Mark Rothko

[Meister]

Parameters number 15:
Oil on canvas. 233.3 x 203.2 cm
Painted in 1952.

Provenance impeccable:
Marlborough AG, Lichtenstein /Marlborough-Gerson Gallery, Inc., New York
Mrs. Samuel P. Reed, New York, 1969
Señor Don Plácido Arango y Garcia-Urtiaga, Madrid
Anon. sale; Sotheby's, New York, 17 November 1999, lot 24
Acquired at the above sale by the present owner

not sure that Rothko himself came up with what he was doing. I think it just developed the idea, as I said earlier, the same Kudryasheva example.

[JM-G]

I think that Rothko's work produced the greatest impression when they are many and they are in a closed dark room (as in Tate Modern). then the desired effect is achieved. but buy one painting Rothko - useful for the prestige, I think. I think he wrote his works are not for private collections, and for museums, as Bacon. on the wall of his works do not look: the dark. if we talk about my subjective feelings of Rothko's work, then I would say that his painting is like music darkwave.

[qwerty]

I think the success of Rothko, 99%associated with the names of galleries, vzyahshihsya, for his promotion. Actually, it was always so. For example, artists have come to the interests of Mr. Vollara (from Cezanne to Picasso), today is the unconditional first names, but those who refused to work with him (for example, Tarkhov) now occupy the seats at the best of the best rooms. Although at the time Tarhov fared better in the same Cezanne or Renoir. And if at Rothko in his time did not pay attention to Mr. Lloyd of Marlborough, I'm not sure that today we discussed this phenomenon at the forum. With regard to innovation Rothko, all these ideas were at one time quite thoroughly developed and described Matyushin with its youth movement.

[Vladimir]

qwerty,
Indeed, there are stained Rothko is something of an organic painting, but somehow hard to imagine a Rothko in the late 1940's studying the idea Matyushina. Lloyd drew attention to the Rothko, when he had already taken place, the famous and expensive artist. A major bulk "purchase", so to speak, Lloyd made after Rothko's death and, as we know from history, not entirely in good faith.
Another pointed out that discussion of Rothko handled on the third page. Would we talk for so long, if the artist was not interesting?
Given the information from Meister (1952, under three meters, positive gamma, provenance), I think that 60 million can receive. Record "White Center", I think, was interesting.

[qwerty]

Vladimir,
, Held, the famous and expensive artist Rothko at the time of death was worth 10-15 thousand, Lloyd for 15 years, raised rates 40 times, so that the merits gallerist undeniable. As Matyushina works, then it is not about organics, but the theoretical papers on the study of interaction of colors between themselves and these work in the twenties have been translated into German and published in Germany. So everything is possible.
One last thing: we have discussed so far Rothko, I think, not because of his talent, but as a typical representative of artificially hyped product. I am sure We discussed, for example, Basquiat or Condo, the discussion would take much time.

[Nik]

Сообщение от qwerty

One last thing: we have discussed so far Rothko, I think, not because of his talent, but as a typical representative of artificially hyped product. I am sure We discussed, for example, Basquiat or Condo, the discussion would take much time.

Absolutely! We therefore so long, and we discuss that we can not understand what caused such high prices. If the price in line with real artistic level, then it would be nothing to discuss. IMHO. But the discussion, however, interesting to hear.

[Vladimir]

qwerty,
Condo discussion about the support I can not (I did not like the past three-dimensional rethinking Picasso), but Basquiat - one of my favorite artists amazing coincidence. Admit it, people defending Rothko, you can immediately suspected of sympathizing with the graffiti-Expressionism? See Julian Schnabel film "Basquiat" (this is you like), sold in the e-shop.

17 thousand for Rothko in 1970 - is about 350 thousand in terms of today's money? Price held a recognized artist.

Could Rothko after the war, read the work Matyushina, published in 1920 in Germany? Theoretically everything is possible, nevertheless studied at Yale, but still unlikely ... The literature has never seen mention of Matyushin in connection with the works of Rothko.

Today, Sotheby's will sell the Prophet I Basques. 1981-1982. Acrylic on canvas, see Vol 241,9 x 150,8. Estimate: 10-15 million Lot 56. There have been better, but perhaps this is not good?

[Meister]

but not sold Rothko at Sotheby's, although the auction was more than successful. And Bacon for $ 86 million and Klein for 23, etc. That is what is that?

[Nik]

Yes, indeed, 38-th lot not sold. And once removed from the site of Sotheby's, that people do not disturb, I guess. But this site he was. Well done, that retain the data in advance.

Estimate was by request. Result - not sold. Funny. So think now about the selling price and under the artistic value of work.

Curiously, for how long now, this work will fall out of the auction sale? She is now sort of "tainted".

[Meister]

it simply results in no, but it hangs in the catalog so far. Interestingly of course, because prior to the auction Sotheby's screaming that she beat the previous record for Rothko, and there seems very little interest was not there. Or the people all of the money for Murakami with Klein spent. But this Rothko we certainly at least a couple of years will not see.