At that living contemporary artists

[LCR]

Сообщение от fross

The question really is not simple. It turns out to live in prosperity can only be indulging the tastes of existing customers, but to make history, but creating something new that should change these preferences, and therefore has negligible chance of being well paid.

No, it does not work. Neither Yakovlev, to which a monetary success came after his death, or Soutine, no steel does not go on about the tastes of customers, simply at some point, they "noticed" - and selfishly add: Thank God - without them, life would be immeasurably poorer for me .

[fross]

Сообщение от LCR

No, it does not work. Neither Yakovlev, to which a monetary success came after his death, or Soutine, no steel does not go on about the tastes of customers, simply at some point, they "noticed" - and selfishly add: Thank God - without them, life would be immeasurably poorer for me .

Who noticed? It is not customers whose tastes do not coincide with them? Noticed the unit managed to convince others of a few. Now their value is unquestionable, the taste of customers has changed (though not all)

[Posav]

Сообщение от Veronic

I understand that the design, possible variations to be a janitor, a mechanic, carpenter, etc. it means to be an artist, and paint portraits it means to be konyunkturschikom?

The word conjuncture I meant to write something that pokupaemo on the market or to write applications for funding for installations in various organs or body and TAs.
Writing Portrait certainly nicer than plow designer or a loader, but how do you align the two styles, two persons in one bottle?
Funny pictures which I have called "the role of the artist in contemporary society":

[Кирилл Сызранский]

fross and LCR, you (pl.), the game is that? You are on the same say, but how would argue. So, yes? Durite our brother ... : D konyukturschika?

[Seriy]

I think the profession of the artist depreciated, t e pay artists less and less. Rembrandt quietly at fair fees for custom portraits bought a house in the city center. Can an artist today to buy a house in central Moscow, just by drawing portraits?
So I read on Artinvest that to enter the top 50 world's most successful launches in his career, he had to sell through auctions at 50 000 euro works.
That's ridiculous! The young novice broker on the stock exchange earning as much in 1 day! and no-paint canvases ...
Simply, there are people who like to paint, but it is on the yield somewhere in the bottom of the list of occupations ...

[Veronic]

Here, remembered in the subject.
I have a friend Swiss husband and wife. Live in Hungary to retire from Switzerland. Built a posh house near Lake Balaton. The house has large bright studio with panoramic views of the neighborhood. Paintings, watercolors, more precise experiment. Buy a surprising number of watercolor paper and pour it paints. Then look what happened. Successful work lay, organizes exhibitions in different countries, the money that is .... Invites the artists sometimes amateurs, they pay money for the opportunity to work together.
That such a life of contemporary artist. By the way, until retirement, neither he nor she were not artists. http://www.artmajeur.com/?go=artwork...p;login=balint

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Сообщение от Seriy

I think the profession of the artist depreciated, t e pay artists less and less. Rembrandt quietly at fair fees for custom portraits bought a house in the city center. Can an artist today to buy a house in central Moscow, just by drawing portraits?
...

Maybe .... Nikas Safronov

[eva777]

Сообщение от Seriy

Maybe this artist to buy a house in central Moscow, just by drawing portraits?

Maybe, maybe ... Shilov his name

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Сообщение от Veronic

Maybe .... Nikas Safronov

And Nikas not quite in the center, but the location is also quite good

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Сообщение от Veronic

artists amateurs

And what is that artists are?

[Veronic]

Сообщение от eva777

 
And what kind of artists such?

=Amateur amateur

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от eva777

And what kind of artists are?

Half a year trying to find out. But the participants from Ukraine, apparently, did not even understand my question. Sam then already guessed. It is in Ukraine so fans (not professionals) is called.

[Veronic]

amateur (French)
amateur (English)

I think that Ukraine has nothing to do with it, Cyril. I call it the first time in the West heard.