Старый 19.05.2013, 23:53 Язык оригинала: Русский       #31
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Dear Members ,
Tell me, please , to what style of painting, the manner of writing include a similar Soviet painting of the late 1970s and early 1980s .
Is there a specific name for it in the historiography of Soviet art .
Thanks in advance .
What else can I add ... Of course, there exists the effect of national subjects , Baltic and possibly Azerbaijan .

By the way , Barvikha exhibited similar work before.

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All purchased by the Department of Culture distributed by companies and institutions or stockpiled at special stores. After the collapse of the Soviet Union during the period of confusion is very much carried off to their homes. We Samara some artists in the 90s carried from such warehouse their work , money that has already been produced for a long time and will drive . Then the work was sold again (including through auctions ) already in private hands .
In Ulyanovsk, so it was . Bought from an exhibition in Moscow , sent here to KHUDFOND of Hudfonda back to the workshop.
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Старый 20.05.2013, 00:01 Язык оригинала: Русский       #32
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Wait, I utruzhus! Not low (a good move), for which I apologize? I understand you correctly and carefully read your posts.
That's why all the rest of the theme: Cyril Syzransky, sergejnowo, Sergei burly, IV, artcol, DSF in a relaxed manner, with dignity, weighted in favor of a topic, for which I am grateful.
But your message, starting with the first, carried a lot of negative energy that you carefully re-read, here's quotes:

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Your point of view, "Socialist realism - ... HSNO Act!", I understood immediately and publicly asked you in this thread is not to write. You promised me that at 19:33.

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But did not keep his word and continued to speak until 22:40.
The theme was created by me for specific purposes, not for you overtones "Socialist Realism».
Apologize for rudeness usually involuntary, if you intentionally, then of course, it is not necessary.
I do not write in the subject, but since you are addressing me, I answer to you here, I can in my topic, I know, do not mind.
I do not want to attribute their own words, I do not blame you saw the negative energy and "socialist realism, shit," I did not say that, perhaps unconsciously, you do feel that way.
Realism - normal art within certain limits, but when it is art .
 Since you're doing art, as far as I understood in its commercial aspect, the quality really be distinguished from social realism painting hudfondovskogo "Ches." Or do you think that once a person is able pririsovat hand to the body and the ears to the head, then all that it creates - is art?

P.S. A sequence of your message was this: the very thing which you have been sent this message directly to Cyril Syzransky, here, and see what came after that.
http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showpo...41&postcount=7
All I - to sleep.
 In order not to clutter up your theme flood can continue here tomorrow. http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showth...194851&page=53



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What would attempt to set the style of writing of the works had been made, is still up against the socialist realism.
But he is also different social realism, a lot of talented work, and more consumer goods.



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Старый 20.05.2013, 00:15 Язык оригинала: Русский       #34
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I do not write in the subject line,
So, do you write! You "do not go and say goodbye, say goodbye and leave." <! - ~ 7 ~ ->

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answer to you here, I can in my topic, I know, do not mind.
Dear, I said goodbye to you in this topic, you have to drum up another.
Dear, once again with the release of the text in bold:

Zarajara, for the future, one simple thing, if a person is not interested in your opinion on an issue, and he said to you about this, you should not be offended, just need to step aside and go about your business ... or move to another theme.


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Since you're doing art, as far as I understood in its commercial aspect, the quality really be distinguished from social realism painting hudfondovskogo "Ches." Or do you think that once a person is able pririsovat hand to the body and the ears to the head, then all that it creates - is art?
Almost all of these works (photos in my mailbox number 1, № 11) are taken from the album was released in the early 1980s after the exhibition at the Academy of Arts of the USSR, the reviewer of this edition - AM Gritsay (the album, the way it is and work, as well T.Nazarenko, N. Nesterov and others). Later this exhibition drove across the country, as well as exhibited in Italy and France.


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P.S. A sequence of your message was this: the very thing which you have been sent this message directly to Cyril Syzransky, here, and see what came after that.
"What-what-after <! - ~ 1 ~ ->" tomorrow Administatsiya "show" when recover my deleted message.

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All I - to sleep.
Good night! Sweet dreams!


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In order not to clutter up your theme flood can continue here tomorrow.

Thanks, of course, but I'm in topics like "Let's talk for life" and "arbor" is not involved.




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lot of talented work, and more consumer goods.
It's all so ... As there imitators, varying degrees of talent, etc.

By the way, for the most talented artists create custom work was a burden (which I write about the post-war time). But mediocre careerists this was a chance to break through. Hence the huge number of so-called "Socialist realism." Thematic painting, participation in exhibitions, censorship, art councils, and other ...

By the way, here's the Now the show goes [/URL].

