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Старый 31.03.2012, 22:58 Язык оригинала: Русский       #21
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Subject , of course, is very urgent and overripe in its necessity, but its solution must be connected and lawyers and psychologists and economists. Give addressing only a small group of artists and curators of our aktualschikov destructive and immoral. Now there is virtually no accountability to the artist and gallery owner gallerista to the buyer - all , walk, themselves to sebe.Net kodaksa honor in the community. A great sin and experts. We must seek out and nurture new and emerging all.



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Subject, of course, is very urgent and overripe in its necessity, but its solution must be connected and lawyers and economists and psychologists
And notaries, and sexologists, and fininspektorov ...



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Старый 31.03.2012, 23:37 Язык оригинала: Русский       #23
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Give addressing only a small group of artists and curators of our aktualschikov destructive and immoral.
Maskit, I think the situation is such that there is a master of Art, and can not be. So who wants one, and takes the initiative of development, as it considers necessary and important. To say a priori, that someone will do destructive and immoral, I think, to a lesser extent incorrect. The results of their activities, we have not seen, and tried for the intentions implicit or explicit - is to talk about anything.
In the end, properly speaking, Boris Groys, that the art scene is a self-regulating and samokorrektiruemaya authority (the exact words I do not remember the meaning of reproducing). The question is, if there is an initiative on the part of individuals (artists, curators and gallery owners) should be part of the state. That the state should do? In the first, second, etc.

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Here's another article (required reading for) on how to

I went to the people and did not return
A creative Muscovite went to revive the Russian village ...

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He found work at the school and decided to teach the children in their own way. Became director of the country club and began to make out of it entertainment complex. Offered to local residents outside the box mark Shrove Tuesday. The attempt of the Cultural Revolution ended in rural rebellion. A consumer naivety inherent in creative people, brought up a Muscovite prison.

35-year-old unemployed intellectuals in Moscow, Ilya Farber learned about the village Moshenka summer of 2010. Farber vacationing with his 16-year-old son Peter at the Lake Seliger and met with local resident, who told him about the governor's program, that can be used to obtain land for the work of a rural teacher. Ilya liked the idea. In September, he joined the school teacher Moshensky Fine Arts and moved there with his son.

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The village Moshenka Tver Region is located 30 km from Ostashkov. She's not on the map, and there are not buses. It is home to 200 people and it seems a million singing birds. They are not silent, even at the time of snowfall. For urban congestion unusual, but nice to pull out of oven. Previously moshenkovtsy made sleds and carts, are now living through the sale of wood. In the village a school, several grocery stores, post office, library and a country club. On the rickety houses mezzanines, uncleared snow on parts comes from the waist up.

Ilya Farber Moshenku loved once. Instead of boring still lifes, he taught students (a total of 20 children) to paint colorful carrots. The authors of the most unusual carrots received prizes. Salaries in 11,000 Farber enough for you to buy gifts for children and a teacher - the flowers. Farber is not limited to drawing lessons. He read books to children is not on the program, set them to music on high-quality players. In winter, they all poured ice rink, and on February 14 built ice slides in the form of hearts. Pupils most memorable "evening of terror" - then they Farber sat in complete darkness and fear to wean her.

In February, the head of the village, which they managed to get close, invited him to become director of the country club. The former principal of a middle-aged woman, and for several years was unable to complete scheduled maintenance. 2.4 million under budget Farber decided to make a one-story box storey entertainment complex. Son of Peter Farber said that the project plan they drew themselves, as his father, "a self-taught architect." On three floors, they placed the hotel, concert hall, billiards and more. "We're going to invite to live music, find grants for the repair of roads on Moshenki. In short, make obsolete the resort village" - says the 18-year-old Peter.

"Why do we have a three-story club? Who is going to go there?" - Still does not understand Irina Fedotova, a mother of four children, a resident of Moshenki. She is convinced that Farber sick man. "It is September 1 when the school was presented, said that he was an opera singer, painter, owns the Chinese language, is able to play many instruments. We all looked at each other with their parents, and twisted his finger to his temple." By the time he said that he did not have money, it is completely taken aback, says Fedotov. "Such recognition lead us to suspect the money needed by everyone." Then, her daughter Tanya was out of school to bring strange news. Like, Farber in the classroom literature books read aloud, and nothing else does. Tanya says Fedotov, such lessons may like it, just because the lessons are not asked. "An Evening of Horror" Fedotova seemed wild. She came to the school shouted at Farber - "how he dares to feel in the darkness of her children?". The last straw for her was the Carnival, which she organized each year. Farber suggested that instead of meeting in the center of the village carnival to walk the streets and go to tea parties to the residents. "Look! It is not accepted, never such in our village was not".

All year residents Farber wrote in a complaint to the police and the courts. The first complaint was received from the local MP, Helen Fokina: Farber allegedly beat her. Like, she came to school to take pictures, as he leads a class, and he took the power in her camera. "What is that guy is? Woman beats. Women can never be beat, even the bad ones, even drunk." The Court held that "Farber II on the basis of personal hostile relations that have arisen due to the fact that his pictures of EI Fokin, intentionally, in order to harm the health, struck a blow Fokina EI on both hands .. .. " However, she then went Fokine to reconcile the parties. The following action has been devoted to the fact that he fired the artistic director of the country club, finding it not very effective. Residents do not understand why he left the man without a job. Then came the appeal to the Board of Deputies with a request to complete this repair and organize recreation for children. In the village went steady rumors that pedophile Farber.

