Russian art market for contemporary art in terms of marketing

[Artoil-A]

Сообщение от Peter

To promote the need expensive activities to generate demand , since the demand for this " new product" is essentially absent in principle because of its specificity ...
 Further, in today's society a role in the acquisition of works of art at bargain prices is not playing the role of an investment component , which the young " product " is also not ...
So which artist will sell gallery ? Correctly , that whose future ( or existing ) potential associated with the lowest risk . And it is quite well-known artist , and let the margin is small , but a guarantee of return of money spent ( and time) there ...
Gallery in his cage with sufficient " bench " reorients them their clientele , and the artist returns to his studio, to overflowing clogged as properly noticed , piles of unclaimed works ...

Simply was to determine the demand for goods of a certain quality art more 25 years ago . But only a few dozen artists could learn to produce it . Therefore, the art market now has pent-up demand .
  Accordingly illiquid blockages in the workshops of these artists do not. Many of them are organizing cooperatives to sell their paintings, fearing contact with the criminal or incompetent gallery owners . Therefore, the exclusive contracts in top artists are not welcome.
  We must understand that the path to success strictly individual artist and gallery owners I have not seen that show it and not slide into crime , and not every artist will pass this way.
Especially for an artist there are legal overseers - tax that dictate quarterly payments to the budget and funds and thus determine the required level of output.

[anik]

In contrast to the brilliant comment Peter would call an article not popular scientific and pseudo-scientific . Science there as sulfur in the match . Number of English words written in Russian letters , annoying - why is that? For pseudoscientific ? Joseph , you have trouble with the Russian ?

Nevertheless, the overall impression of the film positive . Always interesting to see the personal experience and not verbiage local activists theorists.

I think Peter 's touched a nerve problem by formulating it as a " Plastic " consciousness of modern man , sliding on the surface of the cultural life and lack of time to look inside , it's " insensitivity of the soul" - the same factors that are not conducive to the acquisition of works of art , and it is precisely such a each canvas imprinted on it internal combustion " man the creator " , the food does not allow you to turn mankind into a kind of robot. "

Peter speaks of the works of art, while I think about Joseph izoproduktsii . And it is fundamentally different things.

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Potential buyer confused he does not know what is good and what is bad, what is true and what is false . And until it is restored to the rights of the very concept of art, of any market it can be no question .

[iside]

Сообщение от anik

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In my opinion, this maxim worthy ban.

Dear administration, take action.

[Jasmin]

Сообщение от anik; 2916171"

The potential buyer confused , he does not know what is good and what is bad, what is true and what is false .

Quality " potential buyer " - also food for thought . <! - ~ 7 ~ ->
 "Good" buyer (a priori knowing what is true) does not require mastication , what is good and what is bad .
 Trained, versed in the art of customer always knows what he wants , and it is impossible to confuse .

[Сергей Дородный]

Сообщение от Fed

I have the answer . Truth - talk into reality .
Turns 4th artists were tasked to paint small - party product . Unexpectedly failed .
Surprise was true until the 2nd .
Found 5th , who finally managed to overpower the sample, but requested 2 times more for excessive work .
End of the story : just found a responsible girl with the rudiments thin. skills and , incredibly , but she did.

Conclusions some of the history - herd "artists" that roam the expanses Sovdepiia are often artists only in their brain and documents on education.
What's in their head when they do not want to sell something for 500 , although the debris around 500 , I have long ceased to think .
Maybe when at least one of them will come in time to meet again, I 'll start this process in the context of clever words about " marketing ".

Fed, your " History of 4 artists and the girl " only confirms that it is not necessary to measure the total merochkoy artists and apply " the same methods ... " .
Why can a plumber to come and fix it ( dozhili! ) , and the artist can come and paint ?
Because plumbing job is to do what he has written in the diploma .
And the work of the artist - to think is.
Never hire artists to paint .

[Fed]

You know, the debate about " creators " - about anything , especially in this thread.
Do you think that the four " neosilivshih " yavyat something ? Or the more will decide ?

The bulk of manufactures , as written here , izoproduktsiyu . It would be 20 years out of a garbage just because thrift citizens, or faith in a miracle.

Ie or create something or " paint " is not normally able to . But education documents have .
Not interested , but really and artists push through bribes through objects ?

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от anik; 2916171"

Last twenty years, the ministers of Mammon , various degotnye Gelman and other vacuous groysobakshteyny etched from Russian consciousness the notion of art , giving him shit nipping chelovekosobak .

Potential buyer confused he does not know what is good and what is bad, what is true and what is false .

And as the " buyer" can acquire works " chelovekosobak "?
These rules do not work as a two-dimensional pattern , which can be a story on the wall in the home and often not even substantively physically - it's not even objects, installations , etc. , and shares , happenings , performances, they can be neither bought nor sold and even exist at the end of actions they can only form of documentation and archiving.

[Сергей Дородный]

Сообщение от Jasmin

 Trained, versed in the art of customer always knows what he wants , and it is impossible to confuse .

Jasmin, illustrate your statement amusing case.

One of my good friend brings together a collection of modern painting. I help him in this .
 And so, after a leisurely discussions infrequent meetings ( with photo images) it was decided that he wants to buy from someone " of Vladimir " .
 We went to the gallery ( the name does not say , Do not cry for advertising ) , and began to discuss with gallerist purchase. At that time, the most interesting works of the Vladimir ( in the price range selected ) were 1 and 1 work Kournikova Kokurina work . Well porazglyadyvat from all sides, my companion leaned toward the purchase of Kournikova . Then behold , a long discussion , I decided to go out to buy some water , I thought - let me himself without price dozhmet , knowingly successful businessman . Go back - to meet fellow , pleased with the picture .
Well , I ask, who bought it?
- Berdnikova !

( Vladimir Berdnikov , Honored Artist of Russia , Roslavl ) .

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от anik; 2916171"

groysobakshteyny etched Russian consciousness of the very notion of art

Poor Russian . Please groysbakshteyny solder Russian people , then plunged into the abyss of its revolutions , and now , you bastards , and art came from, etched its very concept of the Russian consciousness.
- Well, where will the farmer to go ? ( a ) >

[Peter]

Сообщение от iside

 author no matter what kept commitment to classical marketing , or do not know or do not attach much importance to what is now " advanced marketing " is called " promotion sots.setyah " , and specialized internet sites and believe me , I know whereof I speak.

ISIDE here prava.Klassichesky marketing in today's conditions does not always work . New times require new methods , globalization, developed internet.Hotelos be found efficiency " knows about ISIDE" and if it applies to the Russian market.