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Старый 07.08.2009, 11:51 Язык оригинала: Русский       #41
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Go on a few works
It is the place to be. Completely agree with the earlier estimate made by the UK - why repeat the same thing?

I thought the previous conversation, but when Maurice split and recognizes his real interest. Interests are better than one might expect.

Only it is desirable to crop the photo in Photoshop [function Crop] or in another editor from the surrounding space, and it turns out not to painting, and installation.

  Judging by the format works and for an unknown artist, with luck, for it can be found on the hands from 3000 to 5000 thousand rubles. (Maximum)



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Старый 07.08.2009, 12:16 Язык оригинала: Русский       #42
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Cost of works by famous contemporary artists today define clear criteria, sales statistics on the international market through respectable auctions, dealers and galleries over the years.
Harder to explain the value of the work by an unknown artist, but also can, if there is a real experience with a successful result.
The question is.
How to shift the focus of successful and relevant technologies advance to the challenges of the work??, Where the principal should not be a statistical price and the value proizvedeniya.V this case the price should at least strive for compliance with the "value".
For an infinitely bored enough to note that the price pendulum swings in favor and please the 'naked king. "But as soon as the eyes, and I personally hope so, it turns out that" finance sing ballads, and has already sold the product does not constitute any value.



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Старый 07.08.2009, 12:23 Язык оригинала: Русский       #43
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The cost of works by famous contemporary artists today define clear criteria, sales statistics on the international market through respectable auctions, dealers and galleries over the years.
Also not so simple. Auction statistics for many current artists or not, or it is just being formed (few sales). A gallery-sales information was classified. Man in the street and the prices do not know. And about the "true values" - here the time will tell. The other garantirovannnogo recipe appears to have been invented.



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Старый 07.08.2009, 12:31 Язык оригинала: Русский       #44
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How to move the focus of successful and relevant technologies to advance challenges works ???,
The question of all questions. From the series "How to enter into the history of art?". There are lots of examples where good artists have been "buried" because of the tragic set of circumstances, provincial remoteness, bad times. Without some luck (Zdanevich interest) so much not sure what we would now know the same Pirosmani. Also examples of mass.
As an option - to believe that talent, his power strikes the road. Whatever may be said about Hearst, but the gathering of nearly there, it was clear that this phenomenon. In effect, by a bunch of energy. I do not deny the role of technology promotion, but when the heat pyshit, then and everything is clear. And who you have in mind?



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Старый 07.08.2009, 12:53 Язык оригинала: Русский       #45
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A contemporary art is now generally how much it costs?
Very interesting topic! But the level of prices of paintings can not be determined in a theoretical discussion. Price for painting has several components, but the main thing - it is level. And if he is young or unknown artists is comparable to more famous (I do not take the catalog, auction, etc. from this kagorty), then the price will differ by 30-50%. Here it is about the artists dealt with gallery, forming a price on art market. Gradually, the price can and catch up, but then they have become more famous
Interim period of growth is hard to predict. As far as artists are exhibited in gorsadah, streets and waterfronts (do not want anything bad to say about them), then there is the price formed by the buyer and its look, but how will it look with my favorite floor lamp. And the prices here are growing only on the basis of the dollar. Typically, the artist or works with a gallery or sell itself - here the combination is impossible (in my understanding).
I also work with little-known artists (and I like it more than the already known). Price in the market for them for a half-two years economic growth in two or three times ...



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Старый 07.08.2009, 12:59 Язык оригинала: Русский       #46
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And it turns that you do not buy now, and biography, the image of her to make.
All right, in the art business, evaluate only the name of the artist, all the rest vtorichno.Soglasen with Wladzislaw, a contemporary artist unknown, pay more than 300-400 u.e.smysla no.
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We, the artists, look at the technique, the plot and appreciate the professionalism of
The problem is that Chinese, Italian artists have filled up Russia's market painted posters of pictures .. (in the sense that is imbedded in this forum) can not call them is a souvenir products.
In ordinary people the notion of good painting just moved in this direction and the plot and technique such as high-level, and what is painted reproductions, many do not understand and tend to take this stuff (a nice baguette, stretcher, oil on canvas, the signature of all such is) .. and this is when prices for this gift products from 10000 to 30000 rub.V this basic problem of modern Russian (and not only), professional artists.
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PS Not so long ago showed the film, as the Chinese stamp these "pictures" on the day of poster paint 30-40 medium size ... So try to compete with them ..



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Without some luck (Zdanevich interest) so much not sure what we would now know the same Pirosmani. Also examples of mass.
I remember another example of your:
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Старый 07.08.2009, 13:07 Язык оригинала: Русский       #48
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As far as artists are exhibited in gorsadah, streets and waterfronts (do not want anything bad to say about them), then there is the price formed by the buyer and its look, but how will it look with my favorite standard lamp.
I confess that being a tourist and buy ten or fifteen years ago, production artists mentioned by the author quotes the ground, I came eventually to the idea that there is almost impossible to meet a real painting. Yes, you can find a fairly well made works, but mostly for sale that fits under the average tastes of the population. Another has a large amount of wealth of the frame.
Now, with the import of Thai-Chinese products, which we have already signed Russian names, the situation has worsened. These comrades go on Rublevke and other near Moscow highway, offering rolls of paintings for all tastes and styles in an average of 100 ve. And in some previously very decent galleries of up to half of these "paintings" recognizes an experienced eye.

Many commercial galleries are also forced to go on a leash in public. Make it more respectable and wealthy audience, which did not have a "hole in the wallpaper to cover up" and hang the frame over the fireplace, or on the advice of the designer, to create a light spot of a certain size and color. Interest 90%of the paintings, is relatively expensive sold in galleries, even with the names of famous artists, have little relation to art. After all are as student, as well as bad work, which the artist was too lazy in due time to redraw.

A good example - the distinguished Leonid Shishkin Gallery. They say that selling time. Fully agree. They sell the Soviet era, and not paintings. Much of them have only historical, but no artistic value.



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Старый 07.08.2009, 13:12 Язык оригинала: Русский       #49
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PS Not so long ago showed the film, as the Chinese stamp these "pictures" on the day of poster paint 30-40 medium size ... So try to compete with them ..
And with them, and do not have to compete. It's inevitable. But the artist "zhivopishet. And because he does it (how professional) and will depend on the demand for it. The problem is that young artists today want everything now ... And to show so far, nothing ...

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I confess that being a tourist and buy ten or fifteen years ago, production artists mentioned by the author quotes the ground, I came eventually to the idea that there is almost impossible to meet a real painting. Yes, you can find a fairly well made works, but mostly for sale that fits under the average tastes of the population. Another has a large amount of wealth of the frame.
Pyanadtsat years ago, still to be found there worthy artists (just had nowhere to go). Today. Incidentally, some of them are already known. Today there is, I agree, to meet those almost impossible.



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Старый 07.08.2009, 13:16 Язык оригинала: Русский       #50
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Unfortunately, the market dictates ... If thou doest discretion - that sharply narrows the range of potential buyers. If the artisans - the better you sleep and eat tasty. I've seen artists who followed this path, ceasing to be artists.

But to compete with Chinese products still does not work - in China the production is much cheaper.

Buskadoru:
Agree. I do have some gems from my travel period. But it is rather an exception. And the rest is only suitable for decorating the walls, postoroennogo for sale-lease.



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