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«Why do I rank? Fellini is Fellini. Neither national nor deserved nor what! And I'm not interested "- he said. Perhaps, somewhere in his heart he was a little hurt. But Andrew Lavrent'evich itself has not changed: Do not change, do not write custom themes. What he loved, and what he wrote.

Only one day to the next anniversary of Lenin's Prokop'ev in collaboration with artist-portraitist Semenov created the painting "Lenin in Kokushkino" (1966-1967). Then Prokop'ev Semenov and shared a studio: Semenov wrote the figure of a young Ulyanov, who lived in exile, and the coachman, delivered the books, and Prokop'ev - the rest of the canvas. Now the work is stored in the Pushkin Museum of RT.
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and T.Nazarenko, N. Nesterov and others
Romanova, Baltic artist (man in black hats) ...

All this ottsenzureno, so once dead ...
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That is, to put it mildly, because of the huge amount of repetitive faceless painting. Distinguish it is possible unless the place of writing: Vladimir School etc.
Artists of course, were for "internal use" their name "technique and manner of writing" (eg, "kondovy realism", "terry realism" or "square-cluster method") but that does not help you.
I agree, "... because of the huge amount of repetitive faceless painting ..." which, given the link sergeynowo many have a negative opinion on the "socialist realism" as a whole,
 
but I note that almost all of the pieces of work (photos in my posts number 1, № 11) are taken from the album was released in the early 1980s after the exhibition at the Academy of Arts of the USSR, the reviewer of this edition - AM Gritsay (the album, the way it is and work, as well T.Nazarenko, N. Nesterov, etc.). Later this exhibition drove across the country, as well as exhibited in Italy and France.

Do you really believe that these works are "monotonous and featureless"?

When I created a theme, I proposed to measure and compare specific work, but not the whole socialist-realist painting.

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Romanova, Baltic artist (man in black hats) ...

All this ottsenzureno, so once dead ...
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Picture did not attach?
I called the authors of works of your message number 11.
Those who knew.
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Do you really believe that these works are "monotonous and featureless"?
When I created a theme, I proposed to measure and compare specific work,
You are asking about the "manner, technique of writing". From this point of view, the vast majority of artists used exactly the same technique. Roughly speaking, like a worthless, so talented and equipment was alone. It is impossible to distinguish on grounds of "manners" any group of artists to come up with them a kind of definition that distinguishes them from other groups. There are small differences, but they are too vague to qualify for the independent term. Let's say you work shown number 5 is more technically accurate than the work number 10. Some of the more colorful, some - in a low-key scheme. But it will not extend the terminology.

To come up with some general name, not one, two talented artists who need a creative reservoir, need followers, imitators, even working in a certain "style" laid down "founder," there must be something quickly recognizable by many authors. In the Soviet art of the situation is quite different. On the one hand, there is a huge amount of pictures, looking at who can not identify the author, because they do not have a personality (even stranger), on the other hand, there are talented artists who watch as grain chaff exist by themselves. Some were too many others too little. Hence the problems with the terms.

Specifically shown your work is technically identical. About their artistic qualities can not say anything, one must look in real life.



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If you want to show your attitude towards social realism, create a new theme, and there publish your articles (clippings of articles, then you have certainly filed away), scan and share your productions. The public forum you comment on them, and believe me, the debate is hot.

But if you do not, then all your posts about the articles - flood clean water.


The text is something like the Russian was, and here is the Armenian.

Zarajara, for the future, one simple thing, if a person is not interested in your opinion on an issue, and he said to you about this, you should not be offended, just need to step back and take care of business ... or move to another topic.
1. Many of my articles in the network, but only since there were electronic versions of some publications. You can type in search Zara Ter-Hakobyan (I sign for her husband, that those on art, not to be confused with those of psychology). However, lately I write rarely, only about friends, once.
Scan the old ones? Yes, not all, but some have, efficient idea, maybe I will. Maybe I will lay out here is that in Russian.

2. I explained that I edit posts because you have to change the keyboard. And why should you in your posts are adding new pieces?

3. Topic moved beyond the discussion of your pictures (by the way, thanks in part to me), because my message is not addressed only to you, and even though they are your subject, I also do not wonder you like them or not.



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You are asking about the "manner , technique of writing" . From this point of view, the vast majority of artists used exactly the same technique. Roughly speaking , like a worthless , so talented and equipment was alone. It is impossible to distinguish on grounds of " manners " any group of artists to come up with them a kind of definition that distinguishes them from other groups. There are small differences , but they are too vague to qualify for the independent term .
This is not entirely true ...
There was also a gradation of technical and methodological , and other ... Who's who studied ...
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