Photo: Exhibition of nominees "Kandinsky Prize-2008"

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Still, Duchamp actual hudolzhnikom nobody calls

But in fact - he was the first artist-to-date. Before him, as I understand it, there was no one - all worked fine in the genre, the traditional discourse.

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But in fact - he was the first artist-to-date. Before him, as I understand it, there was no one - all worked fine in the genre, the traditional discourse.

Well, yes and no. It is something in itself did not take seriously and not consider their "works" masterpieces - is no coincidence that almost all of them lost.
Dadaists be compared with the Russian Futurists times "Targets" and "Donkey's Tail" - they simply vykabluchivalis for youth.

Metamorphosis with Duchamp occurred just in the 60 years when American artists suddenly announced that he was a genius, etc. - He was the first in amazement for a long time could not come to, and then recovered, bought a whole series of urinals and began to sell them quickly, because before that he lived very poorly.

Generally in the history of art, or rather culture already before this was such extravagant figures that after the product itself and not left, but schitalts artists. For example, there was a group of fans of Greek antiquity in France under the Directory, the chief of them was a certain Maurice, I forgot his name, and then remember or find who strode across Paris in a tunic or a toga (toga though would be a mix of genres) and generally behaved in a very strange.

Even today there are "artists without the heritage" - people strongly express creativity and a very charismatic far no need to go - that was the tail is irresistible - vsme adored him - obviously insanely talented, and at the same time, sterile, ie, if I may say so, people, which is itself the product of their lives.

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If we make the criterion of belonging to contemporary art of his affiliation to the already decorated by someone institution - then turn out that much stays out of this classification. It is often based on the actual fracture reduction and cross-strategies, etc. - That instituiruetsya always difficult and often against the direction!
Or it is something else? Rear, alternative? Certainly in art there are clear criteria for enrollment in this classification.

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If you make the criterion of belonging to contemporary art of his affiliation to the already decorated by someone institution - then turn out that much stays out of this classification. It is often based on the actual fracture reduction and cross-strategies, etc. - That instituiruetsya always difficult and often against the direction!
Or it is something else? Rear, alternative? Certainly in art there are clear criteria for enrollment in this classification.

This is the beginning or even before its start, the Dadaists, all built on the destruction, etc. Now the actual art fully instituirovano? institutionalized? - I was quite confused, but it does not matter, I want to say that in the west, it became quite formal art: Fabre at the Louvre, Koons at Versailles, in art schools no longer taught to paint (unless it's sperm? "- See article on Fabre) , Examples mass.
If it does not spend it poses absolutely position, I think, protest against it would be less.

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This is the beginning or even before its start, the Dadaists, all built on the destruction, etc. Now the actual art fully instituirovano? institutionalized? - I was quite confused, but it does not matter, I want to say that in the west, it became quite formal art: Fabre at the Louvre, Koons at Versailles, in art schools no longer taught to paint (unless it's sperm? "- See article on Fabre) , Examples mass.
If it does not spend it poses absolutely position, I think, to protest against it would be less.

Yes, I agree - the actual fully institutionalized. Especially after seeing the works of Kandinsky Prize Nominees ihnem site. Galloping involution. I did not think so bad end.

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I beg your pardon for so long and very confused post, but ... Yesterday had a chance to visit this wonderful exhibition ... Degree ecstasy is difficult to express, despite the wealth of the Russian language. After a rather long and relatively thoughtful views and tkzhe after it managed to overcome completely physiological retching, there were several "unanswered" questions and thoughts, as well as remnants of his own sense of loss of tolerance.
Of course, at all times there were people other than deviant behavior in different cultures and treated them with varying degrees of tolerance, but promoutirovanie apparent deviations at a level just sad. Interesting time surrounds us. Although, I somehow sadly think about very young visitors to the exhibition - because they fear will be quite seriously believe that the Kandinsky Prize Nominees doing art. Not to mention the fact that many of the exhibits presented simply immoral. Believe me, I am not prude, but some limits, if you want to ethical constraints, must still exist.
As far as I know, in Russia the law "On the restriction on the materials of erotic and pornographic nature" is being created. Of course, we can not responsibly be called, say, a video masterpiece of the group "Blue Noses" pornography. According to the officially accepted definition of porn - a "detailed, naturalistic image, a verbal description or demonstration of sexual intercourse, sexual organs, with a view to sexual arousal. What is presented in CHA is much worse - is stupid, vulgar and totally unattractive. In addition, I think, legally heeled man is able to see this a lot of other reasons for criminal prosecution. Only here do not need this ... Because once the PR people to create this wonderful should not - on this and so quite actively working.
I do not call to ban those and what we see today in the CHA. But just when pornography was not prohibited and it is officially available in specially designated areas, it might be, and such actions should send in the basement rooms and the open spaces of the Internet at the very least do not say that the "purpose" Kandinsky Prize "- development of Russian contemporary art, the identification of new interesting projects and artists identify the main trends in the artistic process, the impact on its cultural and aesthetic content ..."

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Of course, at all times there were people other than deviant behavior in different cultures and treated them with varying degrees of tolerance, but promoutirovanie apparent deviations at a level just sad.

Thank you, nice post from a bystander. I just read through the site.
What else to expect from this type http://www.compromat.ru/main/mix/breus.htm

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I just read through the site.

  That you are very lucky photoreport unimaginably all preukrasil.: D
The output was held miio galleries where the exhibition on the background of most any unsold work - a masterpiece, and to stand with the avant-garde porcelain saw a plate with the inscription, which is quite moogla be used as a model for the prize of the participants: there are only three words "concept" " shit "," sweet. "
But the first word found on the exhibition would not be reached, but the second and third ...

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Interesting that he would have said Vasily, if everyone saw it?

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I think that he, poor man, in his coffin is not just spinning, and Aki spindle ....
Its the same with Malevich coupled to any attempt to drag obscenity.