Digital painting, prospects

[NATA NOVA]

Roman Guro, I'm just going to throw off your инфу pro contests (etc.) kompyuernye ..
Of course, it is he art
In any case, many have already come across in a graphic competition (visual humor, bookplates) upminanie. that comp. Graphics also involved.
Threat: .. as well as the residence and grants (worldwide) ..

[Черномашенцев Владимир]

- Work still exclusive, that is - is not a reproduction, the other does not, and is not a photograph, and the man-made work of the artist.

- If the artist is not an idiot he will kill the value of their work, and print it unspecified stake. time

- It is easily adjusted copyright agreement with the buyer to sign by the artist undertook not to publish or use the work again. Since coming to work in order for the publisher and all beautiful works.
In the end, you can simply delete the file

- In art, not a few examples. The bronze sculpture can be cast multiple times, engraving printed many times, but this does not prevent them from remaining works of art and rise in price.

The work can be, and exclusive, but the result of work can be replicated a million times. The result of your work you can just compare with reproduction. Several millions of pixels arranged in a particular order ...

The artist is not an idiot? But if you really want? Or will the customer with the money? Believe me, the best artists are trying to repeat their old plots. For various reasons: too lazy to invent new or not, there is an order to repeat, I want to improve ... Fortunately, in this painting of repetitions at 100%identical does not happen. This is influenced by several factors: mood and emotion of the artist at a given time, lighting, material, age of the artist and his experience. Your work can be repeated millions of times, in fact, with the advent of new technology the print quality can be better and better than the first print. Replay can be made is not necessarily to your liking, for example, an attacker opened your computer. File can not be completely removed - it is easy to restore specialists. And anyway, with contracts in our country is difficult ....

In art, there are no such examples as you think, comparing the seal with the lottery drawing. To cast a sculpture without loss of quality can only X times - and they will all be a little different. Prints can also be done only X times without losing quality. In some prints, each print is unique and strongly depends on the skill printer (not the author!). And above all - print is much cheaper than painting with the same artist and with the same fomate.

No, not yet persuaded to pay for your print the price that you have made!
Wanted you price in thousands ve. relevant to the original painting with a similar format of good modern artists.
And no gel will not help to raise the price - it's even funny to listen!

[Roman Guro]

Chernomashentsev Vladimir,

The work can be, and exclusive, but the result of work can be replicated a million times.

And may not be)

No, not yet persuaded to pay for your print the price that you have made!
Wanted you price in thousands ve. relevant at the original painting similar format of good modern artists.

Maybe you did not understand, but I are already paying such a price for custom work.
Price is not taken from the ceiling.
It is clear that for the creative work of the same or better quality, I will not put a price below.
And I pass the file conclude copyright transfer agreement.
The scheme is already running. It works povsemestvo in any industry, which is somehow connected with intellectual property.
No one is afraid that I re-selling the file, since this question has been settled legally. Yes, and its own reputation is worth a lot.
It was a couple of cases of commercial use of my work (taken from the previews site) without permission, both times were decided in my favor.
So that everything is fine) This is not a problem.

You know, for 10 years in the industry I had never done repetitions
But in the end the repetition can be drawn anew, with a white sheet, and not to use the same file.

PS. Of course, the file can to remove completely. But hackers are not so powerful, they should not be afraid)

[Черномашенцев Владимир]

Сообщение от Roman Guro

Price is not taken from the ceiling.
It is clear that for the creative work of the same or better quality, I will not put a price below.
...
You know, for 10 years in the industry I had never done repetitions
 

If everything is so good and expensive, why do you this small-town forum? Ads here do not, I assure you. Find buyers for your goods - too. Would you Shishkin, Dejneka or Stozharau at reasonable prices ...

However, success in your work!

But Frankly speaking, such a youth, I saw nemeryano kitsch. In this style like to draw illustrations for science fiction or fantasy in good Western publishing houses. And in Russia succeeded. For example, something like that makes hudonik-illustrator Denis Gordeev, just oil - it's faster turns.

 Not interesting - a mix of photorealism (which had long been his breath back) and romantizma. And do not it could cost your price tags. 100 Lowe - ceiling, but still need to find a buyer. However, for 100 euro to run away themselves.
In anticipation of your possible injury and claims to the criticism, please look at my signature at the bottom of any of my messages.

I must repeat what I just wrote on a nearby branch to another man, thirsty critics:

Your paintings are great for self-taught, but they can not enter into the history of painting. You confuse the industry and the arts. A successful job in advertising to give a similar effect in the picturesque srede.Hotya, for a certain category of customers they will enjoy success - a bright, impressive, cute. For another category of potential buyers effect may not last more than 1-2 seconds. It depends on the degree of preparation of the viewer. I had the 0.5 sec.

[Любознательный]

Roman Guro, "A computer can not do anything - it is just a tool.
It's like saying, 'Give me a good brush, and I become an artist "
DO NOT distort.
First, without a computer Your work could be created in the form in which they exist. And the conversation that would not take place. And the forum as well.
In this case, your co-yavlyatsya large number of people (starting with Wiener), who can not (could not) draw and do not own a brush.
Without their work you could never create what is created.
And this must be remembered.
Secondly, the idea that mastery of the art of using a brush is itself (inside the artist) - usual chimera.
I have seen during the Soviet era in art colleges imported herds of friendly countries. And those who had no idea not that on the drawing or painting, and even the existence of artistic brushes as such. However, they have become artists. Thanks to the talent of their teachers and the presence of the creative heritage of their predecessors. The process appeared and the perception of peace and self-awareness and self-expression. Everyone - the creator, even if it is not an artist. Of the 10 000 artists of the golden century Netherlandish painting, until we heard a couple of hundred. And not all of the fallen into oblivion were less talented or brilliant.
Third, computer technology (such wording you are more satisfied?)
developing rapidly. I am one of those who saw the BESM-6 and Nairi, and today working on your computer is not in ALGOL. Many people do not know, and some have already forgotten this abbreviation.
Will not the way that a few years, your current work will look like rock drawings (in the sense of form)?
Any potential buyer must be sure to return.
To purchase this type of work as an investment and for aesthetic pleasure himself and his descendants.

