Alex Lachmann about Russian art - Форум по искусству и инвестициям в искусство

Vladimir · 11.06.2008, 17:01

- How do you assess today's prices on Russian art? What will happen to them next?

- Prices are high not only for Russian artists. In the world of great interest to art - in London for the past year, museum exhibitions visited by more people than cinema. This is a social process - for many years there was no war, the terms of globalization, the availability of information. Today's Western museums - the show, and art - is entertainment. And of course, that people who have the opportunity to buy art of their country. Just on Russian art prices rose from the ground, so progress seems so great. But they are no higher than the German or American. Even below. I am sure that the price of Russian avant-garde, modernism will still grow. Although I always recommend to buy art only when it is you really like.

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In Russia, you must create a legislative basis for the international art auctions, said the Director of the Russian museum Vladimir Gusev. He expressed his opinion here today at the opening of the first pre-auction exhibition, Christie's, which presents 17 masterpieces of world art.

According to him, "Russia's art market is ripe to undertake large-scale international auctions, and are interested in this, including representatives of the museum community." "Naturally, we will never sell, and we do not have time for the rise in prices for works of art in the world market to fund such a way museum collections, but we are watching things that are sold at auctions, then to maintain contact with the owners of these works and be able to cooperate with them in the preparation of exhibitions. " In this regard, Gusev believes that "Russia should prepare legislation that permitted the sale, purchase and export of art." He did not rule out that the representatives of the museum community will soon come up with any initiative to adjust the legislation in this area.

Source: http://www.tvkultura.ru/news.html?id=232998&cid=46

Евгений · 12.06.2008, 05:37

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According to him," Russia's art market is ripe to undertake large-scale international auctions, and are interested in this, including representatives of the museum community ".

It's time, may the light of recent personnel changes (Kibovsky), that will change in Russia, Boris Boyarskov it did not do ..

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In this regard, Gusev believes that" Russia should prepare legislation that permitted the sale, purchase and export of art ".

Golden words .. but so far the actions of Stalin laws ....

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Vladimir, Thank you again for a great post ...

LCR · 18.06.2008, 16:30

Gusev absolutely right that the need for a legislative framework conducive to the circulation of works of art.
This is - mandatory but not sufficient condition for the development of museum collections of contemporary art and the art market in general, without which the creation of the add-impossible.

I would like to continue the theme of relations between muzyami and collectors /sponsors, which says Mr. Lachmann (see full text of his interview, posted on this strong first-class website).
The signs of the arrogant attitude of museums to private collectors to observe and to me. But the attitude of some private collectors who believe that by agreeing to finance the kind of exhibition to present the work or pay for publication of the catalog, they bought the museum with pluck, too, not fiction, it was quite unprecedented.

Digression: I personally, for example, one such "collector-sponsor, said that all solve * only * money, which can hold an exhibition of any artist in any museum, to which I replied that it will ultimately rights - if he wants to organize an exhibition at the Pompidou Center X, then indeed, for this you must first buy the Pompidou Center

Interestingly, for example, will develop the whole story with the reconstruction of the Pushkin Museum - not so long ago I put on the forum link to the article, which talks about the need to attract private funds to it, and then casually mentions that "sponsor" will have room for her office inside the museum quarter - let's see how events will unfold ...

First of all, it is necessary to clarify that such sponsoring. Worldwide, this allocation of funds for some of the cultural (or even not very cultural) activities, in which the sponsor does not expect to recover these funds, so even with the revenues without. Enterprises, and sometimes individuals come to this in search of a positive "halo" around his name, but the basis is sponsoring an opportunity spent the money deducted from their taxes - hence, the phenomenon of sponsoring implies an effective system of collection taxes. In Russia it is absolutely not true: a "sponsor" agrees to fund the museum exhibition and catalog, and then he tries to make other private collectors could not provide at this exhibition of work from their collections, and then later decides that it would disburse only play items from his collection, other "sponsor" is holding an exhibition of the artist, and then receives nearly tenfold the value of their labor costs by this artist - the examples are many and quite unambiguous. That is why the cautious attitude of museums, which are trying to exert all possible pressure is justified.

Thus, we return to the absolute necessity to adapt the way Russia's taxation, so it is possible to develop a real market of art. That would have immediately increased the number of buyers of works of art, would have led to the emergence of nasoyaschih sponsors and thus would enable museums build their collections of modern art - in short, would have improved the situation.

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