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Старый 22.05.2011, 10:28 Язык оригинала: Русский       #1
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As far as I know, the Museum of Contemporary Art is not the case, as well as the museums' ever-relevant newspaper clippings. This is important. At least to try to analyze the essence of the phrase - the actual art. On what basis to classify the actual art is not clear yet - too true. "News" has ceased to be an adjective, interjection was: oh! A sort of conceptualism-branding. One only calms - actual art known mostly in Russia, but as you know, "we are ahead of the rest" and you never know - this is now a modern art relevant running tape in facebook. But sometimes a pity spent on the actual art of time - because of its availability to us even more relevant.

Previously, it was simple: classic - the right, and contemporary - to the left ... And then suddenly - Actually! In the good old days are not dead yet contemporary, a smooth transition into the classical. Relevance apply only to the role of a postman in the theater arts, where art - a way of alienation of reality in terms of its representativeness. Were only relevant news or satisfaction of hunger.

Until the end of 70 years of the twentieth-century art has yet enough money line exclusion in style. The last harvest
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this field was conceptualism, minimalism has come to replace. Postmodern bouquet "of flowers" has nearly a half-century is, in essence, an attempt to synthetic dressing dries out the soil of art. During this time, we saw four decades of artists who by now become quite difficult to distinguish in polyphonic orchestra simulacra. Became die for the sake of what the artist is engaged in art - a form which, in the words of M., is composed of "creativity and memories." While the ingenuity of students' understanding neofitskom tryukachestva still remained - with the memory, as a continuation of the line of formal findings and feeling the bottom of the iceberg shaped space, we said goodbye. This is a picture of the world.
Even worse picture of the native landscape. Insisting on its path has led us to the Land of the Lost aesthetics. Descendants of the formalists, all broken, rolled up, but not in the asphalt, and the bald vacant lots and roadside one-sixth of the land. Now their descendants are trying to contemporary art in pace stokatto replace contemporary art, leaving the future of the dust.

Russia - the country's intentions. Not measure, do not measure, and an indication of the measure as an indication of a weather vane on the wind. Recall that the essence of the wind itself is secondary - the reason is rooted in the temperature difference between heating zones - it creates a breeze. Let's try to think about it, talking about contemporary art - what processes it intends to express?

Become a replica of the wind, the bas-relief of his ten-flux - the task facing contemporary art. The classic, standing as such, has carved the image of wind profiles in the rocks over the centuries. News - shaking a yo-yo from each blow, and sometimes even spins around its axis, affected the wing of a random bird.

News - this is what minutely lacking, and what is refused immediately after receiving it. Modern Art claimed the length of time in at least five - ten years. It was «present perfect continuous», a remote distance from the present understanding - thus Mandelstam "memory". Classic, in this framework, was «present perfect simple». Thus, contemporary art through the prism of English grammar, appears incomplete action «present continuous», which is still ongoing, as are fried eggs, but can also burn.

Contemporary art is your time today, right now, for a minute now. It seeks not to miss the change of the rotation of an electron in a pulse of You Tube, different omnivorous, reluctance to generalize, is counting on fans of the news. In the information it is action, whose form is not so important, because immediately after it assumed the following "urgent action".

Artists looking for Zeitgeist, that is the zeitgeist that determines the basis of their creativity. As in literature, rhythm, texture of writing, the pace and composition are very important tools in the alienation of the image with respect to the prototype of reality. The artist certainly wanted the recognition by the public, but not enough to be understood "every cook." There is no socialist realist view of creators and those who saw art in addition to "rough language poster" is also most important task a catharsis-sverhprodukta. Previously, it was a club favorite and want to be elected to the club. People wanted to enjoy the game, a virtuoso violinist, but not bell-ringer at the actual fire.

