Modern Painting and the problem of attribution of paintings

[Pavel]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy

What about Netherlandish painting XVI-XVII centuries., For example? And the market was, and art was a lot. No?
And if you do look at the Renaissance XIV-XVI centuries. " Where market relations in the arts into all went, nobody orders a gift, even fathers are not fulfilled. All through the money. <!--~ A ~-->

The names would Netherlanders, and then the words, words.

[Fed]

Сообщение от Konstantin

Where exactly (shop, gallery, etc.). And for whom specifically (name of the artist) all?

Specifically, - this Arrangement (paper, gouache) - 24000 euro.
 Especially cite this extreme example of the author, knowing that fans and cast irons happily collected, and if the name - the attack on the foundations of the universe.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Conditor

However, this does not suggest that such musical instruments are not commodities and that the relevant market does not exist.

Market musical instruments exist. But this hits the market, sorry for the banal, Stradivarius violins, the site was free. They have long had their owners (often the musical foundations or companies) who "borrow" their greatest violin virtuoso of his time. Some violins and names are the names to play them geniuses, Oistrakh, ex-Oistrakh, Kreutzer, etc.
To buy, for example, violin Spivakov, lawyers patrons who gave money to buy inmtrumentaoformili so-called society-a society, which includes family patrons. Under the contract, they have equal shares. Stradivarius Violin transferred Spivakov for lifetime use. When the tool returns to the owners, their heirs will share the cost of a violin.

The last time the auction Christie's New York in 2006, sold and sold, as they say after five minutes of bidding, for $ 3,544,000.
And a violin-ex-Elphinstone 1684 year now sells Guarneri House.

[Conditor]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy

Market musical instruments exist. But this hits the market, sorry for the banal, Stradivarius violins, the site was free. They have long had their owners (often the musical foundations or companies) who "borrow" their greatest violin virtuoso of his time. Some violins and names are the names to play them geniuses, Oistrakh, ex-Oistrakh, Kreutzer, etc.
To buy, for example, violin Spivakov, lawyers patrons, who gave the money to buy inmtrumenta, have drawn up a so-called society-a society, which includes family patrons. Under the contract, they have equal shares. Stradivarius Violin transferred Spivakov for lifetime use. When the tool returns to the owners, their heirs will share the cost of a violin.
Vadim Repin plays on the Ruby 1708, and earlier (before 2005-th) played Pablo de Sarasate .
The last time the auction Christie's New York in 2006, sold and sold, as they say after five minutes of bidding, for $ 3,544,000.
And a violin-ex-Elphinstone 1684 year now sells Guarneri House.

Absolutely! And nobody in the absence of market good violins Stradivari not squeeze consumers for crazy money knocked off in the form of tablets box with the strings and does not say that this amazing-sounding violin no one has ever heard (and will never jam, because, again, there are objective Methods of assessing the quality of tools). And the art market successfully cram!

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Conditor

No one on the market in the absence of good violins Stardivari not squeeze consumers for crazy money knocked off in the form of tablets box with the strings and does not say that this amazing-sounding violin no one has ever heard (and never will cram because, again, there are objective methods for assessing the quality of tools).

"Boxes of plates, no, of course, but modern tools make full and electronic and all sorts of unusual, what is required for the performance of contemporary music.

[тандем]

Сообщение от Fed

This is the point of advertising the sale of goods or the museum?:" Art-Salon "Aeneid" - works by contemporary authors: painting, ceramics, stone and bronze souvenirs.
Address: Odessa, str. Most Arnautskaya "
And here's a link to the gallery http://pokartinke.com/"If you want to decorate your home, transform your office, liven up the interior of your apartment, then you have to us: If you are confused in choosing a dignified and original gift, then you, too, to us! "
This is not advertising?
"If you are interested in selling paintings by Georgian artists, if modern art and oil paintings evoke admiration for you ..." etc. -

What is it you do not like - the fact of the advertisement, how is it compiled?
Do you think information about the sale of paintings unacceptable, contrary to the moral law (if you can specify how exactly)?
Think that any information about the sale of paintings should be banned?
Sale of paintings should be prohibited?
Art that does not appeal to you to be banned?
And what to do with the creators of this painting - to prohibit?
And with the sellers, something to fight and punish?
......... You are here dashingly have investigated cheeses, items of ladies and fodder for zhivotnyh.Tak may be this is your theme and calling?
A painting would be better left alone - who should himself will understand that love, why buy or not buy.
And God forbid all of the wise men with fixed ideas, even if they do not permit in his pocket and a certificate from the Medical Institution.

[Fed]

According to the delirious, the certificate is not for nothing remember, but if you remember on the topic - you answered that the painting trade is not roulette, and business, which has the conventional advertising approaches, like any other business.
  

[Pavel]

Сообщение от Fed

According to the delirious, the certificate is not for nothing remember, but if you remember on the topic - you answered that the painting trade is not roulette, and business, which has the conventional advertising approaches, like any other business.
  What kind of painting must be banned ...? What do ... Read the texts.

This is just another business and requires a deep knowledge and love of art.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy

"boxes of plates, no, of course, but modern instruments made in all electronic and all sorts of unusual, what is required for the performance of contemporary music.
At barrochnom instrument jazz or fusion, for example, do not play.
each vegetable, a fruit. (c)

So I did not understand how such a market was in the Netherlands at that time and what it all end?

[Fed]

[Pavel]