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15.07.2011, 17:47 | Язык оригинала: Русский #11 | |
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http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showpo...&postcount=802 " Samokatist " was proposed in the Paris auction house for 400,000 euros. |
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15.07.2011, 18:10 | Язык оригинала: Русский #12 |
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I am not surprised when the forum members share photos and discuss the paintings to their authenticity , vote and decide , as the meetings of the Committee Kandinsky - to include the work in the catalog , it is reasonable or not to include.
I sincerely wonder Irina Lebedeva ( which is not personally familiar ), and James Andrew Sarabyanovu Battervinku ( which sign) , when they were leafing through the book , both Parton and Bazetu divide the published work on "clean" and "dirty ." Stanislavsky would say " do not believe it." Well, would say " in my personal opinion ," " I believe ," "may ". By the way it was I who suggested to the publishers ' catalogs fake black "to include the word in the title and print it the largest in CAPITAL LETTERS. And what you've heard about at least one lawsuit against us all well-known author and publisher ? I read a letter signed by Lebedeva, and felt a hand GTGshnogo Counsel not familiar with European and American laws on freedom of speech , copyright, and others. But this is - is another story. |
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15.07.2011, 21:35 | Язык оригинала: Русский #13 | ||||
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Yes I have one complaint about not listening. Some cherish and others will not , but claims there is generally no . Цитата:
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15.07.2011, 23:38 | Язык оригинала: Русский #14 | ||
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And you or you are not outraged public? Added after 2 minutes Yes, we already do with you. Do a search in google "fake Goncharova" in English and see what pops up. I think it is not enough. The same "fake Burliuk" yes a lot already. Последний раз редактировалось Konstantin; 15.07.2011 в 23:41. Причина: Добавлено сообщение |
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16.07.2011, 20:52 | Язык оригинала: Русский #16 |
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My answer to Constantine:
Of course I do not think that in both books are of impeccable and, moreover, convinced that there is a fake. Also, have not really sure what the reasons Andrew Sarabianov or Confederation persuaded everyone. Given that I'm not going to criticize them - their opinions I respect. But the proposed option obhait everything published works are not legally nor any premlem "iskusstvlvedcheski." Voting such issues simply can not be solved. Kindergarten one! Those present at the press conference, overwhelmed with good intentions (though there are other motives, but is a separate issue), set and publicized the right question about questionable number of published pictures. But neither to resolve the problem it does not. In my view,a positive result of this hype is just that, in each case to provide any pictures of her Goncharova for sale will need further investigation. In this course should be taken into account all available information, including the monographs published in Bazetu and Parton, TG and Center Grabar, Pospelov and Sarabianov and any critic who commented on the specific job. Private business auction house or private lichtsa trust one or the other authority. Western community do not care expertise of Russian experts and Russian buyers - are not interested Bazetu. But even there, and there are the really important information, research, archives, etc. And I repeat my opinion: tying the war without being sure of victory, not reasonable. I did not see any prospects of winning until the press conference, the participants' perspectives and loss are evident, as there is no objective evidence of the authenticity of the allegations of "experts" 60-70%of the published pictures, the lack of specific names in the provenance, and the designation "private collection" - this is absolutely normal and perfectly acceptable form of origin of works of art. Moreover, market professionals do not once have seen and will see where in the description of an object is, such references are repeated several times, suggesting that the subject is repeatedly passed from one private collection to another. Sovdepovsky approach to the "registration and residence permit" in the West will not ever! It is the story of collecting works of art in the Soviet Union and Russia confirms this argument - many exhibitors' collections of collectors "were either looted or against them, the MIA and the KGB inspired criminal cases ended in the confiscation of their collections, traces of which still have not been found. And just this criticism the authors of these two books discredits all their arguments, both for its emphasis. By the way Bazetu answered on the site at this reproach, and answered quite well (I would say better, but it's not my job). |
16.07.2011, 20:58 | Язык оригинала: Русский #17 | ||
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Why? There are no other arguments? You still remember the gulag . Added after 1 minutes Цитата:
Her answers are designed just for prospective buyers of its books falshaka. Последний раз редактировалось Кирилл Сызранский; 16.07.2011 в 20:59. Причина: Добавлено сообщение |
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16.07.2011, 21:00 | Язык оригинала: Русский #18 | ||
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And you have the answer to your question? Or at least a suggestion? Added after 3 minutes Цитата:
I agree with you completely in this. Последний раз редактировалось advokat; 16.07.2011 в 21:04. Причина: Добавлено сообщение |
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22.07.2011, 23:05 | Язык оригинала: Русский #19 |
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For several days, check my topic, and not get tired of wondering how she changed in her eyes: just this morning was a message from an article about Artem PO Avena in "ArtChronika» № 6-7, 2011. Not too lazy, went out, bought, read, and the messages are no longer ...
Nevertheless, speak for their own beliefs and about the article, and on the discussion: Yes, Peter O. loudly said: "The government should initiate something to investigate," etc. But he also made it clear to collectors that they need to have a head on their shoulders and checking provenance, while the state ... all of the above. In my opinion, another badly - very badly, that our esteemed critics from the Russian Museum, and Andrei Sarabyanov, before criticizing others' publications - do not consider it necessary to correct factual errors even in their own publications ... It is a national disgrace. In this regard, very much like to know which of Russian art works of Natalia Goncharova worked after leaving Russia?? And if someone is doing, he probably knows that the last wife, Larionov is not so fond of everything that is connected with its predecessor, which handed out right and left not only the work of Natalia Goncharova, but also of his brother Mikhail Larionov - Ivan . Thank you, that even in the trash does not throw ... |
23.07.2011, 01:29 | Язык оригинала: Русский #20 | ||
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That 's it - a real national disgrace. |
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