30 years of Picasso, Chagall, Warhol's fake, especially the "autolithographies" ...

[Wladzislaw]

Сообщение от SergeiSK

beginner collectors!
Nobody will listen to and buy copyrights lithography great artists! The same Chagall, Dali, Miro, Picasso, AE Yakovlev, Bogayevsky and others buy them at normal auctions and everything will be fine. This is a relatively small money you will be able to properly start your collection and it was with the first names. If you listen to all opinions about fakes, then and not have to start collecting anything.

Exactly! During 20-50 th you can collect a very complete collection of first names. Art is not limited to oil on canvas.

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Сообщение от Meister

SergeiSK, probably even if it is a fake, good, real Chagall lithographs now cost between 10 thousand and can reach up to 30 ... More palest hue can certainly and 3 -- 5 cost, but if it is more interesting lithography, it is less than 10 can not simply cost ...

Signed and numbered lithographs by Chagall are from 2 to 40 thousand USD.

Within the 2.5 thousand faces lithography former inserts in books and art magazines.

Separate implementation of the signed and numbered lithographs are usually between 6 th

Signed and numbered prints (again, from the books) can be purchased for 1,5 - 3 thousand USD.

We must not forget that the prices may be lower, as dealer sales - not retail.

[Евгений]

Сообщение от Wladzislaw

complete collection of first names

  Falshakov .. agree lithograph Chagall, Dali, Picasso and novice collectors? (Manilovism).
Here experienced art dealers can not understand .. you are a specialist, but soglasitis lithograph Chagall, Dali, Miro, Picasso, AE Yakovlev, Bogayevsky not so easy to attribute (especially a novice).
On your more level, then you can collect interesting, but You, is an exception to the rule.

Сообщение от Wladzislaw

Art is not limited to oil on canvas.

I agree completely, but lithographs, engravings, etchings collect even more difficult (and much more) than painting.

[Wladzislaw]

Сообщение от Eugene

Falshakov .. agree lithograph Chagall, Dali, Picasso and novice collectors? (Manilovism).
Here experienced art dealers can not understand .. you are a specialist, but soglasitis lithograph Chagall, Dali, Miro, Picasso, AE Yakovlev, Bogayevsky not so easy to attribute (especially a novice).
On your more level, then you can collect interesting, but You, is an exception to the rule.

I agree completely, but lithographs, engravings, etchings collect even more difficult (and much more) than painting.

You exaggerate and see problems where none exist. Attribution of work the big three (the most sold authors lithographs, Chagall, Dali, Miro), immediately and Picasso - does not pose any difficulty. All of these authors have catalogue raisonné.

With prints (printed lottery drawing), on the contrary easier. All the work well-known authors recorded in the directories and all authors of the first-second values of them have: Alechinsky, Bonnard, Braque, de Vlaminck, Calder, Leger, Lichtenstein, Magritte, Matisse, Moore, Stella, Tapies, Warhol, Utrillo, Francis, Hundertwasser, Chillida, etc., etc. Of the immigrants from Russia Empire: Archipenko, Rodchenko, de Stael, Zadkine, Jawlensky. The same was true for 19-y and the previous centuries.

With Prints problem in the manufacture of fake works, and in deception. For example: photographing a work of Chagall, made a lithograph of this work and proposed - lithograph Chagall, actually - is Chagall and a lithograph. They put numbers - already more expensive. But Chagall's signature is not placed, because it is another crime (such "lithographs of Chagall's" orgy of internet). Also at these lithographs of Chagall's art magazines raise rates, price increases, and such work written signature, even higher. And so on, vobschem can write an article about fraudulent prints. But, as such, it is a fake printed graphics are not much. Just need to synchronize with a catalogue raisonné, as do all known auction houses. And Christie's and Sotheby's holds auctions to sell spitsializirovannye printed graphics, if fear of fraud - buy it, prices will be higher than that of an art dealer, but not huge.

Some difficulties with directories, which themselves are very decent money, but they are there, they can buy, or purchase to request photocopies of pages from catalogs.

[Glasha]

Сообщение от SergeiSK

At the first 10-20 copies of lithographs in addition to the byline are usually letters EA They usually went to the museum or were given by the author.

And what do these letters? This is typical of the West or to Russia, too?

[SergeiSK]

Сообщение от Gala

And what do these letters? This is typical of the West or to Russia, too?

These letters stand for the first and best impressions. This is typical for the whole world, take the same Shemyakin. I think Wladzislaw better to answer this question, it is special.

[Wladzislaw]

Сообщение от Gala

And what do these letters? This is typical of the West or to Russia, too?

E. A. - Epreuve d'artiste. I know that the Soviet authors also signified their work. English-speaking authors put analog, A. P. (artist proof), but fewer letters, often a phrase, generally, over-used French decline. The best prints, according to tradition, no more than 10%of the circulation. Usually not for the initial sale. Later, of course, sold.

[Glasha]

Сообщение от Wladzislaw

autolithography and lithography - is the same. I have not seen anywhere except B. USSR, the term "autolithography. This is a kind of local specialties. Maybe used to distinguish it from lithographic illustrations in books. A autolithography "- as it is a complete separate copyright work of art. However, in Germany and France came out a lot of magazines and books with the included copyright lithographs and engravings. In one of the numbers of "Apollo" were colored engravings copyrights Falileeva.
Lithograph made by the author and is autolithography. It may be signed, signed and numbered or signed, the prices because of this differ.
True, there is a refinement of deception when making a real lithograph of a painting by famous artist, I already wrote that such "Chagall lithographs, many on eBay.

Wladzislaw, moved to the subject, so as not to interrupt the interesting discussion
Thank you, I understand. I probably still tongue-tied, though not like a curse, I'll try again.
When no byline, more correctly called simply lithography, as know exactly who it published, because the mass of such cases, when the form is, the stones in the workshops, in particular, lithography, Konstantin Rudakov, the son who remained stone.
Avtolitogrfiya-guaranteed impression made by the artist, as evidenced by his signature issue ..
I do not understand why in this lithograph Shuhaeva no signature of the artist, a sort of label printing, and declared as cars and this price, because it could be printed by anyone? Maybe its author and not holding hands?

Incidentally, in Germany there is a term autolithography just forgot how to write.