Stillife

[Tana]

Сообщение от sergejnowo

plot, composition, specific letters of the author are personal and understandable.
As a scientist, an agronomist by profession, ask yourself one question. : rolleyes:
If there is already in 16-17 centuries large variety of roses, tulips, daffodils, peonies, etc., varietal diversity in the paintings to be seen. Feeling that each other is redrawn.
Could also be a fashion for 1-2 grades, say tulips, for 100 -150 years.
Yes, and different people /buyers must have different tastes.: Rolleyes:

yourselves "Peony" - "Scientist Agronomist"

sergejnowo here you want to correct, was not in the 16-17 century a wide variety of daffodils, tulips, roses, they began to breed much later.
On your picture clearly shows the 2-roses white and pink, it's not tea roses (tea roses brought from China, when in Europe (British in my opinion were one of the first) began to bring a strange drink tea, it was then noticed and roses so they called their tea (brought to court along with tea, there is a version that leaves roses smelled like fresh tea leaves).

With regard to striped tulip, and why there were so many (so often portrayed), but you put side by side, yellow and red, pink tulip, after pollination, the red will be striped, and after a couple of years, yellow, whereas there was no such breeders as now, but bring a new variety is a couple of years (4-5 if not more) of hard work, and were not so good at this in the Middle Ages, mainly engaged in describing the species discovered, so it is not surprising that there is something new (a butterfly flower), immediately became popular with many artists.

Specify, the oldest Chinese roses, appeared in Europe sometime after 1750
Rose from China (the one that smells wonderful) appeared in Europe in the early 19 th century, they immediately began to grow in the greenhouse and breeding.
Old European roses:
Rosa Galicia, distributed in the southern parts of the Caucasian, very smell, red rose, south of France, Spain, from 19 th century French botanist started her divorce (it was then and appeared diversity).
Sentifoliya rose, pink, with a wonderful smell, all that is known, that this hybrid appeared in the Netherlands about 1600goda, quickly gained popularity and has won more often appeared in works of art 17-18 centuries.
Rosa Alba white rose, it smells good too (love it).

In general, many varieties and hybrids of roses came from the early 19 th century.
Look at pictures of artists age 17-18, which shows there roses? correctly, all alike, there was no other then (I, too, is interested in is typical for that time, for Europe, roses, many varieties have been lost forever, because "out out of fashion ", they ceased to grow)

[SergeiSK]

sergejnowo,
Here's a still life will be in Uppsala 2-5 June. At your like.
The circle of Gaspard Peeter Verbruggen, Holland, 1635-1681, Oil on canvas, 51 x 37 cm. And a very loyal estimate - 730-900 euros.

[Sandro]

Сообщение от Tana

you yourself "Peony" - "Scientific Agronomist"

 
now for the "agriculturists" and "nerds"
This Ambrosius Bosschaert was sold at Koller in September and this classification of all sorts of flowers in a bouquet, as well as butterflies, etc.

[sergejnowo]

Сообщение от Allena

Your inner voice about buying?

bought a but.
The picture is a P /x. With enthusiasm, trying to identify a school or even authorship.
Look for detailed pictures please, can a man have the idea of authorship of work.

[LCR]

I think that your picture is not Dutch and Flemish. Congratulations on your purchase, very nice

[sergejnowo]

Сообщение от LCR

I think that your picture is not Dutch and Flemish

agree.
The Dutch had been in fashion all sorts of living creatures in the still lifes.
In Flemish, it all flies, snails, butterflies less.

[Синица]

Сообщение от Allena

not entirely on your theme ... And here is interesting: the later artists who wrote such still lifes, especially in Russia, ... they put such symbolic concepts in their paintings? I do not think it's a pity! Or is it was something?

Probably not on your subject, remembered still life mentioned recently in another branch Tsvetkova Called "Gifts of the summer", 1987. The author talked about the following: "These vegetables are large, in the solid crust, curves, and smug. Among them, one ( do not know, Prometheus, probably ) carries the torch of knowledge, but they did not notice, and even Flare at They do not "etc. Something about dried fruit on top, too, said.

[sergejnowo]

on a parallel branch of the conversation turned to the association and allegories.
Yesterday showed still-life friend, he's painting zero.
Asked him, what are your type of association?
He says, honestly? I told him, yes.
He told me - these peaches remind me of my wife's buttocks in the shadows!
He liked the still life.: D

[Игорь Гурьев]

Сообщение от LCR

I think that your picture is not Dutch and Flemish. Congratulations on your purchase, very nice

The picture is really very nice.
If and Flemish, is not 18 a century?

It is possible that this is an imitation of the German 18 th century.

But the picture - the charm.

_____

There is also the feeling that the fruits were written earlier than the flowers.

Flowers seem to be generally very late in style - until the early 19 th century could be written - if judged by the reproduction.
Excess luminous, almost holographic volume, "climb" out of the picture (which was not in the 17 th century), exaggerated scale, a certain inconsistency.

Shine its X-ray and ultraviolet light.

[sergejnowo]

Сообщение от Guriev, Igor

It is possible that this is an imitation of the German 18 th century.

Slowly but surely, until I come to the same conclusion. Within 2 weeks I want to visit the exhibition in Schwerin, in the state. museum. They've put the old and still lifes Gollancz Flamantsev. Pak, compared with only reproductions. In the 17 th century as "almost holographic volumetric" did not know how. Even with a magnifying glass, in a good light I saw these little details that, in comparison with 17 age paints too. There villi in young stems of roses in peach leaf worm drinks with little drops of dew, the small twigs are traced in three colors-druh 2.3 shades of each color. Moreover, these twigs 1-2 mm thick. Volumetric achieved multiple splashed various pigments, often at each other, on top of already traced the details.

Сообщение от Guriev, Igor

There is also the feeling that the fruits were written earlier than the flowers.

here in the living order.

Сообщение от Guriev, Igor

exaggerated scale, some inconsistency.

likely fotoobman.
Meryl ruler. Scale with real flowers /fruit /leaves=1:1, as in mathematics

Сообщение от Guriev, Igor

shine its X-ray and ultraviolet light.

will have time to make sure and let you know.

The label I read lot number: "Lot N 156.
It would be nice that if someone is admitted /tethered "style" label to a particular auction.