The icon "Virgin Cathedral Ave"

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Сообщение от Arkady ; 2945861"

administration Hammer is not struggling with this kind of rogues , their thousand times made ​​known who and what sells , the result - crooks from year to year is just getting bigger.

 Hammer arguments are not without Rezonit - we say they are not an expert organization and can not take responsibility for yourself by taking someone's side , you never know who is seen there , we physically are holding the items, they are the seller , but he only photos of their exhibits at the site.
And why should we believe the buyer Vasa, and not the seller Kole ? Or vice versa.
Something like that.

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These "arguments" no better " arguments" roguish Molotkovsky sellers " know do not know , be in charge do not know, came from the population." If administration Hammer was a desire not to get your protsentik sale bullshit naive simpletons , and understand the situation and punish the thieves, they would have listened to the professionals of the same forum Hwee , links to discussion of a particular icon on which they were repeatedly affordances . Certainly it is possible in this case to say that a dozen pro -icons antiques market , with 300 years of total experience , recognized the icon remakes - are wrong , and rogue Kohl (seller icons ) right ... <! - ~ 7 ~ ->

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Сообщение от Arkady

Certainly it is possible in this case to say that a dozen pro -icons antiques market , with 300 years of total experience , recognized the icon remakes - are wrong , and rogue Kohl (seller icons ) right ... <! - ~ 7 ~ ->

Half a dozen pro nicknames , in fact - anonymous , no one knows the hammer and even not want to know who is behind them /sitting behind a computer .
Problem scams and just hitrovydumannyh sellers is facing hammer since the founding of the online auction .
The same problems were faced and iBeem .
There's no getting around it.
And, I think , the seller will always embellish their goods , praise him and evade unpleasant questions about the quality of this product .
T. b . , On the hammer is not so much permanent sellers /buyers, more people there and random note , honest buyers pros do not write random newbie - you're doing? what ten thousand ? your icon 200,000 worth !
Or write ? Huh? <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran

T. b . , On the hammer is not so much permanent sellers /buyers, more people there and random note , honest buyers pros do not write random newbie - you're doing? what ten thousand ? your icon 200,000 worth !
Or write ? Huh? <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

 Such cases can not remember. But back when what is really worth ten thousand , for some reason, sold for 200 - to hammer a dime a dozen . But if you are honest about the pros write a beginner easily send them to the known address . <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran

And, I think, the seller will always embellish their goods, praise him and evade unpleasant questions about the quality of this product.

It's not embellishment, and literally notorious lies and deceit.

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Сообщение от Arkady ; 2945981"

It's not embellishment , and literally notorious lies and deceit.

Hammer will not be able to deal with these impostors by the ban : cheaters will be recorded again and again with other ip addresses , etc.
The only way for potential purchasers - to raise their level of knowledge.
 Or engage the services of professionals that we see in this thread.

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Good excuse to hammer Forum Arts, Antiques from the administration :

" Warranty by Seller ." Choosing this option item , the seller guarantees the authenticity of the goods being placed for sale . If, after the conclusion of the sales transaction between users of the product on the Marketplace will be held expert opinion to assess the authenticity of the goods , which will result in the fact that this product - a fake , the seller guarantees the buyer Item Item refund paid for the goods .

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Why is this "excuse".
That's a good point in the rules, I think.


And anyway, who does not like the situation in the hammer, can not resort to the services of the online auction, no one is navolit, the hand does not drag you there.

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The situation on the hammer is extremely harmful and dangerous for untrained and naive buyers. For me , for example , on the contrary , it is better to go: pro nizhesrednego with even average is " fed " there is a remake , and lost interest in this area , very few competitors ( I notice just a couple of people , no more , and then running " shifts method ", without continuous monitoring ) . <! - ~ 6 ~ ->

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Сообщение от Arkady

The situation in the hammer is extremely harmful and dangerous for untrained and naive buyers.

To the untrained and naive buyers, "the situation is harmful and dangerous" to any site in any segment of the art and antique market:
even in out, though in DPI, at least in phaleras though in numismatics.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran

To the untrained and naive buyers, " the situation is harmful and dangerous " to any site in any segment of the art and antique market: even in the iso, though in DPI , at least in phaleras though in numismatics.

 Not exactly ... <! - ~ 6 ~ -> The forum Hwee ( is both a trading platform ) is safe for beginners . Replica will not miss , and instantly determine the sale will be disrupted ( as in this forum, where there is yours truly) . Therefore, all the crooks ran on platforms such as Hammer, Ibey etc.