Russian art market for contemporary art in terms of marketing

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Сообщение от K-Maler; 2916771"

Now everyone is afraid that they "do not understand " ...

And rightly so afraid , because do not really understand .

Сообщение от K-Maler; 2916771"

Some time ago, ordinary educated people bought what attracted and it was right .

In the USSR , for example , and formed out did not understand , was not available to present art, everything stopped for itinerant and their socialist variant.

Сообщение от K-Maler; 2916771"

From large exhibitions washed segment of realism ... he not only welcomed, but it almost is accused of ...

Сообщение от K-Maler; 2916771"

From large exhibitions washed segment of realism ... he not only welcomed, but it almost is accused of ...

Not " blame ", I think , and just say bad taste . Nobody blames the same love for chanson there or to Stas Mikhailov , but it is impossible to listen to people to hear something now , and even confessions of love songs like creativity should really be ashamed .

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran ; 2916791"

. For many Nikas Safronov - outstanding domestic artist and comrade . Shilov - so just a genius .

Well, let them buy it , and you buy the other , which " understand " - this is an extension of the market ... With real , no tricks market " kittens on trays " are all happy ... You want to limit the people in the choice ? Shilov seems genius because people have long valued " madeness " work, and in this Shilov not refuse ...

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Сообщение от K-Maler

You want to limit the people in the choice?

No, I just note the denseness of our customer and understand the nature of the "offense" artists "realists."
A selection ...
And what might be the choice?
Of what?

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Сообщение от K-Maler; 2916851"

Shilov seems genius because people have long valued " madeness "

Appreciated rather say. But with the advent of photography do paint oil that is obtained by clicking the camera ... But why? Someone may flea shoe , look people in the tabs on mickyscope blogs horseshoes , poahayut - poohali yes and spare crank spent so much time and effort to this " marvel , wondrous miracle ."

[mihailovoh]

Sight- buyer
Deduce the brackets grafiku.smeshannuyu технику.скульптуру.оставляю only painting . mk is more difficult to understand and " exploitation." Market would not to.chto ogranichen.on nichtozhen.Vse all know unless lichno.to through mutual zakomyh.a dealers and galleries not consider mk they are drives with very vague perspektivami.chto will with a mass of papers in the case ....... where and how they will be .
The bulk of purchases for interior decoration and podarkov.kak rule does not include the same dorogoe.syuda Internet pokupki.No zdes.kak understand. This applies to izoproduktsii.no namely it gives the basic turn in items.
Shopping for prestizha.dorogoe . But for a very narrow segment of buyers and most importantly single pukupki
Purchase unique " oligarchs " in their tselyah.Pokupki as investitsiya.blizko to nulyu.ne in dengah.a in pieces of course.
Shopping and professional художниками.искусствоведами kolektsionerami.zdes price dispersion and tastes ogromen.no segment of buyers is limited (add material resources are limited in the majority ) . in the piece, a very significant
The most interesting kollektsionery.Obychno they begin to collect. Either that since childhood and only a part of them goes to zhivopis.Proydya way of buying local and hudozhnikov.zdes ostanavlivayutsya.Tolko One unit move in buying the work of artists . Here and the level of prices and malodstupnost . That want ( and not so. offer that ) . already " loaded" lack drugim.i place to "hang . store " .... In shtukah.pokupki purchases are redkimi.Reklama.marketing role minimal role mk buyer prepared and knows . what he wants.
Plays an important role location buyers. money osnavnaya sale in Moscow. ... but in pieces " izoproduktsii " in the regions.
Another interesting thing ( I looked katalogi.albomy ...... those who collects and trades while ) substitutability work for 6-8 years and 75 percent almost all the rest of the same buyer has prodayut.esli certainly. those who simply collects substitutability is practically zero .
Do artists have not most of the work . Nor when that did not sell and diverges only after they left ( it does not. Expensive that I bought 20 years from then . When it is not pushed through at all)
My output surface - trade oriintirovatsya painting should only need one or another artist successful bidder needs to work on his sebya.na talant.Raspredelenie value-added business simple commercial contract between the artist and prodavtsom.ne more .

