Watery Russian section at the autumn Bukowskis

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David Gotsman, go head rushed into manure - I do not know. I do not care to walk with you on one of Odessa. (c): D

And you, uriart, I show three theatrical sketch, and one portrait.
Look at the manner Petritsky 20-ies.
1. Costume design for the ballet Medora Charles Adolphe Adam Le Corsaire.
Production in 1926 Moiseeva.
State Opera. Kharkov.
Collage, colored chalk, silver, gold, tinsel, ink.
50,5 H36, 2.
2. Costumes for the ballet "Nur and Anitra to music by A. Elias.
Production 1923 M. Mordkin.
Theater, Greenwich Village folliz. New York.
  2.a Costume design muzykaeta. 1923.
Watercolor, collage, pencil.
55,5 x39, 5.
  2.c. Costume design Nur. 1923.
Watercolor, collage.
55,3 x39, 5.
3. Portrait of the poet-futurist M. Semenko, 1929.
Watercolor, gouache.
National Art Museum of Ukraine, Kiev.

And another picture from the exhibition in 2006 in the gallery "Elysium" - «MONUMENTS OF RUSSIAN AVANT-GARDE THEATER. 1910-1930 »

A. G. Petritsky. Costume design warrior to the opera "Prince Igor" by Alexander Borodin. 1926.

ATjutchevtook their pictures here, I saw them, of course: http://www.books. interros.ru /? book=theatre & year = 1930
From the same article about the production and in the large "football players".
uriart, your opinion on these pictures and the manner Petritsky 20-ies?

[OlegTsi]

Сообщение от OlegTsi

If you find a photo forgery, necessarily exhibited together with the original.

I promised to find a photo with "Aguttes" (imitation Petritsky) and reproductions of the original. However, the original Cyril Syzransky ahead of me. Honestly, no idea how the original looks can and podskolznutsya ...

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Сообщение от uriart

you showed me a number of normal work and want to convince me that at Beech normal work. So?

No, not so. I'm talking about fraud in general did not say anything and the word "forgery" is not used.
And I showed "a number of normal activities" in order to illustrate his sentence of two (!!!) words from the message number 2 in the subject, which one party (too much attention to my person which I already embarrassed to be honest), and gave rise to the dispute about Petritsky advice me not to worry, but more to read books, go to museums, more interested in Russian art.
So you give me advice.

Сообщение от uriart

to admit his mistake, and everything. With whom does not happen.

But the advice we give the master and hunters ...
I am encouraged by your ability to monitor to determine the "hand of the manufacturer fakes. Perhaps it is this ability allows you to accurately acquire absentia (!!!) masterpieces at auction.
Well, not everyone can boast such a happy talent.

Сообщение от uriart

because I see the hand of the artist and see the hand of the manufacturer fakes. It is very well seen the handwriting of each.
And now about the pictures shown Oleg Tsi.
It also shows where forgery. Only an artist who has made it more professional than the one who made the forgery and placed on Beech.

I envy you in an amicable way.
I could comfort only one thing: not to me alone it is difficult to monitor, identify counterfeit and original graphics.

Сообщение от OlegTsi

Honestly, no idea how the original looks can and podskolznutsya ...

And tell me the words of the popular series is now "for Odessa": Senya, look around and sober Tremble.

[uriart]

Cyril Syzransky, determine the monitor can, of course!
Especially when you say that's fake, but the original.
When the task is so, so it's easier than you look at a piece of work put up for auction and you think, they say, but what is it. Bullshit or not?
And when the eye is trained on the normal work time is easier to distinguish from one another.
I never took the responsibility to attribute work.
Showed in the post, I expressed my opinion.
And the view is not the final result.
I think that this dispute can be completed, as this can last indefinitely.
Each party to the dispute has an opinion and express it here.
Do you think that Bukowski normal work?
It is your right.
But, still think you are mistaken.

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Сообщение от uriart

Do you think that Bukowski normal work?

No, I just said

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

Petritsky good.

We had to take the second word in quotes? I can not, because it is not defined on originality, authenticity, the authenticity, if you want

Сообщение от Tjutchev

this graphic sheet

He said only what he said two words! No more!

Сообщение от uriart

I never took the responsibility to attribute work.
Showed in the post, I expressed my opinion.

I also sometimes to express my opinion and if you can find so much time to see my posts for the year of my presence at this forum, you find not a categorical assertion, "this is not it" or, "it is a fake."
Yes, I can express some thoughts aloud, ask the author requests attribution any questions, more navodyashie, so he looked at the disputed my view points. No more!

[uriart]

Cyril Syzransky, my opinion about the work Petritsky?
I am not a lover of painting and graphics of avant-garde direction.
I think that my opinion here nobody wants.

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Сообщение от uriart

I think that my opinion here nobody wants.

I need exactly, and others, too, think it will be interesting to hear authority.
Compare:
"Football" with Bukovsky and "from Tyutcheva" and Work Petritsky is 29-th year.
Look, please.
All graphics that I have seen Petritsky was showing signs of work, the remnants of a pencil, you can often see half-obliterated the previous version, search the author, on the theatrical works of any notes, explanations, etc.
At the same pictures "from Tyutcheva" licked we see the pictures, some just "gift" sterility. I have some thoughts to explain this, but here they are, then stay with me.
Look at the portrait and on the players, look ...

[uriart]

And I'm curious to hear the opinions of experts on the work of Petritsky Sotebis.
See and speak.

[uriart]

Cyril Syzransky, so your question is more to this special someone available stock of work. To those who kept them in his hands. Probe and sniffed, as they say.
And in the photo you can see only difference and express their assumption, not more.

[мистер-у]

Сообщение от Tana

Kuindzhi not it?

You have correctly noted, it is not Kuindzhi.A lot, which is attributed I.Kramskomu-not Kramskoy.