Degenerate Art? Art of degenerates!

[Nedogonov]

I - a new man at the forum, can therefore immediately rushed to the eyes that unhealthy paranyalny passions, which led to a discussion of Hirst's art, and which - truly repentant - himself succumbed. It reminded shootout Hippo in "a bad apartment».

Even the discussion of dermo-containing statements of tar, published in one of the leading Internet information portals Runet, and "abraded" in one of the tops, have not caused such a flurry of emotions, as variations on a theme dirty craft Hirst.

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How to turn a cornucopia, poured rotten, dirty, and unreasonable charges on each of the "warring" parties, but the paradox was that the work of Hurst, in general, no one has taken seriously, and did not share.

At best, the most tolerant forum users expressed that the art of something (in the historically formed his understanding), of course, "creativity" Hirst and does not smell. However, as a sociocultural phenomenon, it certainly deserves careful consideration.

It seems to me very rudely bacillus people and became actively proliferate at the time (or near the time), when the voiced phrase "degenerate art". And flew it to the topic with my keyboard, what, and expressed regret so far.

The fact that the concept of "degenerate art" was a result of processes is quite natural and logical, nominalizirovano, and then tightly tied to its meaning, to the destructive activities of the Nazis. Own is the meaning of the term with lost.

In essence, the term became taboo and people are already on a subconscious level, trying to push him away and "ban", using any means available, even foul language. On the original meaning of the term no longer remember.

This phenomenon is and his own inside. Everything that is designed to protect degenrativnoe art - green street. Same dared cast their vote for its rejection as soon possible to label the Nazis, fascists, hruschevista, putinista, Nashi, etc., etc., pr ... This is the stumbling block.

Therefore, "degenerative art" I will continue to be called "degenerate art" (ID), for support of degenerative art (literally, not in the Nazi sense) can only be an artist-degenerate (degenerate, as is known - is a sick man with signs of mental or physical degeneration).

Degenerate, because of deficits in its development and for a number of other reasons, has infantile, one-sided and rigid mental organization, sluggish, cold heart. Mental activity it can manifest itself only in the form of hysterical psychopathy (O. Kulik, A. Brenner and others like them perverts).

At the same time, these "artists", by virtue of their inherent hysteroid accentuations, easily suggestible, and therefore, they can easily manage that and make a great success hierarchy "International incompetence": guru of art-business and political strategists, "the curators of art."

The term "Internationale incompetence", by the way, is attributed to the poet J. Brodsky - unquestionably a genius, in spite of logic, highly esteemed by the ideologues of the most notorious of the "Internationale". What is the reason? Perhaps the desire to sit down next to the great, and maybe in the national identity ...

It does not matter. Himself as the "International ..." as the body is a direct continuation, genetic twin of that ominous Golem, homunculus, grown in the late XIX century, the Marxist-Trotskyist curly camarilla and now living preying on people's hearts, souls, minds.

Following this logic further, one can note that the foundation, the foundation of this evil, hate "International ..." and induced them to "degenerate art", triumphal procession on the planet, to start laying still in the era of the Reformation.

Then, the revision has not only the fundamentals of Christianity, but its reduced form - Catholicism. In the long-suffering Russia, echoing the Reformation, rolled, so-called historians, conspiracy Judaizers, whose consequences remain to this day (not as a consequence of "the principle of Butterflies") ...

Nevertheless, Russia, up to 90 years of the last century was, in Orthodox, indestructible essence, the last bastion of protection from the harmful effects of so-called metastasis, the Protestant ethic, with the agility of a monkey drawing the spiritual values in the "metal" ...

With the fall of the Soviet Union, who were the result of "liberal-democratic" revolution, which started and after that the pogrom and mockery of the national culture, religion and human values, CI is no longer "sub", and the dominant culture degenerates, "the streets" to take a crap in museums, public masturbate and fuck with animals ...

They applauded delighted "Internationale", they shall worship halls and exhibition areas, as they said the whole country and even shows on TV. At international exhibitions, fairs and biennials are just degenerates "Russian Art" that looks like an insult to the entire cultural history of Russia.

To return to Hirst. The risk of penetration this degenerate (others are smaller scale) in media and cultural space of Russia, as his nasty misanthropic, pat-psychological "art" consists not only in iconicity Hirst, but on the contrary - in its demonization ...

And then, and another - a kind of appeal, no longer only and not degenerate, but simply people with fragile and infantile spiritual organization. Thus, through agents, intermediaries, such as Hirst, "The Internationale" makes CI self-reproducing system and breeds, with the help of a feedback mechanism, new degenerates.

From now on, even without investing much money in contempt, koverkane and distortion of the art (and the remnants of Russian culture in general), you can sleep at night - the process is ... And soon, all creative people, nor their fans will shit in public places and carry over the tail of a cow carcass. And, most importantly, everyone will believe - it is art!

So I understand the reason for a hard-hitting situation prevailing in the Hurst-topic for a May Day session. This is natural. The question burning and the participants thoroughly lay on different sides of the barricades. So much the better. It would have nothing to discuss, if everything on the site were groupies.

Further suggest, nevertheless, willing to speak about whether there was a general in nature such a distinction, on opposite sides of which are art and «Art degenerates», and if there - how to grope her. No rudeness ...
 
Sincerely, Nedogonov.

[Veronic]

Сообщение от Nedogonov

[B]further suggests, nevertheless, willing to speak about whether there was a general in nature such a distinction, on opposite sides of which are art and «Art degenerates », and if there is - how to grope her. No rudeness ...
 
Sincerely, Nedogonov.