[iosif]

mihailovoh, I personally think that the gallery owner , the vast majority of acts of sales should be a therapist , and even without the quotes (of course, when we are not talking about a serious investment) . His task - to understand what the product ( or izoproduktsiya , no difference) will delight the most buyer , and - a lot of time . In this sense, the " forbidden " names and those not. If the task is completed , the buyer received the long joy and psychological support, as a gallery owner - profit and moral satisfaction. Antidepressants without side effects <! - ~ 1 ~ ->
And so what the buyer used to enjoy - the sense of belonging to the elite , the memories of my grandmother's flowered garden, opening a new name, the game of color and light spots, poop in boxes or animals in formaldehyde - by and large, does not matter .
A gallery owner to also get to work " antidepressants " , he should offer what he loves most, that's all.

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Сообщение от mihailovoh

market would not to.chto ogranichen.on nichtozhen.Vse all know unless lichno.to through mutual zakomyh.a dealers and galleries do not consider they are mk drives with very dim prospects.

No, the prospects of these "savings" are clear.

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Сообщение от iosif; 2917261"

gallerist , in the vast majority of sales acts , the therapist should be

 How to breed came to the gallery (conventionally , we can say poprofesionalnee ) clearly and precisely you have an ongoing conversation about these technologies , and the question can be put more generally : but how to do that in this gallery have gone ? and this point ( glavnyy! ) is already competence of any one gallery owner , promoter.

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Cyril Syzransky, to have gone to the gallery ( gallery or come ) to work Considered ; their purchased , and at a price acceptable to both sides - for this and Marketing. While, like , impossible.
" Divorce ," about which you 're talking , and psychotherapy , which I say, are fundamentally different phenomena.
Divorce - is skillful deception, after opening that the buyer is not no joy . While after proper selection of works for your visitor you listen to more than one votes , and now a regular customer .
We should not look for hidden meanings everywhere . "Sometimes a banana - it's just a banana ."

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Сообщение от iosif; 2917811"

" Divorce ," about which you 're talking , and psychotherapy , which I say, are fundamentally different phenomena.

What is the difference between them and the more fundamental ?
Therapist does not receive money for the session does not want these sessions ( and denego !) More and more and it does not " helpless " patient on long-term therapy ? <! - ~ 7 ~ ->

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Сообщение от iosif; 2917811"

Divorce - is skillful deception, after opening that the buyer is not no joy .

No, it's not cheating , and skillful manipulation : the gallery person himself came and gallerist often disingenuous , showing the dignity of one 's website , and arguing that his work in 10 years will cost 10 times more expensive . And can not disingenuous , and now just makes such a forecast , and there too, or the donkey will die , or the Sultan . <! - ~ 5 ~ ->

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Сообщение от iosif; 2917811"

While after proper selection of works for your visitor you listen to more than one votes , and now a regular customer .

" Proper selection " - do not laugh .
The joy of work in a year to cool down and the new owner will be interested only in the growth of prices for works of the author of his stuff , " as there Petrova sale ? Where he exhibited ? Pudlikatsii about where it went out if his new album? " .

[iosif]

Cyril Syzransky, you see, everyone has their own life experience <! - ~ 1 ~ -> I 've known and doctors who worry about their patients < ! - ~ 1 ~ ->
But if without jokes , I always easier to build your practice. So: most visitors to our gallery become our friends , friends or good friends . Perennial , stress . I'm afraid , with application of the " divorce " the situation would be greatly changed <! - ~ 1 ~ ->
However, I do not deny your arguments . Perhaps such approaches too common. But I personally would be interested and engaged vparivanie vtyuhivaniem . Yes and no special needs .