One hundred years ago, Reid-made Marcel Duchamp said new way of expressing time, an adequate theory of relativity. Change the position of the text and context has changed a formal point. Narrative and decorative components have been minimized to the limit - they replaced the item. Nevertheless, it's message was not "on the urinal, a blank verse" of Being and dialectic transition low to high.
During these hundred years Conceptualism and Reid-made turned into a salon art, in a common place. Art, like him and predicted death or entirely turned into a classical phenomenon. Art became the promotion of art, branding the artist and his works. Entered the fray izoscherennye methods of socio-critical pugalkok who have motor move through fear and a sensation as a television news. Shock of the form is no longer valid, the public is ready for anything, works just frightening the latest news or important high price - is also news, mesmerizing, like a boa constrictor rabbit.
But, as it is said: "God forbid live up to the day when all will be as bad as the newspapers about it».


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Oyyy, here we broke a lot of copies Http://halloart.ru/showthread.php/
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Contemporary art in the subjective representation P. Shugurova.

 
 He was a man who painted the canvas black box and put it on display in the corner of the room, as an icon. This happened in Russia. This gesture is defined direction for the art of the 20th century, as the conceptual, symbolic, beyond representationalism.

He was a man who bought it in manufactured goods urinal, took it to the gallery exhibited under the title Fountain and the famous. It was in France. This determined that the art will now be something that will be called art.

Another man, after the Great Patriotic War, after the German captivity, when he miraculously survived, always exhibited in galleries and museums, huge cubes of fat, and huge bales of felt that what he wanted in captivity. Englishman. That man realized his personal history as art.

Was a man every day of his life he wrote on the canvas. On the canvas he drew large numbers date to the day when painting. All my life. It was in America, the man was Japanese. He did this because he understood his life as a continuous act of creation.

There was another man who was walking home the morning after the night shift, and the idea came to him, asking all passersby, so they wrote him a notebook in a phrase: The Beauty will save the world, sign and date. It was in Vladivostok. And none of the twenty people met him not refuse. He did not call himself an artist, but we know that it was them.

So contemporary artists express their ideas. And if they should express them differently, if a form of expression as laid down exactly matches the idea?
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We tend to define art as the artistic expression of man's thoughts regarding the world, their place in nature, in society over time. History of art, we tend to see as a consistent development of human thought and artistic expression. We are not inclined to share the history of art in independent stages (such as pre-Christian history of art and, separately, the Christian world), to the person (say, Raphael is the Raphael, but Warhol is Warhol.) For us, this whole history of art process, in which Warhol-a logical extension of Raphael. Such an understanding of the past will enable us to understand what is happening today and now make predictions for the future. Of course, we are interested in a variety of other concepts, we carefully study them, but his concept of exhaustive and final, except that the amendments and additions to it.

So what is contemporary art? This art, which elects the subject of artistic expression of thought, any object or phenomenon, or substance. Professionalism is not a contemporary artist to create works of mastery of technique and improving their thinking, outlook. Thus the emphasis in the creative process is transferred to think the concept works. Blame the artist is a very special idea. To translate this idea in the material the author may no longer apply: the product can be assembled at the factory on the design, can be purchased in the household or grocery store, can only be named. The crucial question is: Why artist identified the subject of consumer protection and non-fiction made it into the medium of art, called it art, some of this idea?

It seems that the idea of ​​the artist, his personality has always defined the essence of art, but it is not. The value of the artist's personality is a historic achievement of the art, as the value of personality, there is a great achievement of the society. Primitive society was not aware of art. In the Middle Ages was an art, but it was not the author, the Renaissance recognized author, but only as a professional Executive. Avant-garde artist reinforced the value of personality, but the value was confirmed by the works. Contemporary art is not fully liberated from the complex product (the product-is a symbol of a certain policy, and economy is as strong capital investment), but progress towards the value of ideas and the depreciation of the product, clear and interesting.

The artist and the viewer are the same. On exhibitions are increasingly hear statements such as, I just can do, think of it! And it's true, is it difficult: to buy a tin shop and put it on the podium in the gallery. It's easy to do, but it's hard to understand this gesture as art, it is difficult and be considered a domestic action as an art-in the genius of the artist. It is as difficult as to realize a unique personality, and be aware of every human surround a person, understand their lives and the lives of every person, as a creative process, being committed every day. Imagine your life as a museum, art as something precious, and you will tap their advantages and disadvantages.

