Icon of 19th century, Kholmogory thread

[Moroz]

Estimeytu comment on, please.

[redbor]

Сообщение от Boris Cohn ; 2247271"

may cut inmates

If this is a modern thing, the cutter could be anywhere. Absolutely no difference - whether in the studio or in the center of Moscow prison in Arkhangelsk.

Сообщение от Moroz; 2247321 "

By estimeytu ...

A evaluation - must still determine the 19th century or contemporary work .
Forgetting about spekrografe , as you requested , but given these bloopers in inscription - more chances that modern .

[Moroz]

Сообщение от redbor

on the right side, the letters "I" and the letter "yat".

Here are the inscription, see, these characters can not be there

Thank you, very important detail.
Extra "ux".
Master wrong?
Or one of the possible variations?
Falshaki?
<- ~ 3 ~ ->

[redbor]

I do not know.
How can you go wrong?
In the word "Holy" of these letters do not .

If only a foreigner cut, Japanese or German

Сообщение от Fed

spectrograph determines age of the material,

Is it in the 19th century, the mammoth can be found not only in the zoo?

[Moroz]

Сообщение от redbor

Is it in the 19th century, the mammoth can be found not only in the zoo?

I'm afraid even in zoos ... well, if only the very old and sick

Added after 3 minutes
Do I understand correctly that the material could be bone or walrus tusk of a mammoth?

[redbor]

Сообщение от Moroz

Spectrograph confirmed the 19th century.

If the 19th century - is the age of the material, the bone walrus or elephant.

Although walrus-tusk yellow.

[Moroz]

And if the 19 th century - is the age of the product, we drop the age of the material, what are the options?
Elephant and mammoth tusk essentially different materials.

[redbor]

Tusk of an elephant - in Europe in the 18-19 centuries. used intensively for various craft projects. v.tch. religious subjects .
Mammoth - is north of Russia , and of Chukotka- Alaska.
 How to distinguish them from the photo - I do not know.
If you go back to spektografu - it shows from the expansion of the age range of the material.
 And if not the spectrograph - inscription - and spelling and paleography very, very suspicious looks (given that people who understand icons cut and carving and Orthodox traditions. )
As an alternative to the 19th century - we can assume that inscription was lost for 100 years.
And now stuck bukovki what was found.
By the way , the example of the northern thread turn 18/19 cc

[Moroz]

Сообщение от redbor

By the way, the example of the northern thread turn 18/19 cc

Lefty did?
Very curious answer, thanks redbor!

[redbor]

Bone carving - something quite rare. If I was asked to buy such an icon , I'd first showed her an experienced carver , who makes these things. He buys and bone , and can distinguish mammoth from walrus or a deer, and have different catalogs .
(Moroz I have sent a message to HP )