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Старый 13.04.2009, 14:37 Язык оригинала: Русский       #41
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Tjutchev, to me "there" as a Russian is these situations more interesting.

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It happens and funnier.
Tell-all laugh.



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Старый 13.04.2009, 14:45 Язык оригинала: Русский       #42
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The bad news is that we always thought it would be like miru.Ne need to do so, we must consider himself a part of this world. World in your understanding is very cunning, greedy and cunning, in his hands a lot of instruments of pressure on people, far more than in the USSR. they are doing to the world that they want and even have penetrated into our consciousness and see how many people are already saying that art can only be to the west, but there may be born talent, all that was here no one is interested. And who in the world now we need art \ present \, and not a shark in formaldehyde, or a skull in diamonds for millions of dollars, you do not notice how the world mocks us, not only insulting the honor and dignity but also our minds. At the expense of Shishkin and Vasnetsov I agree with you.
    Well said Samvel. Only about Vasnetsov, Shishkin and how - then on - amateurishly (sorry). Without an understanding of the subject.



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Старый 13.04.2009, 14:47 Язык оригинала: Русский       #43
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But our Tar already made its gesheft. This question has been placed on the forehead. Can I bank with shit, even if she even kept in the museum, is considered art or not? That's right! With a big if, with a small letter is written - it does not matter, a red herring ...

Itself is a form of Tar answer is that forces many (and at this forum too), so as not to look backward, bashful somehow agree with it, such as it is of course if, then perhaps all the same ... Well and somewhere, in part, she like a pro, right, of course ... It Well de there - at best ... and in the same spirit.

And for the sake of all and done. After all, if her vision is shared even in this community is very close to the culture, then soon our exhibitions, galleries, art galleries will be filled with excrement all aggregate states - and in banks, and in free form, which is partly already implemented.

Avant-garde, in turn, quickly peremetnetsya in the world of fashion and all those who have "haute couture" will have - but how? - Smear shit and themselves, and their clothes to "match" ... more "fantasy" just do not want.

Then even "violent" Oleg Kulik and his devilry orthodox seem sluggish. These, however, do not sink ... Never mind, come up with a super-show "Golden rain" and hold on Red Square. That's just the joy will be for Degtev all countries!

This is so technology. Guys create volotilnost in its sector of the market advantageous to it and "artists" - they just need to eat more and drink more ...

Not bad on this subject in the Kommersant article was published recently. About gelmanovschinu true. However, degtyarschina - the same thing. No revelations article, but basically correct, and shed light on the ideology of our heroine with a simple Russian name Tar. Who has not read it you can look: http://www.kommersant.ru/doc.aspx?Do...&NodesID=8



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Старый 13.04.2009, 14:54 Язык оригинала: Русский       #44
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Not bad on this subject in the Kommersant article was published recently. About gelmanovschinu true. However, degtyarschina - the same thing. No revelations article, but basically correct, and shed light on the ideology of our heroine with a simple Russian name Tar. Who has not read it you can look: http://www.kommersant.ru/doc.aspx?Do...&NodesID=8     
But her background: http://galerist.livejournal.com/1090291.html
Generally, colleagues, with this attitude and the change of personality we are rapidly drifting to the "squabbling". Pity, could obtain correct and meaningful.



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Старый 13.04.2009, 14:58 Язык оригинала: Русский       #45
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Vladimir, Volodya You are not wrong, normally discuss .. E. Tar all love, a good woman ..



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Старый 13.04.2009, 14:59 Язык оригинала: Русский       #46
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Tell-all laugh.
     Experts jealous Alexandra Exter
//The scandal around the exhibition in Tours
  

The newspaper Kommersant »№ 61 (4116) on 07/04/2009
 
Exhibition vanguard

French city of Tours was in the center of a huge scandal. Nobody expected that it will show "Alexandra Exter and her Russian friends." Commented Surya b-Sadekova.

When the eminent Parisian judge Jean Shovlen suggested to the authorities of Tours, to an exhibition on the sign to the representative of Russian avant-garde, they gladly gave their consent. Gala Opening Day was held in late January. Local and even national press made a laudatory articles. It turned out that it is virtually the first serious retrospective of Alexandra Exter in a country where the artist spent the last part of his life.

