I can not determine the artist

[BAGIRA]

I can not identify the artist. Gravetti? If it is, is there information on this artist?

[Amateur]

Your picture seems to me more like "art for tourists. In this case, very rarely "calculate" the artist. Moreover, he is obviously inexperienced: a horse's head is too small, but the legs are too long. However, the flavor is not bad, the feeling of spring transferred correctly. If it were not for this horse ...

In principle, the signature can be read as "A. Guidotti". Was such an artist Antonio Guidotti, 1881 - 1958. He is in the network. In general, wrote watercolor views of Venice, although he has a landscape remote from the sea areas of Italy, oil. In general, it is also a "tourist" artist, may be a little bigger caliber than the main mass. Signed it is very unstable: where is written out clearly, and where - as a "chicken paw. Initial "A" could be both before and after the name. I could have put samples of his signature (something like a signature is), but I myself doubt that this was it: you have a canvas almost new - no more than 10 - 20 years.

There is one not very clear fact: oil removed from the stretcher. This in itself is not evidence in favor of the value of the painting. And in general, so pictures are sold only at the flea markets in Russia in the West, even at flea markets, not to mention the auctions, I have never seen a canvas sold without a stretcher (even without the frame - and it is very rare).

[BAGIRA]

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The Painting has been in a drawer among other paintings since it was purchased by Walter Meibohm and hasn't seen the light-of-day in all that time-as beautiful as the day it was painted. Walter Meibohm purchased this directly from 'Guido Odierna' (Italian, 1913-1991) who maintained a gallery in Rome, Italy and sold his & other artist's works that he represented there. Walter regularly purchased works from Odierna on his frequent art-buying trips to Europe. There is inventory info written in pencil, in bottom margin area, by Walter Meibohm that does not pertain to the painting itself. This Beautiful Mid Century Original European Oil Painting Has Never Been Framed.

[Игорь Гурьев]

Сообщение от Amateur

There is one not very clear fact: oil removed from the stretcher. This in itself is not evidence in favor of the value of the painting. And in general, so pictures are sold only at the flea markets in Russia in the West, even at flea markets, not to mention the auctions, I have never seen a canvas sold without a stretcher (even without the frame - and it is very rare).

Well, here you are wrong.

About 20 years ago I was at a flea market in Paris, came across half a dozen paintings by Oleg Zinger, taken with stretchers.

Worth - a penny.

But I do not buy it, fool.

And now there are.


And in general, often come across pictures without stretchers.

[Amateur]

Сообщение от Guriev, Igor

About 20 years ago I was at a flea market in Paris, came across half a dozen paintings by Oleg Zinger, taken with stretchers.

Worth - a penny.

Perhaps this explains everything? I was not very clear sense of separation of the canvas. Saving space in storage? For example, although it is difficult to imagine that a person who sells paintings, there is no room to store them. Canvas without a stretcher was not protected from all kinds of pleats, folds, injuring the picture. Spoil it, so to speak, presentation. Only if there is nothing to spare, that is, if cheaper sub-frame picture (according to the seller), then there is some sense not to spare her and save dozens of rubles on a stretcher? So? But then, again from the perspective of the seller

Сообщение от Amateur

This in itself is not evidence in favor of the value of the picture.

But interesting, Igor Guriev, see if you work in Paris, Marc, Matisse, Utrillo, or at least Cortez or Blanchard without stretchers?

[sergejnowo]

Сообщение от Amateur

I was not clear the very meaning of separation of linen

In the market these canvases lay in a pile, as "carpets".
Of interest and view them as looking carpets - leafing through "one of the parties.
When these canvases darkness and the potential price is not high, it is quite convenient thing.
Do not forget that flea markets are not free for sellers.
Typically the seller pays for the running meter on the market.

[Сима]

Amateur, and transportation? Large company such as the canvases were brought from Germany - all presented in the workshop of the artist himself once said: ripped off. The route was in the tube and pulled in Moscow. I think he left stretchers also come in useful.
I also remember the publication of letters Falk from Paris that he took out from Moscow without a canvas stretchers with it and there was concern before the first exhibition.

[Amateur]

Сообщение от sergejnowo

When such canvases darkness and the potential price is not high ...

Yes, probably, that explains it.

Сообщение от BAGIRA

There is inventory info written in pencil, in bottom margin area

And do not give a big shot? There seems to be read by 2004? Maybe this "inventory info" will shed some light?

[BAGIRA]

The largest, which take place on site. Sincerely, Maiga.

[Amateur]

Do you, BAGIRA, at the lower field, in fact, written "Gravetti". And such an artist is, he is mentioned on a couple sites of American galleries, but not the first tier, for example,
http://www.bhnyfineart.com/index.php?section=artists, from which managed to take reproduction. More and reproductions of something not present, the remaining sites old and there is only one mention of the works (2 - 3 times). In fact, he was a nobody: about him, absolutely nothing is known. It is unclear where he was - from Italy or from the United States.

Subjectively, I does not seem , that the signature on the reduced reproduction similar to the one in your picture. But better would be to compare several samples, which, alas, no.