Neither the courts nor the rumors Farber was not disturbed. People standing in his way, he raised a laugh. This is bitterly tells 43-year-old head of the administration Love Valeeva. Holding back tears, she admits that in her life that she lived in Moshenke not seen such a "crank" as Farber. He was with her on "you" and wrote her poems. She allowed him to live at her house. In the evenings, he played guitar, and she - the accordion. She sang. She has not figured out is who is Ilya Farber. To her he seemed to be infinitely creative, and also a great kid and a villain, and a genius. She asked him to be with people gently, and he replied to her that her kindness will not allow her to become an effective manager. Since then, as they parted, she on the verge of a nervous breakdown.

The school principal Galina Pavlinova not fed tender feelings for Farber, but knew him as a "come in large numbers come in large numbers." So they are called in the village. The very Pavlinova moved here from Leningrad, many years ago when her husband, tired of the city. When she came here with their culture, their views, you do not understand why the inhabitants of this village do not want to see beyond their noses. But then learned that every man for himself realizes that the better for him.

The concept of "living better" here means "to live better than the neighbor." For example, when the TV is wider. The village - a specific place, explains Pavlinov, if you do not understand this, it is automatically transferred to the category of enemies. When she had a single in the village there was a greenhouse, people do not understand. Problems Farber, she says, came from the fact that he did not understand and did not want to understand that villagers her mentality. "And it is absolutely uncompromising, decided to make a cultural revolution."

On leaving school I was faced with a teacher of history, Natalia Semenovna. She went on to talk about professional Farber: "If we draw a historical parallel, I would compare it with the Populists, who went to villages to educate the masses. But only the people here do not understand." Farber seemed to be the teacher says that he will achieve the recognition, building a three-story club. It was enough to just dig them well.

It is unknown what would have turned the campaign Ilya Farber in the nation, if he had more time. But on September 9, he went on business and never returned. In Tver, he had an appointment with the contractor Gorokhov, who repaired the country club. According to Farber's son, Peter, and six months of repair work, Ilya had to spend over a hundred thousand rubles from his pocket. Like, a contractor who came to object to the "Hammer" will never have the money for building materials. Peter says that all arrangements were in words, no receipts: "My dad is naive in domestic matters." Gorokhov gave him money, and the output tied Farber - money was labeled, and he went straight to the jail waiting for trial on charges of bribery (Article 290 § 3 of the Criminal Code) and abuse of office (Article 285 Part 1 of the Criminal Code Code). He faces up to 15 years in prison. Hearings to begin in April.

Instead, the phone rings at the contractor has Gorokhov, "Vladimir Central." About Farber, he said reluctantly, a version of Peter Farber calls "stupid, full of water." Gorokhov points to its impeccable reputation: at least 14 years of his construction company, "State Building, an 'he was not brought to court once. Farber case, he says, is "the simplest domestic extortion." Like, had to give bribes Farber, that he is not terminated the contract. "I gave him once and he got a taste."

Gorokhov said that Farber had received from him half a million rubles kickbacks. Assures that all meetings with Farber recorded on tape. Provide a record he can not, because they gave to the investigator and erased from the recorder as unnecessary. Lead investigator of the case, Andrey Savenkov, not given to listen to records, citing the secrecy of the investigation. Gorokhov said that we should not write this article: his family is not in the know, make a fuss about him more than he thinks.

In Moshenke reacted to the arrest without interest. A local fireman in a fur hat on the question of actually Farber responds lazily, "Oh, yes, he was a Jew from Moscow. Him behind bars and place." For MP beaten by Elena Fokina arrest was a rare good fortune, she was appointed the new Director of Agriculture of the club. To the delight of residents, she rejected the idea of ​​an add floors and immediately recognized club repair completed. However, this winter the club has fallen off the ceiling, and closed it again.
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iside, you're absolutely right - you have all these artists have many years of his muddy Chernukho our art , and good results there . trust them to lead the process of solving your problem sounded nelzya.Razvoruyut taxpayer money and come up with a new , Innovation , Look at their faces and think horoshenko.Shodil here at NCCA - darkness and insanity in full volume with this premiey.Poetomu online and it is not discussed , boring and recycled everything. Bazhanov there really ohrenel . It is necessary to attract new healthy forces know all the directions of our problems , rather than the direction of his own pocket .



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Comrade , I can not watch stand -
Said the fireman fireman ,
The lights in my burners do not burn,
In the boiler does not keep me too a couple .
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local fireman in a fur hat on question of fact Farber responds lazily , "Oh, yes, he was a Jew from Moscow. him behind bars and place ."
That's right fellow fireman says - all of these hudozhnichkov in prison, and it is better to count.
And then stolen taxpayer money , and come up with a new " Innovation " , enough so muddy his Chernukho our art .
Only positive , only the heroes!
 Glory to Russia!
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py SS who art!
 
Glory to Russia!
Cyril, again promoting fascism?
Or the Nazis?
Something you really confused me.



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Cyril, again promoting fascism?
Or the Nazis?
Something you really confused me.

Only promotion of healthy forces of the forum!



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Only promote the healthy forces of the forum!
Let zdoroveyut power forum the exact terminology and the observance of a quorum!



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subject to the quorum!
What is this beast is?
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What is this beast is?
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should put aside the culture and return to the discussion of contemporary Russian art market . As to the project while it is in deep crisis. I know that on this subject firmly believe bright minds . Discussed quite tech tricks as this market can be re-run . In connection with the specifics of the moment , many are turning to the state as a source of resource for this run. The situation is not hopeless , but time is working against us. A new solvent for the audience this time can switch to "import" , where all debugged and understood .
What allowed these bright minds that the project is contemporary art was in a crisis? Or is it not they, but others are not so bright ( ie dark) ?




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