So we went back to the main issue - sales (demand).
Perceptions of the poster as a kind of original - yet for me to complete nonsense.
Why collect? Ordered posters and got a full house of the best works of all time.
Cheap and strong.
Do not have a hammer head problems separation of money from businesses for the purchase of antiquarian; bother preservation work and their safety (not free), not to mention personal safety, as well as the safety of their loved ones; ekpertizami and restoration work, the continual expansion of the terms of their knowledge.
There will be not only extra money for business (which will never be redundant), and most importantly - finally will be free time for beer and fishing, not to mention the other (equally interesting) classes.
You propose to acquire their work for a certain amount.
I - in business, and understand perfectly well that your work I ever told anyone not selling.
Because the hacker prices always be lower than you.
For YOUR same job.

Sorry, that hard.
Again, I personally like Your work.
But I'm not ready to accept poster (falshak - in my understanding) for a work of art. Timeless art. The other I do not buy. Togo, which is not art
I do not want operating systems that came out of use.

Therefore you to decide: to continue the work with computer or return to the real brush.
In any case,
luck!

[Roman Guro]

Сообщение от NATA NOVA

Roman Guro, I'm just going to throw off your инфу about competitions (etc.) computer ..
Of course, this art
In any case, many have already come across in a graphic competition (visual humor, ex libris) reference. that comp. Graphics also involved.
Threat: .. as well as the residence and grants (worldwide )..

Nat, thanks of course)
But you somehow check my site under "about me"
For many, where he participated. I'm not empty-handed.

What is art, I understand.
And even have to confirm in the world.
There is more a matter of commercial expediency in our reality.
Because if the best butter, the butter too, and I can know how to write)
The material is crucial.

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While such a picture emerges:

1. If you move the digital painting here, not alone, but form a line.
Something like "Association of digital artists.
Then there is a chance to run out on the course and an adequate assessment.
But it requires a serious investment of time and money, and does not guarantee the result.

2. Moving digital painting exclusively abroad.

3. Painting in oil.
Actually the easiest solution)

[Черномашенцев Владимир]

Сообщение от Roman Guro

1. If you move the digital painting here, not alone, but form a line.
Something like "Association of digital artists.
Then there is a chance to run out on the course and an adequate assessment.
But it requires a serious investment of time and money, and does not guarantee the result.

2. Moving digital painting exclusively abroad.

 

You're absolutely right - this can be moved only in America, more precisely in the U.S.. But there are willing to pay millions of dollars for the injured Photoshop image. I hope that Europe had not matured yet.


In order not to pour back into a sieve, so similar theme:
http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showthread.php?t=49561

[Posav]

That thought, that there are issues about the uniqueness of the product, ie not visible hand touch, it is not clear what to do with the notion of "original" if all these pixels are copied. Smears not skopiruesh. There is also the problem of authorship. Since this pixel, then how to prove that they're yours? Since there is no unique identity, then this work can be done by anyone and anyone named by the author. I recently read that Dubosarsky Vinogradov and the kitchen boy sitting at the computer and makes erections Tipo tolerate other heads on the classic work, then they will increase, podmazhut and will be their job, but they at least increase the matter themselves and podmazhut.

[Peter]

You see, I was a principled opponent of this kind of "art." I consider it one more step towards utrachivaniya the art that comes from the simultaneous experience of the artist in the process rukodeliya.Eto "art" brings people closer to robotic sostoyaniyu.Uzhe forgotten art of writing when writing bunal emotional energiticheskuyu component ."... letter was written with a trembling hand, in some places the ink blurred ... "That we are unlikely to see and what pochuvstvuem.A energy in an exquisite painting of handicraft embroidery, in the present painting in the late kontsov.Seychas e-mails with "OK" and "Before the connection." There is a difference? "The same with a digital" painting ". When the turner had carved on a lathe, even complex parts that would only be a soulless zhelezka.Dazhe if this machine Computers . I can not stop this slide into emptiness and impoverishment iskusstva.Ya forced to live by those rules, but I'm sorry that after a number of years of the term "digital painting" disappears, the word "digital" because the other paintings will be gone.

[Roman Guro]

Chernomashentsev Vladimir,

If everything is so good and expensive, why do you this small-town forum? Ads here do not, I assure you. Find buyers for your goods - too. Would you Shishkin, Dejneka or Stozharau a favorable price ...

This is a "good and expensive" to your opinion.
This does not mean that we should not develop further.

Advertise I do not need. What created the topic, read the first message.
Part of the answer to your question was, I want more opinions from different people.

not interesting - a mix of photo-realism (which is a long time getting his breath his) and romantizma. And do not it could cost your price tags. 100 Lowe - ceiling, but still need to find a buyer. However, for 100 ye yourselves will flee.

Hmm. I did not think that'll pick here at such an inadequate assessment)
As for price tags.
I voiced price tags on commercial orders. A reference to the result.
You are obviously very far from the industry.
Illustration of the artist middling worth 300-400 USD
Concept characters in color can cost 500-600 and 800 USD
Serious poster or cover 1000-1500 and 2000 USD
Depends on the brand, the company, the steepness of the artist and the volume of work.

By such rates are working a lot of good digital artists.
And abroad, they are much higher.

That is the question here does not sound how "good and expensive" for me,
but rather, do so bad in the art of classical?