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Старый 19.10.2012, 10:19 Язык оригинала: Русский       #221
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is actually failing elections took you four days ago .
Oh, You mean these ... I had forgotten about them as , I think, and all those who remember.
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Overseas wasteland can watch different channels.
COP was interesting to play in their choices.
Do not quite understand these phrases , but CC is its elections.



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Старый 19.10.2012, 10:33 Язык оригинала: Русский       #222
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Actually is failing elections were you 4 days ago .
And what could they be? Obviously, people did not go to the elections because the opposition is not bad, but because it makes no sense. Turnout 12.7 %this diagnosis does the opposition? No power is a diagnosis . All realized that through the mechanism of elections, the situation does not change and it is very bad. Any minimal deterioration in payments to state and hello , immediately have all the charm of outdoor activity, and not intellectuals. That's the trouble .

And the elections to the Constitutional Court , which to many seem like toys , in fact this may be an alternative in the future. Here, for example there will be elections in any city and in parallel with the traditional with urns and Churov, will be like that. And suddenly find that 80 %of residents over the Internet do not vote because he believes Churov. And that would be?
Think garbage?
But critics of the fountain on partisan government spin doctors of different ranks, so do not think. Apparent attempt to disrupt the elections - and then all of a sudden if they are toys ?



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Старый 19.10.2012, 10:42 Язык оригинала: Русский       #223
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But on the fountain criticism partisan government spin doctors of different ranks, so do not think. Apparent attempt to disrupt the elections - and then all of a sudden if they are toys ?
Successful , in my view , a metaphor led Ivan Starikov: " When tiny ( in comparison with the body) pebble - grain of sand out of the kidney , the person in pain from renal colic climbs a wall. So the power only to the first serious case of opposition climbed the wall. Tolley else will ! "



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Старый 19.10.2012, 13:33 Язык оригинала: Русский       #224
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And what could they be? Obviously, people did not go to the elections because the opposition is not bad, but because it makes no sense. 7-12%turnout is unless diagnosis opposition?
A Chirikova that prevented more than 18%gain? With 3,000 observers, total PR and sort of interested residents.
Of course it is diagnosed the opposition. Given that only 22%want to see the same people on the ground (ie, 78-like as not), for this opposition vote not go, but do not vote for come-78%, and to 82%.

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that the COP is its elections.
Yes, on the moon. While it may catch up with real people, one wants to have a trusted the masses, there is:
"" Piramidostroitel "belolentochnikov ready to beat on their home turf

Elections to the Board for Coordination of opposition and democracy - is in danger! Their insidious attacks, they say, following Twitter, inflicted on them, the General Prosecutor's Office and founder of the MMM pyramid Sergei Mavrodi.

I do not know, accidentally or not, strikes coincided. On the one hand prosecutors announced that opened a criminal case against the organizers of the elections to the Constitutional Court on the application of 64 citizens who have listed the required fee to participate in the election as a candidate of the opposition in the Constitutional Court, and then were removed from the list of candidates by the organizing committee, and did not return them to this day their money. Despite the fact that the leaders belolentochnikov previously promised to return the money.

The beauty of the situation is that these 64 candidates come to vote at the direction of Sergei Mavrodi. And they will be detected in the secretariat, and then decided that the followers of the MMM and the opposition is not the way. Although they used to say that they are willing to accept all under his wing. But this is not interesting, the belolentochnikov this is not the first time.

Rather, election officials were afraid that MMMschiki simply asking "creatives" and the number and activity, as a result of the protest leaders will not those people who spoke at meetings. Moreover, that Mavrodi even blocked his pyramid participants access to their private offices on the site MMM until they confirm that the registered voters of the COP. With this, by the way, and was associated significant increase in the number of potential voters
this body opposition leaders who initially "swamp" happy as children.

- Look, - they said - we have more than 80 thousand. Now, more than 90 thousand. Hoo, we already have more than 100,000.

But Sergei Panteleevich at this time softly rubbing his hands with delight. When opposition came around, it was too late. Now they say that the number of voters in MMM reaches about 10-15 thousand people. Mavrodi claims that their came running after another 25-30 thousand, and even more. And it seems that Panteleevich blizhk to the truth. And Mavrodi said that the list of candidates has enough send them Kazachkov and voting days he will give the team for whom to vote. 40 or 50,000 mavrodievtsev of 140,000 registered voters - is a force that can lead to victory and Mavrodi be headed nesistemschikov his people. "

PS Well at least Ryzhkov rejected by the COP and the Duma was elected Barnaul (Narrated place someone in the party), and remained an independent politician. Won a legitimate authority with "illegitimate" conditions.




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Старый 19.10.2012, 13:38 Язык оригинала: Русский       #225
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A Chirikova that prevented more than 18 %gain ? With 3,000 observers , total PR and sort of interested residents.
Of course it is diagnosed the opposition. Given that only 22%want to see the same people on the ground (ie, 78 - like as not) , for this opposition vote not go, but do not vote for come -78 %, and to 82 %.
Yes, you know something about the election in Khimki ?



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Старый 19.10.2012, 14:03 Язык оригинала: Русский       #226
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Eat more newspaper "Tomorrow", and advise her to read .
I have enough of its editor , the opinion which I know almost all issues. He hews his idea of empire . How would it not apply ( in the Russian context ), he co- comrades vdalblivanie is clearly possible, as well as other issues. He sees the solution to the problems in one, some one- another , but it is audible, and his ideas are understood, supported by a large number of people.
If you brought it to compare with the figures of the COP, a comparison of the agitation . activities and its intelligibility and the people there - not even require criticism. While some people involved in the COP, I like. As humans, and useful talkers , but real politics.



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Старый 19.10.2012, 14:19 Язык оригинала: Русский       #227
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but then (Prokhanov) heard, and his ideas are clear
And where you heard it?



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Старый 19.10.2012, 16:11 Язык оригинала: Русский       #228
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A simple way for Russians http://echo.msk.ru/guests/12791/



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Старый 19.10.2012, 16:37 Язык оригинала: Русский       #229
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The only place where Prokhanov may run into a normal person. Who is listening? I do not know . As you can hear the exact same boring record (and even that got stuck ). The fact that he 's probably playing on TV , I am personally not aware of , because on TV for a long time do not watch the main channels , and on 2x2 and other Plano Animal it is not and will not.



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Старый 19.10.2012, 16:58 Язык оригинала: Русский       #230
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Because TV menu more diverse , there are 82 %who do not vote the way you like it.
Only on Ekho Moskvy Prokhanov weekly can listen 9 million .
In Moscow , one in seven .

PSGlavnaya idea posts - he holds real work: Audience 2 radio stations , TV transmission and permanent periodic debates, newspaper 100,000 copies. , Novels also somewhere near, in the organizations profiled .
Carries easily understandable , acceptable masses meaning , developing it in the process: from where now and where we are going.
It's a job. According to the influence and power, and the voter.
But the work of the "conspirators" COP in vain attempts to reproduce a parallel Petrograd Soviet of 1917, with no real promotion , based on the ideas you need a mass -just - so- favorite artcol- cargo cult .




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