This face virtually none. And it does not exist not only in art but in everyday life.
Judge for yourself .... a little drunk is drunk or not? When the drinking starts, but when people just relax? Same thing with drugs, sex, smoking. Even the murder ... in a peaceful life for this plant, and the war give the order.
Everyone probably determines for itself the brink. When the same man he had already crossed it does not know and looking for justification for their actions.
Sometimes the whole company goes this line. Unfortunately, this is human nature.

[ВЯЧЕСЛАВ]

I do not know where, when and by whom was seriously discussed creativity D. Hirst, but not here. Rare attempts to understand in fact constantly interrupted by meaningless "picks on the brink of a foul."
Quietly, articulately say their opinion with the laconic justification or without-something really simple. And why not erect barricades and put "on different sides. Common unanimity in the search for truth should be avoided, and not strive for it by wiping out and humiliate opponents. And name-calling such as "ID".

[Veronic]

Сообщение от VYACHESLAV

I do not know where, when and by whom was seriously discussed creativity D. Hirst, but not here. Rare attempts to understand in fact constantly interrupted by meaningless "picks on the brink of a foul."
Quietly, articulately say their opinion with the laconic justification or without-something really simple. And why not erect barricades and put "on different sides. Common unanimity in the search for truth should be avoided, and not strive for it by wiping out and humiliate opponents. And name-calling such as "ID".

Artists of the past have left us the greatest masterpieces of painting, sculpture, architecture. Each of them was a titan and a genius.
What they see our descendants (if they still will be) after us? Genius zafarmalinil Hirst shark, which has a couple of years started to deteriorate and decompose. Buried her head diamond skull, which he did not even bother to build and ready to take a dead man. His workers created a cow intestines.
All the other amenities of modern art described Nedogonov, so repeat his words I will not. In general, a good legacy will our descendants will.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от VYACHESLAV

I do not know where, when and by whom was seriously discussed creativity D. Hirst, but not here. Rare attempts to understand in fact constantly interrupted by meaningless "picks on the verge of a foul".

Something here discussed.
http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showthread.php?t=8735

[ВЯЧЕСЛАВ]

Сообщение от Veronic

Every one of them was a titan and a genius.

I would like to draw your attention to the fact that today they are the titans and genii.Sovremenniki may happen, they are not, and even vice versa (a striking example, Dante Alighieri) lifted someone else. As his name? . Maybe DH sink into oblivion, along with molds and skulls.

Сообщение от Veronic

What do they see our descendants (if they still will) come after us?

If Chesney, in a global sense, the question for me is not a question! Personally, I convey to their offspring their individual vision mira.Vot such simplicity.

[Veronic]

Сообщение от VYACHESLAV

Personally, I convey to their offspring their individual vision mira.Vot such simplicity.

And the exhibition Hirst not drive?

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Сообщение от VYACHESLAV

I would like to draw your attention to the fact that they are today titans and genii.Sovremenniki may happen, they are not, and even vice versa (a vivid example, Dante Alighieri) lifted someone else.

Here hitch. Hirst's contemporaries considered a genius in the lifetime.

Now unfashionable to criticize. Poddakivanie kind of authority makes you a thoughtful audience. What if there really is something there, but I doubt fool ..... I'd rather like everyone else, would agree.

[Nedogonov]

Сообщение от Veronic

this face virtually none. And it does not exist not only in art but in everyday life.
Judge for yourself .... a little drunk is drunk or not? When the drinking starts, and when people just relax?

I agree with you, dear Veronic! But you decide for yourself had this face the opposition of "drinking - drinking. I also neustraivaet that drunkenness in such a situation, the logic of "facilitators" should become a standard.

This happens constantly and, in relation to alcoholism - too! So go now, and with beer bottles and children, and young mothers, and all those who have already accustomed to the "beer courage" curators "of other areas. This is - exactly what will happen to our art!

[Art-lover]

Not Lepo whether HN byashet, brothers, cling to the pure springs of folk art?

Modern art - a degenerative and nezhisnesposobnaya component of the global community. Modern art - pathetic, immoral, and immoral.
Modern artists - a mutant, a handful of moral freaks and degenerates.
Modern artists - cretins.
Treat them to be, all these "artists"!
Modern art - it is a spit in the face nomalnym people. For patients with more exciting world of ...
Modern art is hopelessly small!
Modern art - is a nightmare!
Crush all this rag-tag at Auschwitz! Modern art - it is cheap, false and sludge. Vysiry regular psevdohudozhestvennyh piles of shit.
Modern artists - losers, cocaine, and homosexuals who try to harm Russia, practicing Western grants. A contemporary art - it is dirt, filth, pornography and violent behavior, it shows the brutality, drunkenness, and necrophilia, and contrary not only to moral and human values, but also the laws of the State.
To shit in a museum - that's all that can be a modern artist. I feel sick from such art.
Modern art is suffering from impotence and masturbation! Deny it must tries!
Modern art - a miscarriage idiot fag, pregnant by the impotent!
Contemporary art seems to us immoral mask his deathbed grin!
Contemporary art can be rescued only by the guillotine.
...

The flow of people's anger, which systematized Pluttser-Sarno, is available for contemplation at http://plucer.livejournal.com/56438.html

Hopefully, this folk material completely override the theme, kindly initiated by Dr. Nedogonov th, and his conviction will save him from further efforts in the ungrateful herstologii science-like.

[Yaya]

Сообщение от Art-lover

Hopefully, this folk material completely override the theme, courtesy initiated by Dr. Nedogonov th, and his conviction will save him from further efforts in scientific-sounding ungrateful discredit the degenerative nature Hurst, herstokratov and herstoprodavtsev.

Art-lover, really. nEherst