Many viewers offended by contemporary art, hurts that they do not understand, or what is art so far from the traditional ideal. The viewer seems to be that a modern artist like encroaching on the usual ideal, if it breaks. That's not true, all the artists to learn from the classic design, and consider these samples, as their base, their roots, and their art, they do not destroy, but represent an alternative. The ideal can not tolerate an alternative, but the weakness of the ideal. As for the audience misunderstanding, accusations of ugliness, ugliness, this conflict has always been, it is a guarantee of development. Classical works by Rembrandt and Caravaggio, in his time as shocking (to develop) the audience, as today's performnsy and installation.

Contemporary art tends to engage in dialogue with the audience ...

Thus, the ultimate goal of the transformation of art we see an ideal situation, when everyone understands its originality and freedom, and recognizes the same originality and freedom of every person on earth. To do this, we work, and many contemporary artists.



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Modern art in the subjective representation of P. Shugurova .
The viewer seems to be that a modern artist like encroaching on the usual ideal, if it breaks . That's not true , all the artists to learn from the classic design, and consider these samples , as their base , their roots , and their art , they do not destroy , but represent an alternative. The ideal can not tolerate an alternative , but the weakness of the ideal.

Contemporary art tends to engage in dialogue with the audience ...
L-ana64110, I wanted to show this work , looking for a suitable name for the topic and found it. I hope you do not mind, its expansion and development.
I like a lot of post-modernism , but increasingly they write that he "died ".
And like the fact that an artist who works in the spirit of the builds posmodernistskom complex associative chains . Proffers a kind of creative threads of kinship across time and age.
 So we often talk about their relatives in our irony, tenderness .
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Another man, after the Great Patriotic War, after the German captivity, when he miraculously survived, always exhibited in galleries and museums , huge cubes of fat, and huge bales of felt that what he wanted in captivity. Englishman . That man realized his personal history as art.
On habits like fraer , but that's for sure ... fraer
Around , like, Boyce, Boyce, but was German and was in Russian captivity ...
Riddle ...



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was a German and Russian prisoner was in ...
In English, sorry.
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Another person , after the Great Patriotic War, after the German captivity, when he miraculously survived, always exhibited in galleries and museums , large cubes of fat, and huge bales of felt that what he wanted in captivity. Englishman .
It remains only to clarify the question : Have ENGLAND The " Great Patriotic War" ?

According to my information , England participated in the Second World War.



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Our ALL > - current?

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Cool and symptomatic! >
a lot in recent years, almost every week somewhere something in that vein is opened. And no longer surprised that the work becomes more physiologic and more below the belt. But the phraseology was formed "on high", and it's very funny! >
When displaying the work, where the main feature - the genitals or at least well ... The author is vkrasivoy pose, arms crossed and quotes Strugatsky said about how "difficult to go uphill."
And yet there is necessarily a boy or girl and say that it works "makes you wonder," some lady say that it is art - an alternative to the gray community.
This is the most interesting and remarkable. Yet we are very receptive to the text. It is necessary to wrap something (corny, imitative, boring, trite) to the appropriate verbal packaging, and many in fact are really ready to consume such a product. Although there is a typical counterfeit.
Especially sorry for this lady, who almost apologetically, had the courage to say: "I do not like everything."
But more and more importance is the reception.
Monitor the public on these boxes - my greatest pleasure. Such a range of emotions on the faces of such diligent efforts to portray the involvement and understanding. But in vain trying.
Actual artist usually arrogant and samovlyublen, so that even a very diligent and "understands" the viewer is still in the game will not take, and the table is not called. In the best case will stand up and be photographed next to the maestro.

PS. More of the chips last time, when the steepest public relations move, the most compelling argument in favor of consistency ARTIST - when it anywhere "exhibition closed."
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In English , sorry. >

Yes, it was shot down over the Crimea his plane , but it was a 43- m * and the peninsula was still under German occupation.
Yes, indeed. Shot down what I remember, as he described his stay in his wounded state of the Crimean Tatars . But that was not captured - they simply picked up and nursed the wounded , until he found the Sonderkommando . Actually it was his stay in the Crimea , and laid the foundation " Russian-Tatar line ," he (felt and lard).



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