Examination of Picasso, c /o

[U_Z]

Gentlemen, the Forum was a topic in which someone has posted the standard sizes for the "Russian" and "western" films.
You can ask for a reference to this thread /post.
Thanks in advance.

[Wladzislaw]

Сообщение от U_Z

Lord of the Forum was a topic in which someone put a standard size for the "Russian" and "western" films.
You can ask for a reference to this thread /post.
Thanks in advance.

http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showthread.php?t=22025

[Glasha]

Yes, a good topic.

By the standards of the French sub-frame format is obtained F4 (FIGURE, 33x24)

(Ruler of metal, not tightly pressed, so as not to injure)

[SYnc]

I'll share my experience. At the moment, the only examination that is effective, it is the examination of Maya Picasso.
We have a collage, one of the first works of Picasso in this genre. When they brought it to Christie's in Geneva, we were told that without the expertise it will not take. Then they started navyalivat it's a fake by Picasso. That's it, wrongly, without examination, an expert on Picasso. Personally, we have a guarantee that this script. However, in spite of everything, we immediately slipped numbered on the business cards (!), With the words "we just have a person who can possibly pay dearly for your collage. It collects such work." We tactfully given to understand that we know that we hold in their hands and that our version divorce grandmothers not rolling, and gradually went back card. After that, all the same, we were informed that the examination is quoted from Maya P. We got in touch with her in 2011. We scheduled an appointment in 3 months. Rang on the date the meeting was postponed. Then again and again. In general, for 3 years, we just do not can dock with it: for some reason the meeting is postponed or canceled. Or is it relevant to us, or she's just too old and not very willing to accept work. Or need a VIP-access, recommendation? Hard to say. But we ran into the wall and can not move. Of course, without the expertise we can not sell this work. At least for the amount it actually is.
By the way, someone called. faced with the schemes' exemption values ​​"at Christie's, Sotheby's?

[Glasha]

SYnc, thank you very much . Your experience confirms what I had suspected . And what we see now .
Everything is the same - took to the fund , as it should have sent a request ( with b /w photos, etc. ), but at the first call , seeing no work there said that will have to wait a long time ( three years, but .... ?))

The owner, given the chore confirm and further restoration, does not claim to adequate ( h /m , size ) value and is willing to die for her third - I think it's normal. But offer almost 10 percent , they say , this and that , but the question arises : if pressed in the absence of confirmation , and why buy for the money ?
Abnormal situation with its funds, of course.

[SYnc]

Can be personal response , as assessed in the picture customer?
What could you say about the cost of painting my client ?
In a nutshell, if :
The picture collage Picasso " Violin " , written in 1913 ( creative period " Synthetic Cubism " ) . Oil on canvas , with newspaper inserts coated with lacquer and inlay, carved out of the canvas ( ffs) .
 ( Picasso, one of the first to work with collages . First kind of work he created in 1912, the last in 1914)
 Of sheet 75h40 cm
 The back of the stamp and the private collection of the inscription .
 Translation: For a collection of Hermann, Berlin .
 (Hermann - In the late '30s was the ambassador of the third Reich in Latin America).
 Until 1945 the painting was in the collection of Hermann in Germany, from 1945 to this day, in France, in the private collection of my client.

[Seriy]

But all that is connected with the big money is not easy , and the doors do not open to all. It would be strange if the confirmation Picasso heard easily and quickly.
There is in fact another way - recognition. Get the paper from John Doe's, that is, in his opinion , Picasso with reasons that you yourself have. Unite with galleries , working with Picasso , let expose on shows such as Cologne , Basel. If the work is good , the recognition will come or galleries themselves will acknowledge authorship. But both because of the soft, painfully checkpoints .
It is known that Picasso signed everything that was outside his workshop , including pictures . Unsigned works were owned by the family. Why, then, these works unsigned ?
 I wish you every success , but , IMHO , the difficulty is normal , and the other can not be Picasso , non-attributed to anyone wishing to offer on every second corner in Europe. And I was offered . And Van Gogh bargain .

[goldberg]

Similarly. Geneva does not take, even though the work did not cause doubts , first by the enthusiasm and willingness to arrive at work, then the question , but is there any examination of the House hearing that the examination is not, sour , said they can not take .... tried on other auctions , smaller , the same story of the same name without the expertise of the House is not uniquely prohonzhe , anywhere. Monopoly . And these , in the House , on the defensive , and why it someone else confirm ? They would sell his . So all you can smoke , the boundary of the castle ...

[тандем]

Сообщение от SYnc; 2722581"

In general, for 3 years, we just do not can dock with it: for some reason the meeting is postponed or canceled. Or is it relevant to us, or she's just too old and not very willing to accept work. Or need a VIP-access, recommendation? Hard to say. But we ran into the wall and can not move. Of course, without the expertise we can not sell this work.

 Vidmayer Maya Picasso (Maya Widmaier Picasso) is an expert in determining the authenticity of a work by Picasso, relating to the period when it was in close proximity to it in 1935 ottsa.Rodilas godu.Ofitsialno she was the daughter of Picasso, it was recorded only only her godfather. She lived with her mother. Two days a week Picasso visited them. Playing with her daughter and drawing, portraits of Maya with puppets - known
This pattern period. After she turned 20, they are almost not seen the last years of his life Picasso almost no one spoke, including their children. But by the time the adult Maya was already occupied private zhiznyu.Tak that the period of the artist's work, in which it can act as an expert is very, very small.
Since
picture collage "Violin", written in 1913 (creative period "Synthetic Cubism") when Vidmayer Maya Picasso was not yet born, and then to attribute this picture, she's just not able to. Here there is no malice or "deaf defense ", and have common sense and a clear understanding of its features.

[Glasha]

Сообщение от Seriy; 2724491 "

It would be strange if the confirmation Picasso heard quickly and easily .

Seriy, and no one thinks that quickly and easily - access to at least had this monopoly , directly rather than through a bunch of phones. And the chance to wait for the result .

And in our case also the auctions fall away because of the need of restoration, but which can not be done before the examination ( <! - ~ 1 ~ -> ) .