Sensation? Is Mashkov's painting bought for $ 3.7 million fake?

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Сообщение от OlegTsi

That's when there will be any, will be the theme of another.
Any of the esteemed opponents will result in real evidence.

Again. This topic has been opened to for today's opponent could easily bring their evidence in favor of his opinion. That we did not wait. This topic might not start if the opponent has used my proposal in the topic of Vekselberg cease to bear their baseless accusations. But he rejected this proposal.

 I would advise you to visit scientific conferences, held annually on the basis of GTG and there raise temu.Vot there will be a quorum of distinguished experts, and the forums are only amateurs and connoisseurs, but not EKSPERTY.Voobsche a society closed to many experts and the need to earn respect, that would be talking to you and most importantly to understand what they say.

[Konstantin]

Mr y

Probably the owner of the coated relevant documents with the experts findings and feels prispokoyno

OlegTsi

You are 100%right. It really is true.

If true, then why not really lay out here the results of examinations? Immediately, many questions would be withdrawn.

[OlegTsi]

Сообщение от Konstantin

why not really lay out here the results of examinations?

Dear Konstantin, I think , that this will not happen for many reasons and you, and many understand it. This will not stop.

Following the example of speech of some members of the forum in this discussion, it may even harm.

 

Сообщение от Maroussia

For example, I would never going to scan their catalogs of exhibitions" The Jack of Diamonds ", because in addition to the foregoing, it can just hurt them. And I hope that you are not condemned me.

Сообщение от Maroussia

this information available to different people ... and for different purposes, if the information is freely available.

Digression.
Here's an example related to medicine in the former Soviet Union.
Technical equipment and opportunities for the majority of hospitals were very limited. Laboratory capabilities, too. In difficult cases, with patients going konsillium - were present, professors, associate professors, residents, interns, laboratory technicians, students, and. etc. The right to speak had everything. Taken of all valid arguments, assumptions, data of objective studies, history of disease, heredity, and. etc. All of that, it was not in'll get - immediately discarded and find other ways to establish a correct diagnosis. In the complete absence of highly technical methods of research, very often, thanks to the development of clinical thinking of medical staff, installed the correct diagnosis.

Our forum - this is our art konsillium. On it are all equal - and all vyskazyvayutsya. Arguments - accepted, erroneous versions are discarded. Thus developed "clinical" way of thinking of this forum, the greater the forum. And for the development of any theme should be even an element of some intrigue, well, as in detective stories by Agatha Christie ...

[Игорь Гурьев]

Сообщение от Mr-y

but Igor Guriev, or such as he can only spoil the mood of the owner.

1) Are you sure that the owner read this topic?

2) such as Igor Guriev, not so much.

3) If the owner has found a photo from the archive Mashkova, he is nothing to spoil the mood.
If not found - his case.

If the photo is found and it really Mashkov, this is for me to be a small opening: and so, it turns out, could write.

And while the photo is not submitted - do not believe that this Mashkov.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

I remembered the discussion here
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(x /m, 137.5 x 100.5, at the top left of the signature Ilya Mashkov) seeing now, "gloxinia" Konchalovsky
timing of (1911, c /m, 143 x 121, right above the signature P. Kontchalovsky).

[Игорь Гурьев]

This thing called "Gladiolus and gloxinia" from the collection of Chudnovsky, I think.

And I always thought that it was in 1912 was written, but could be wrong.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Igor Guryev ; 1806983"

..." Gladioli and gloxinia " ...
... from the collection of Chudnovsky ...
... In 1912 ...
... but could be wrong .

Yes you can, but the errors are not scary :
1. This thing is really called for some time in the catalogs of RM " Gladiolus and gloxinia ," but now she is returned to the author's name (on the back is a sticker of the Society of Artists " Jack of Diamonds, " with the name of the product );
2. In the timing thing came in 1969 and was purchased from CB Okuneva ;
3. At the very top right of the picture after the signature of the author is given 1911.
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[Игорь Гурьев]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzran ; 1807133 "

1. This thing is really called for some time in the catalogs of RM " Gladiolus and gloxinia ," but now she is returned to the author's name (on the back is a sticker of the Society of Artists " Jack of Diamonds, " with the name of work )

This is where you should not go in the wake of the labels.
On the canvas depicts gladioli and gloxinia, and so he should be called .

And if the label was written: "N- rk gloxinia be with . " Then that , too, have to go back to the inscription at nakleechnoy katalogizatsii7

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Igor Guryev ; 1807663"

This is where you should not go in the wake of the labels .

That's for you to contact the Russian Museum , to Ms. Petrova.

Сообщение от Igor Guryev ; 1807663"

On the canvas depicts gladioli and gloxinia, and so he should be called .

The label nzvanie copyright . In the same price and is registered , by the way , 300 rubles. >