Старый 20.05.2013, 11:21 Язык оригинала: Русский       #41
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Which style , fashion , etc. etc. writing are two recent works .
Late Socialist Realism , so to speak . It is , nevertheless, still Socialist Realism. because here there is a message - to represent " working man " , with all the attributes , whether on vacation or not, regardless of nationality (even better if they are different) , the type of work it is desirable to "physical" , and only the wind , the cold , the village - it welcome ...

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But, as can be called a "more scientific , or what " and describe the painting style of the letter.
"Research " - is realism . "Technique" - oil on canvas or tempera. " Manner " - is individual differences , as a specific artist works ...

But ... Featured your work differ from those shown on the link Sergeinowo - there is a sort of " chain letters," too late , and I would say, " degenerate socialist realism " almost agony , very different from "real socialist realism " - a line of utopian dreams ...
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Старый 20.05.2013, 19:07 Язык оригинала: Русский       #42
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First, the work of Vladimir went under Leib " Vladimir landscape ".
And how , by the way , style , painting technique Britova , Yukina , Kokurina name ?
SW. People!

So I do not understand at all.
I wanted a man to delve into the manners and style.
What 's wrong with that ?
Do we have dofiga estetskih disputes in the forum?

Of Default snapped up because you do not like socialist realism .
I do not like .
Well, not a reason to write 5 pages of " socialist realism was . Yet ."
And if the Russian art of the Soviet period, there is nothing more to classify ?


Cyril Syzransky, - I will not undertake to immediately respond.
Thought is in color rendering and color selection . But the forum is not pulled.



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Старый 20.05.2013, 19:15 Язык оригинала: Русский       #43
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threw on of Default due to the fact that you do not like socialist realism.
But who is this "attacked"?
<! - ~ 1 ~ ->



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Старый 20.05.2013, 23:28 Язык оригинала: Русский       #44
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1. Many of my articles in the network, but only since there were electronic versions of some publications. You can type in search Zara Ter-Akopian (I sign for her husband, that those on art, not to be confused with those of psychology). However, lately I write rarely, only about friends, once.
Scan the old ones? Yes, not all, but some have, efficient idea, maybe I will. Maybe I will lay out here is that in Russian.
We look forward to your articles straight since 1982.
Articles on a possible "Summerhouse". I think that there they would find an audience among your admirers.

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2. I explained that I edit posts because you have to change the keyboard. And why should you in your posts are adding new pieces?
I accepted your explanation. (Sometimes it is easier to agree than to explain why the "no").
"Adding new pieces" - a positive effect, but quickly corrected, because he said, stupid or wrong - it somehow, you know ... not really.

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Rude I call "do not write because I do not know," I know, do not have the habit of writing about what I do not understand, or to stipulate that they say do not know.
Thanks Administration Forum! My deleted message restored (see below). Boorish it or not - it's public forum.

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zarajara, you can not ask to speak to this topic, because you do not understand my question. Thanks in advance!
Dear Lord! Forced to remove images of works, as "3. Theme went beyond the discussion of your pictures (by the way, thanks in part to me) ...". I hope that it will calm and participating in the forum for it will no longer be subjects for discussion. (By the way, she did not understand that they have discussed the work of the album, not mine.'s Just that I was interested in the manner of one of the artists. Though, I admit, some of the items I have purchased with pleasure <! - ~ 1 ~ - >!).


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3. Topic moved beyond the discussion of your pictures (by the way, thanks in part to me), because my message is not addressed only to you, and even though they are your subject, I also do not wonder you like them or not.
Strong <! - ~ 7 ~ ->! There are no words! Just a gem! He took a pencil! <! - ~ 7 ~ ->

Anyone who agrees with item number 3 posts zarajara spasibki please put it in the message number 39.


Thank you for adequate discussion of the Forum! For its part, the subject is closed.




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Старый 21.05.2013, 00:25 Язык оригинала: Русский       #45
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This is not quite true ...
There was also a gradation of technical and methodological , and other ...
I do not understand you . What are the specific terms that characterize these "graduation ."

