So does the modern artist to be able to draw?

[Семен Семенович]

Dear forum users!
Often, in those or other topics of this forum there are questions that today is interesting in the art world, but that is no longer - is outdated, that the true art for some, not interesting for others. How many people - so much and opinions. And opinions are based on something personal .... So, in connection with atualnostyu issue of contemporary art (ie true) raises another question - so should the artist concerned with contemporary trends to be able to draw?

[kozhinart]

I think that under the ability to draw too different meanings are embedded, as well as for creativity, novelty in art and stuff ... Pomoymu response in human psiholologii lies in the motivation ... How otrededelit talented man or not, the criterion of giftedness is very relative ...

[dedulya37]

Сообщение от Semen Semenovich

So does the modern artist to be able to draw?

I think that modern man to write pen must at least know the alphabet. Here, I think the analogy is the same.

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Сообщение от dedulya37

I think that modern man to write pen must at least know the alphabet.

SOLAS.
The question is. Where is something to teach the alphabet?
Here Matyushin himself in 7 years I learned to read and write. And just read the "Ice House II Lazhechnikov," Fathers and Sons Ivan Turgenev, the brothers Grimm fairy tales and more. It just took a 4-great city school, but stayed not long: a cold, sick and almost died. After an illness in college and never returned.
And the French he learned from guvernatki-Frenchwoman by the landowner's son Grave placed in the family Matyushin lodger. Yes so learned that he took a wife (first time) Frenchwoman Marie Patiak. Even in the Paris World Fair in 1900-th year I went as an interpreter.
And the violin, he taught himself to play, and he made a violin itself.
This painting was in school, is yes. By the way, he suggested that IE Krachkovskii seriously studying painting. First there was a workshop Ya.F. Tsioglinskogo (from 1902 to 1905.), Then the school EN Zvantseva -2 years. We Bakst and Dobuzhinsky. In how it is! A man over forty already!

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Сообщение от dedulya37

writing pen should at least know the alphabet.

Yes, but to correctly write the words and make proposals that is not enough - need to be more efficient and capable. But to become a writer - even a talented ...

Сообщение от dedulya37

Here, I think the analogy is the same.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

The question is. Where is something to teach the alphabet?

Here rather how to teach and who is the teacher? ...

[олег назаров]

be able to draw a matter of education ...... educated person should be able to draw .... read music .... know though, a couple of languages .... are not educated but extremely talented huodozhniki ...

[Allena]

Сообщение от Oleg Nazarov

to be able to draw a matter of education ...... educated person should be able to draw

Well, that's you enough!: Eek:: D

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Сообщение от Oleg Nazarov

to read music .... know though, a couple of languages ....

And that's in any gates! What are you? "Although, a couple of languages ..." Why? A? In America escape? : D: D: D

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Сообщение от Semen Semenovich

so dolzhet an artist dealing with contemporary trends to be able to draw?

A question, in my opinion, very relevant for contemporary artists, because, say ... 19 th century, such a question could even be ... Today, fast-time, you need to have time to earn more money - where already there to find time to study (self). Therefore, approaches have changed: Copy - are not interested and do not need to draw from nature - also, and to teach - do not need (because they do not know themselves) - you show your inner world (only need is not trivial, but somehow unusual). This modern and izgolyayutsya ...
Certainly, among them too there are interesting, and who can ... Therefore, it seems to me, the artist must well (professionally) to draw.

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Сообщение от Oleg Nazarov

is not educated but extremely talented huodozhniki ...

And as they recognize? Uneducated, in the sense - nothing does not know how or does not have special education? Last only desirable, but really, not necessarily.

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Сообщение от kozhinart

I think that under the ability to draw too different meanings lie

Tell me, what are the different meanings may lie in the skill. This is not philosophy. Then either you know how, or - no.

[fross]

Reminded anecdote:

Bobruisk. Personnel weighted plant:
  - Hello, I'm a tinsmith, I want to work for you.
  - Write a statement.
  - But I do not know how to write, I am illiterate.
  - Then I'm sorry, we can not accept you.
A few years later. St. Petersburg. The respectable gentleman walking along the Nevsky Prospect with a chic lady. On the way they come across jewelry store. Come.
  - Dear, I have long dreamed of such a necklace with emeralds!
  - Well, what else do you like it here?
  - Here are the earrings and kulonchik.
  - Pack, please, all of this. How many of me?
  - Two million three hundred and fifteen thousand!
  Mr. calculated with the seller, pulling from his briefcase a lot of money.
  The seller is perplexed:
  - Why do you carry with you such a huge amount of cash? It is much easier to write a check, is not it?
  - Oh, if I knew how to write, I'd still be working tinsmith in Bobruisk.