Старый 13.10.2010, 01:28 Язык оригинала: Русский       #1
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Dear forum members! I want to offer such a game: Anyone puts a thumbnail (the file name - "20 posts") it knows the product (ie it should be known to the author, school, date, technique, size) and put the subtitle QUESTION? At the same time, he can report any product (but reliable) information than the name of the author.

After that, come into play willing to attribute this work. On this he is allotted 20 positions, ie 2 pages. Each post should be preceded by a serial number that none of the participants lost count. Ask leading questions, "the owner" prohibited miniature, and like to engage in dialogue with Attribution. In no event shall not be permitted secret contacts between the "owner" and "experts" (lichku, phone, etc.), everything here is designed for decency forum participants.

In summary: if the 20 posts of "experts" fail to attribute the product, "owner" should give all information known to him (referring to the source). The subsequent discussions (emotions, jokes, etc.) "experts" assigned to 10 posts. These discussions can take part and "owner". If these 10 posts are not filled within 1 day, the game can be resumed the following question following the "owner".

Goal of the game: not all members of this forum have sufficient qualifications for the attribution of real products. But they, nevertheless, it would be interesting to try your hand at this fascinating case. And so, in order not to disturb the hard work of professionals, and not to be "a bull in a china shop")), the chance to feel like Sherlock Holmes to Art, they are given here.

So, all those who wish, I beg to attribute (and remember: you only have 20 posts!):


QUESTION?

x /m, 27.4 cm x 46.2 cm
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In fact, the author of your paintings - an American artist Mardsen Hartley (Mardsen Hartley, 1877 - 1943). The painting was done in 1921 and provisionally called "The fish on the plate."

By the way, almost the same picture with almost the same name is Alexei Dmitrievich Sokolov (1912 - 2004), but it's a little more size (41h58 cm) and was written later - in 1961 (see attachment)

Your puzzle is simple, the search took less than 5 minutes. I do not quite understand the point of suggesting you "game" by looking at this topic by chance. You, please do not be offended, but I think you still no one answered because puzzles of this kind are not very interesting for a "diviner" (Imho). Indeed, in this case, how would you give a test on intelligence, "and the answer-it is already known. Well, guess or not - what will change? Much more interesting, in my opinion, be able to determine the author's picture when he was unknown to the questioner. In this case, the response is good, and often joy to those who ask, and in this regard and appreciation to those who replied - the opportunity to help your neighbor.
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Старый 25.11.2010, 18:40 Язык оригинала: Русский       #3
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I also want to add that with the advent of search engines such as TinEye is generally turns more into a technical problem to find already published.



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with the advent of search engines such as TinEye
What is it?
How does it work?
Tell us.



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Старый 25.11.2010, 21:23 Язык оригинала: Русский       #5
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What is it? How does it work? Tell us.
http://www.tineye.com/
jigsaw puzzle store on your disk, you can experiment for the purity of her little pomuchat, discolor, cut the field from right to left, it will not hurt your search.
then loads it wherever Upload your image
output quickly get results where it came from the original image:



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Старый 25.11.2010, 22:46 Язык оригинала: Русский       #6
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Actually, the author of your paintings - an American artist Mardsen Hartley (Mardsen Hartley, 1877 - 1943). The painting was done in 1921 and provisionally called "The fish on the plate."

By the way, almost the same picture with almost the same name is Alexei Dmitrievich Sokolov (1912 - 2004), but it's a little more size (41h58 cm) and was written later - in 1961 (see attachment)

Your puzzle is simple, the search took less than 5 minutes. I do not quite understand the point of suggesting you "game" by looking at this topic by chance. You, please do not be offended, but I think you still no one answered because puzzles of this kind are not very interesting for a "diviner" (Imho). Indeed, in this case, how would you give a test on intelligence, "and the answer-it is already known. Well, guess or not - what will change? Much more interesting, in my opinion, be able to determine the author's picture when he was unknown to the questioner. In this case, the response is good, and often joy to those who ask, and in this regard and appreciation to those who replied - the opportunity to help another
Amateur, and here you were on top! In fact, I have long realized the naivete of people trying to do me "game." I initially thought would be interested in some kind of exchange of views, gradually come closer to the truth. What kind of art criticism of the sea battle, when each new guess or assumption reduces the chances of the product to remain unsolved.

I also think that such discussion would have been interesting to read in hindsight, to see what assumptions were approaching the riddle, and which, conversely, pulling to one side, and at the same time reveal interesting parallels with similar products in the world of art. However, when I put myself in the place of those who saw the forum topic, I realized that I myself would hardly interested in it. Largely because, as a ridiculous attempt to attribute a work whose authorship is already known to the questioner. It turns out a labored performance, is not it?

All this I learned too late when deleting the topic was no longer possible. But in any case, I thank you for your attention and, of course, because you so easily gave the correct answer. A Hartley, in my opinion, a great artist! Will only be accurate: he did not Mardsen, and Marsden.

P.S. Thank you for the beautiful fish Sokolov. By the way, I think it would be interesting to open a theme Still life with fish, they are usually very expressive!



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jigsaw puzzle store on your disk, you can experiment for the purity of her little pomuchat, discolor, cut the field from right to left, it will not hurt your search.
then loads it wherever Upload your image
output quickly get results where it came from the original image:
Alas, if everything was so beautiful ... But tineye not always work as it advertised. He did not analyze the images themselves (this would be too long), but only their metadata. Well, for the mysteries of the above kind it is probably amiss.

However tineye, unfortunately, completely powerless to the vast majority of issues on the attribution, rising in this forum. Here's an example: tineye does not result in the case discussed in http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showthread.php?t=95631, though the image of the engraving on the network there.

Fragments of it and did not take. I was disappointed in him. In this case, I did not use tineye, but in a simple stuffed into Google first Fish plate oil canvas, has received a lot of results, was too lazy to look. The second time, so filled: Fish "on plate" oil canvas - and voila! - On the second page of pictures - this is the most! The rest - a matter of technology.

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will only be accurate: he did not Mardsen, and Marsden.
Here you are right, but until your post about him I do not know, but the network is very much where his name is written as Mardsen. All fallible.




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Alas, if everything was so beautiful ... But tineye not always work as it advertised. He did not analyze the images themselves (this would be too long), but only their metadata. Well, for the mysteries of the above kind it is probably amiss.
Yes, of course, he examines not the image itself, so that serious problems will not do ... But that's for just this type - there is a picture I can not remember where it came from - it just is very suitable.
Here I am now pomuchal original image to about this form, cut off all the edges, distorted colors, kept in terrible quality - the original is still found if anyone wants to check can play with. The main thing that it worked with this picture, but not draw it again, even if it is very similar.
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Старый 26.11.2010, 20:14 Язык оригинала: Русский       #9
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P.S. Thank you for the beautiful fish Sokolov. By the way, I think it would be interesting to open a theme Still Life with Fish, they are usually very expressive!
IV, we already had a wonderful "Fish Day" and specifically the section of riddles:

http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showthread.php?t=24255

(Yes, too, like fish in general, and herring in the still lifes especially )



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