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Of Default snapped up because you do not like socialist realism .
I do not like .
Well, not a reason to write 5 pages of " socialist realism was . Yet ."
And if the Russian art of the Soviet period, there is nothing more to classify ?
SW. Sergey burly ! Well, who interferes with " a man digging in manners and style "? <! - ~ 1 ~ ->
The problem is that neither style nor stylistics is not there. What we're trying to explain topikstarter . Personally , I believe that the reason for this - the monotony and impersonality . But maybe I'm wrong? It may just be in the hands of art historians have not yet reached ? "Black Square" obscures one eye ? But if you have your own little list " of manners and style of " masters " socialist realism " , post it , we can agree with him . And we've got you " Read More#" Train <! - ~ 1 ~ ->



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Старый 21.05.2013, 07:16 Язык оригинала: Русский       #46
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Dear Lord! Forced to remove images of works, as "3. Theme went beyond the discussion of your pictures (by the way, thanks in part to me) ...". I hope that it will calm and participating in the forum for it will no longer be subjects for discussion. (By the way, she did not understand that they have discussed the work of the album, not mine.'s Just that I was interested in the manner of one of the artists. Though, I admit, some of the items I have purchased with pleasure <! - ~ 1 ~ - >!).


Thank you for adequate discussion of the Forum! For its part, the subject of close.
Nothing was removed. This topic and so exhausted and living its last hours, unless of course we have not volem in her new piece of the energy of its amusing skirmish (which make sense because no one understood).
Well restored that same message I read, still find it boorish and not deserved.
And I'm still right - there is no particular style and manners of the late works of socialist realism.
The fact that the album - make a difference?
PSChto You are so nervous about my old articles? And so what you want me to put them? Type to prove that I'm lying? - Not even funny. Why would I lie?



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Старый 21.05.2013, 07:52 Язык оригинала: Русский       #47
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The problem is that neither style nor stylistics is not there.
How is it not? A Gutttuzo ? Gutttuzo manner ? One , then at least there ? A to Guttuzo though there was some way ? If - yes, there are two manners.

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very different from "real socialist realism " - a line of utopian dreams ...
That is, in the art of the Soviet period was as realistic painting and social realism ( with or without quotes ) .

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I do not understand you .
But why? Everything is clear :
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monotony and impersonality
Need to turn the page on the history of art of the Soviet period , and lifted up his pants to run for something else out there ... Although artists - people gusty and idealistic , they are not forbidden. Another is the forum participants that approach , I think, is contraindicated .




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Старый 21.05.2013, 08:32 Язык оригинала: Русский       #48
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How does it not? A Gutttuzo ? Gutttuzo manner ? One , then at least there ? A to Guttuzo though there was some way ? If - yes, there are two manners.
artcol, the point is not that there is no manners , but the fact that it is not articulated , is selected.
You see , they themselves say " Guttuzo manner " that is necessary to refer to a particular author to denote manner .
Funny, I remembered how on one discussion in our CX , just at the beginning of the 80s, Ghukas Chubaryan ( academic and folk artist), speaking about other people's artist , said "NN, a good artist , just look at life through glasses . And this time he put on his glasses Guttuzo . " <! - ~ 7 ~ -> <! - ~ 7 ~ ->
In a large denomination bill " Guttuzo manner " as a kind of community, characterizes the followers of this manner as imitators , precisely because it is - the author .
In general, K-Maler right way - this is a particular feature of the author, although in such cases, I prefer to say - handwriting.
That would be a controversial matter .
In fact, it's critics blame could not agree on the term , hence the confusion .



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artcol, the point is not that there is no manners, but the fact that it is not articulated, is selected.
You see, they themselves say "Guttuzo manner" that is necessary to refer to a particular author to denote manner.
Funny, I remembered how on one discussion in our CX, just at the beginning of the 80s, Ghukas Chubaryan (academic and folk artist), speaking about other people's artist, said "NN, a good artist, just look at life through glasses . And this time he put on his glasses Guttuzo. ​​" <! - ~ 7 ~ -> <! - ~ 7 ~ ->
In a large denomination bill "Guttuzo manner" as a kind of community, characterizes the followers of this manner as imitators, precisely because it is - the author.
In general, K-Maler right way - this is a particular feature of the author, although in such cases, I prefer to say - handwriting.
That would be a controversial matter.
In fact, it's critics blame could not agree on the term, hence the confusion.
Guttuzo regularly pops up in threads where he participated DFS - and I understand why.

Any momentum degenerates - there is no tragedy. Moreover, sooner or later turns into its opposite. In this context, the radical artist - something very pertinent. But based on their experience of life and everywhere to see Guttuzo - these are the same "points".

About manners. In the manner of socialist realism as it has no place. Democratic centralism, as bequeathed founder. Optics must be adequate to the object under study. Then the debate will not be in the style of "elephant - it ...".



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In the manner of socialist realism as it has no place.
Democratic centralism, as bequeathed founder.
Optics must be adequate to the object under study.
Yes, exactly, it pulls on the aphorism <! - ~ 1 ~ ->



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