Visitors should have been taken in the halls of Tours of the palace. However, a few days before the planned completion of the exhibition in the museum raided by prosecutors and sealed all the exhibits. Total 190 pieces, 160 of which are part of a personal collection of Jean Shovlena - curator of the exhibition. In his own words, these works were purchased by them in the USSR 30-40 years ago. The servants of the law is suspected that the lion's share of the paintings represented in the halls of the museum, forgery. The city fell into a deep state of shock. This case can not remember the history of museum activities of the French Republic. Instigator of the scandal was made by Andrei Nakov, who, like Jean Shovlen, is a known expert in the field of Russian avant-garde.

It should be noted that Andrei Nakov is not the sole owner of the rights to the legacy of creativity Alexandra Exter. Exactly the same rights and have an expert organizer Jean Shovlen. After all, once gentlemen Nakov and Shovlen together on an equal footing, acquired rights from the direct heir of the artist Alexandra Exter, Simone Lissima. Then the life paths of two experts differed.

In recent years, Andrei Nakov serves as the chief expert on the works of Kasimir Malevich. The art published fundamental work devoted to the founder of Suprematism. Folio, however, gained the status of the fundamental labor, which all refer to and which is an integral part of historians and art historians. The puzzle is no in it. Despite the fact that Andrei Nakov deals Russian avant-garde since the mid 1960's, his name is mainly associated not with scientific activity, but with different scandal. In mid-1980's, he even had the unfortunate experience of dealing with justice, when it was discovered that dozens of watercolor works by Mikhail Larionov, which no one has ever seen, before they got into a collection of Andrew Nakova are fakes.

But in Jean Shovlena no less complicated affair with Russian avant-garde than his former friend and ally. As an expert, he has evolved from a ballet dancer. The love of Russian art, in the words of the same Shovlena, he instilled Lifar. No one was surprised that for a resounding statement of the project, Mr. Shovlen chose provincial museum of the city. Typically, large art critics do not see such exposures. They serve to attract tourists, but not professional experts. On the other hand are always accompanied by catalogs. And every work that visited the exhibition in the museum, and even reproduced in the catalog, gaining legitimacy, provenance. Each auction house will gladly take this work for sale. Mr. Shovlen done a great job, but he could not have imagined that a colleague, even a competitor, would show such aggression. After the scandal Andrei Nakov as disadvantageous as Shovlenu. Whatever was the court's decision, whatever the case is over, the main thing done: the market of Russian avant-garde, which was already drowning in scandals, may simply be ruined.

http://www.kommersant.ru/doc-y.aspx?DocsID=1151427
 
In my opinion ridiculous. : D



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I think is ridiculous.
Where to laugh?
Apparently I have something with a sense of humor ...
Incidentally, the forum this topic was discussed.
http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showth...ghlight =?????



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Where to laugh?
Apparently I have something with a sense of humor ...
Incidentally, the forum this topic was discussed.
http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showth...ghlight =?????
    It's not just you! Do not worry, you can live with it.



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По умолчанию Gentlemen, I propose to read the classics

For all the European faiths, religious and political, is the first chapter of Genesis, which shows that the world was created correctly, that life is beautiful, and therefore we must multiply. We call this basic faith categorical agreement with being.
If until recently the word "shit" was drawn in the books to sharpen, this was not out of moral considerations. We do not claim that shit is immoral! Disagreement with by shit merely metaphysical properties. Minutes allocation faeces - daily proof of the unacceptability of Creation. One of two things: either shit is acceptable (and we are not locked in the toilet!), Or we pose an unacceptable way.
From this it follows that the aesthetic ideal of the categorical agreement with being a world in which shit rejected and all behave as if it does not exist. This aesthetic ideal is called kitsch.
"Keach" - a German word that was born in the mid-nineteenth-century sentimental and then spread in all languages. However, frequent use has blurred its original metaphysical meaning: kitsch is the absolute denial of shit in the literal and figurative sense of the word kitsch excludes from its field of view, everything in human existence is fundamentally unacceptable.



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Although naming pot, but not put in the oven!



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