Fakes ... Fakes ...

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[OlegTsi]

Well, today were talking about this auction.

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At the auction, Concept Art Gallery exhibits works by Natalia Goncharova.

[OlegTsi]

Even with Provenance.

Artist: Goncharova, Natalia Sergeevna (Russian /French 1881-1962)
Title: Cotè#3
Date: n.d.
Medium: oil on canvas
Dimensions: 7.5 x 9.5 inches
Description: a setting sun in the sea
Signature: signed in pencil N. Goncharova lower right
Provenance: Darthea Speyer, Paris
Frame Type: silver leaf wood
Frame Size: 8 x 10 inhces

Letter N. the signature is written as if not the first attempt, as amended ...

signed in pencil N. Goncharova lower right - the signature on oil ... yes pencil ...
Judge for yourself what it is and for what ...
Assessment of 1000-2000 dollars. Start 450.

[OlegTsi]

Today's picture with Christie's likely there is a link with another picture ...

(http://www.christies.com/LotFinder/l...29813aae1514т)

In November 2009 at Sotheby's in NY went auctions family collection Schreiber, which was exhibited historical work of David Burliuk Siberian period from the date of 1920. She sold for 15,000 dollars.

Electronic and printed catalogs are available in advance and therefore they have seen many, including those who planned to forge a compilation in the future. The near future ... (photo 1)

Ahead of everyone and everything 24 October 2009 in auction Kaminski appears and sells for 5500 Image Burliuk, compiled with nearly identical houses with pictures of the Siberian period, but dates back to 1922 - the year when Burliuk arrived in the United States. (photo 2)

In June 2010 auction Gene Shapiro put it on the resale of the original pictures from the call. Schreiber for a price higher (18-22 thousand), but she could not find a buyer. It was a complete provenance and history to the picture. All as expected.

This painting is a rare early work from the period in which Burliuk traveled from the western parts of Russia to Japan and eventually the United States, via Siberia and the Urals (1918-1922).

Today, Christie's, bidding Impressionists, which must go through a few days, put the same picture with the auction Kaminski estimeytom 4000-6000 dollars.

Compare, ladies and gentlemen, make your conclusions.
Again and again Burlyuk Christie ...

[Маруся]

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[OlegTsi]

You've come to Sovkom? Informed them of his suspicions?
I would like to know the results. [/QUOTE]

Dear Marusya. And do a good deed - you up there close to them are, moreover, had planned for them to run for sale. Let them know this information, agreed on a forum, all chewed over, and the fact that the person that counterfeits of American Auction are the same cliches, like the picture in Sovkome. She and a stamp does not look like the original, but with a stamp - even more so. You will be grateful and will save the potential buyer from losing money ...

If the leadership Sovkoma take into account this information, and will remove the materials doubtful - it would mean that Sovkom not interested in undermining its reputation. Well, if you ignore this, it would mean a completely different ...
I, personally, think that the administration Sovkoma reads this forum. Let's see, that happens.

Oh, and inform them about the picture Rylova ... And we are all you'll also appreciate.
Thank you.

[dedulya37]

[Маруся]

Granddaddy, thanks, of course for care.

[SergeiSK]

- How common is fraud in the field of antiques?
- A well-known collector and patron, Ivan Ivanovich Tolstoy said that he who deals in antiquities, surrounded by deception. Let us be clear this notion. Under the Penal Code, fraud involves a criminal intent. If the intent is not proved, the fraud and de jure is not. Fraud happens several kinds: intentional (it will be discussed later) and imitation, a copy (when the object is produced by copying the old designs, but are not intended to deceive the buyer). For example, to date, Italian, Greek masters in limited quantities to produce excellent copies of antique jewelry. In the first stage, they are sold as a replica (modern copy) antique items. BC, ie archaeological material. Catch the difference in price? This is where the intent.
- How did the buyer not to fall for such a forgery?
- And many novice collectors and sometimes even prefer to self-deception. and bought them for pennies. While Hugo acquired these works of art for tens of thousands of francs, which is ironic on the part of colleagues. But investing in such a way - the madness. Here is another example. turned to me one dealer with a request to pick up some items for the customer: the prestigious cigarette, something of Faberge and now Glushchenko. .
- But the price may also committed fraud?
- If what we have said, may be called a trademark of fraud, now let's talk about price. It thrives in countries where the antique market just started to develop, Russia and Ukraine also applied to them. The reason - again in the low competence of buyers. They often charge the dealer to buy for them or not an item on the world famous antiquities auctions, promising him a 5-10%commission. As a result, the purchase is carried out at an inflated price, the partners divide the commission, and other dealers are beginning to focus on this price. Thus, our market has become a financial pyramid-type real estate market. Here is yet another example of frank amateurism. In my cabin was a good selection of works Glushchenko - about 10 paintings. Prices few years ago, they were more or less adequate - $ 700-800 for work. One customer saw another cabin of the artist at $ 3-4 thousand, bought me everything and the next day (!) Offered to put them away from me for a similar price, but I refused. That's how a person tries to earn, not attaching the slightest effort. If people are unaware of antiquities, they should not try to play on prices.
- Well, at least a fake - is outright fraud?
- Here, too, is not so sure. For example, in the Roman Empire, in the I. BC, has become fashionable Greek archaic art. And there have been many imitation products. But to equate the price sense by no means impossible. And the objects of the first Empire era (the era of Napoleon I) are much more expensive than works of art mid XIX century. - Second Empire (Napoleon period III). So forgery forgery strife. In Ukraine, because, as we mentioned in the previous article, special attention is given paintings of Ukrainian artist end of the last century, quite shamelessly imitated work Glushchenko, Szyszko and others. And sometimes a student of the students of the great academics offer their own works.
- Does the sort of guarantee certificate?
- Unfortunately, there are many cases when the same work different museums were given absolutely opposite conclusions - one by a certificate of authenticity, the other gave a verdict - a fake. So it was with antique coins: Berlin Museum unequivocally declared it a hoax and Munich issued a certificate of authenticity. And turned a vicious circle.
This activity is not licensed and are taken to issue certificates of all the critics, though, if a person is competent, for example, in the art of Baroque, as it can be an expert in determining the authenticity of ancient coins? In the West, museums generally forbidden to give similar conclusions. If customers and turn to someone for advice, only to the collector, who devoted his life to her beloved.
- So how do you protect yourself from fakes?
- Just the knowledge that you gain. Of course, at first it is problematic, but through it all go. You can consult a friend of the antiquary, but a full guarantee it will not. You can insure, and deal, but to prove that the higher copy of the famous master paintings is not worth the money paid, it is technically extremely difficult. Anyone who is prepared to invest in antiques, you should be prepared to survive a period of trial and error before he becomes competent.