of a concern "AVEC" (owner Feldman) is the largest in Ukraine market "Barabashev, Central and horse markets of Kharkiv, a bakery (AO" Caravan "), Bohodukhivskyi tannery, Orilsky sugar factory, is public service, regional newspaper "Time".
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Старый 20.07.2008, 10:26 Язык оригинала: Русский       #5
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As for investing money in the collecting of weapons is highly questionable. I can cite the example of an interesting story.
I have a good friend, a production worker by the way, printed on souvenirs, leather and so on. At the exhibitions in Germany and the U.S. for the third year takes the first place. All in degrees. Sam always entirely in black leather with a bandana on his head, with rings with skulls. A very tight already over forty. So, as you sit in my office in the morning and sipping kofeek, said that puts his clothing collection of German sabers to show someone. Himself sick, and dangerously so many weapons in the house. I asked how much it costs, he told me - "I do not know, he bought ten years ago for $ 500 would have given and for 1500. After he left, I climbed into the Internet and to the surprise I find that one such dagger worth $ 1500-5000. Counted and it turns out that his collection is worth between 15 000 to 25 000 $. I called him and say - do not get excited to give for 1500. The next day he was teasing me that not only in the pictures can be nested, but I find it strange because this stuff should be in bulk. He takes my contacts, calls, rides and disappointed, all that the Internet offers for such substantial money he offered to take the realization of $ 300-500 apiece. Also not bad (in the amount turned out still more than 1500, for which he was ready to give, but after such numbers, such as "beneath one's dignity"). A short time later, to me at the Fair - "Knives" in the CHA, and among all sorts of modern, see as many as three of the stand with the German daggers and daggers, surprised this free offer, this is exactly weapons, ask the price, I also throw up from 1500 to 3000 $ apiece. And how much is actually I already vkurse.



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Konstantin, I agree, but Feldman's amazing the quantity and quality of the specimens from the collection, bravo to say.



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What is behind this great work and money - no doubt, but the realization is not very easy.
In the history of daggers that interesting? What's it look correct: Olden (World War II and earlier), there is a market, and the corresponding prices. And to check everything is not so nice and optimistic.



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Konstantin, Constantine, when I lived in the east, I'm doing professionally several let.Budet time will tell interesting stories ..
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There has recently been selling at SodBi: Dagger of the Great Mogul had gone under the hammer for 3.4 million dollars
Ceremonial dagger, which belonged to Shah Jahan, ruler of the Mughal Empire and the builder of the Taj Mahal, sold at Bonhams auction in London for a record amount - 3.4 million (1.7 million pounds), informs Bloomberg. Pre-auction estimate of rare blade XVII century amounted to 300-500 thousand pounds.
The name of the purchaser of this rare specimen of ceremonial knives (steel blade is decorated with gold lettering, the handle is made of sardonyx) is not disclosed. We only know that the new owner of the dagger of Shah Jahan was able to "play" a lot of representatives of Indian billionaire Vijay Maalliye, the owner of the brewing company United Breweries Holdings.
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Collecting and gathering a great lesson.
Collector acquiring or finding collectible
simply doomed to a constant feeling of happiness and delight.
And the opportunity to give a second life object or painting, restored
or put together the fragmented material is simply an honor
and deserves respect.
Not rewarding aspect of this class is the fate of the collection.
I know several cases where after the departure of the author's lifetime collection
collection itself ceased to exist. Museums are often cumbersome
take on a collection of storage space and lack of funds.
Relatives only interesting that has material value.
And all the archives, filing cabinets are not necessary and disappear.
Nevertheless, cultural values need to collect. At least for the
to some to know that it is cultural values.



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Nicola, I looked at your Vilena Muharkina, and I think that this is a very good artist. I especially like things 70-80 years, the very first site - just wonderful, seeing that she was quite young, I was surprised - she's well tolerate an increase, and this, in my opinion, very good and rare quality.
I wish him - and you, as you take part in it - a big success



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