Investments in modern Ukrainian art

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Сообщение от tandem ; 2866591"

People earned the trust of t r y d o m money to insure children to adulthood , and this scum zhopomordaya Stavropol labeled and selected ALL .

People get paid , but the money is not , in principle, could spend - they simply had nothing to buy. As a result, the so-called internally formed savings - 2/3 of the total amount of savings. On the other hand , kopilsya deficit - a constant shortage of consumer goods compared with those obtained by people with money all wanted cars and VCRs, and stores could buy winter polta gray drape and blouse with astrakhan collar . <! - ~ 7 ~ ->
And if at the moment the prices of consumer goods would free from state control , they had to grow sharply to balance these deficits potrebtovarov .
In fact, in the savings bank of the population were virtual money writing in these books. Now out of our time is difficult to imagine it , but then still keeping them for decades in the savings bank ("delay" <! - ~ 1 ~ -> what , I wonder? zhiz the second ? but no life -"draft" and there is no life " to white ", alas ) or living under the mattress - they are not just what was spent .
Well, speculators buy jeans for 200 rubles , well hit the road in Sochi , absent from any part of there " Caucasus village " ... And ?

Сообщение от Grigory; 2866721"

and emptied it not Gorbachev , and the price of oil and sucked from the finger economic theory , the so-called " socialist economy " ...

In the 70 - 80s the entire resources of the Soviet economy left to maintain parity in the " Cold War " : atomic and hydrogen bombs , missiles , rockets , missiles , nuclear submarines , bombers and hundreds of thousands of tanks .
And the wages paid , and how - it's certainly ... <! - ~ 9 ~ ->

It is better to spend on something " earned t r y d o m the money " rather than succumbing to the call " to keep money in savings banks " , they lose.
No money , by the way , these savings banks bear did not make themselves every month my legs were carrying these savings on themselves and their children unhappy dozens .

store money in a savings bank - be in a lump suckers !

[тандем]

Сообщение от Grigory; 2866721"

If you have indicated in your profile truthful information , then you have 15 in 91 years. You lay a lot of money in the savings bank ?

And if you will call zhopomordoy filth ? ? ?

You would think that they were doing all this had nothing to do . This is all done on the economic despair , the country's budget was empty. And emptied it not Gorbachev , and the price of oil and sucked from the finger economic theory , the so-called " socialist economy " ...

Once you touched the personal , the answer - 15 years of infancy and not a normal person should already understand what is happening around , especially if what is happening directly concerns him and his blizkih.Tak so happened that my father's entire salary came at the expense of my mother Sberbank , as part of the currency at the expense of Vnesheconombank SSSR.Mat seriously ill and accounts were frozen this time decrees so cute you figures. Had to sell the apartment , and I go to school instead rabotu.Iz all the money today returned 1,000 hryvnia , and with less costs of entering the legacy 350 hryvnia ( $ 40 ) . Money account Vnesheconombank corny assigned the new Russian government . Wanted to call the act differently, as there is actually , but decided to be correct and not watered offend your ears epithets only to a small extent characterizing figures inscribed in golden page in the modern history of domestic treachery and fraud.

Сообщение от Cyril Syzran ; 2866761"

Money store in a savings bank - be in a lump suckers !

Dear Cyril Syzransky, you enter into a controversy thankless task , especially since I have no doubt that you were not then and lohom segodya not promah.Da ... With so much happiness and freedom! Just do not eat at night raw tomato ( C)

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от tandem ; 2866871"

that you were not thenlohom

In 1979, my parents were leaving for a couple of years to Kamchatka and father took me to the savings bank , there was opened in my name and gave me a bill , or ten, or 20 rubles to it when I put them on the book and explained , showed how to do it - passbook that was just in case , so I know how to lay down - shoot .
The money had lain there for three months and at one another during the hungry student I thought about them , pulled into the savings bank (which to this day is also there ) and this money gladly took . <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

And there lay in storage a few 3%bond loan, the same nominal value of 20 rubles each . I like goof last checked even draws in the table, the newspaper "Izvestia" specially bought , watched , checked , fell out whether any winning my room .
While some of his friends have not seen it and laughed at me , explaining available which negligible probability of winning there on these bonds .
But I was already a big army passed, student literacy development, and the fact that in the human there believed, as well - the State !

[Grigory]

Сообщение от tandem ; 2866871"

It just so happened that the entire salary of my father came to my mother's account in the Savings Bank , and part of the currency at the expense of Vnesheconombank of the USSR

So you lived well , you had a " part of the currency " ...
And my sn publishing list on passbook savings bank in the nearest . And my savings account as a salary (and checkbooks all employees ) is not frozen you hated figures ...
Yes , I admit, it was hard to even sucks ...
But if not for those measures would have been worse ...

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от tandem ; 2866871"

as part of the currency at the expense of Vnesheconombank of the USSR .

Сообщение от Grigory; 2867011"

So you lived well , you had a " part of the currency " ...

During his stay abroad part of their salaries in foreign currency abroad are voluntary (but not more than 60%), transfer to an account at Vnesheconombank and return to the USSR get pre ordered sum in the form of certificates (later - checks) .

A Cheque in "Birches " ... <! - ~ 1 ~ ->
However, in early 1988, the system stores Vneshposyltorg "Birch" was abolished in 1993 and checking accounts abroad are Vnesheconombank were converted into hard currency ( hard currency ) .

[kazerov]

Сообщение от tandem

... Sberbank ...

Сообщение от Cyril Syzran

... as - State ...

and in that tysyachyaletii . somehow removed my commission obsnil fact that the validity of the agreement with the Treasury they have expired , and the new , they have not yet concluded .
or after the sale of the shares they purchased and also of sold my name below the purchase price off my income tax. working tirelessly . in general was so wonderful kontora remained .
State what to say if their pension can not take in his credit, if need to have to apply to Sberbank under a much larger percentage .

Сообщение от Grigory

...
But if not for those measures would be even worse ...

measures could be different.

[Artoil-A]

Сообщение от tandem

Maybe someone would think that this post is not about any temu.No investment value in the tens, hundreds of thousands of dollars in the "contemporary art" can be discussed if the education for the overwhelming mass of people who are forced to live and not survive and feel every minute humiliation and poverty disenfranchised , is on the brink . Feast during the Plague looks all this secondary in nature and completely pointless thin - tusnya advertised experts in the restaurant business with art history diplomom.Samoe terrible that these thin - clowns who have some dollars and euros in the head , associate himself with artists of the sixties , humiliating them and their work .

Compared with the last years of the USSR. Investments in art existed and pay off in the form of commercial galleries . Later, in Moscow , there were about 200. Only one of them , the criminal , led the right marketing. The owner purchased the work from successful artists. Gave everyone on the canvas stretcher frame and painting as a model . By making it a copy of the redeemed , for example, 35 rubles . , And sold on the street for 250 rubles . (250 p . Then is the monthly salary of a qualified engineer . ) Ie just competent organization of production and trade network . There is production of 2-3 years . No one from the sixties did not compare yourself - solid simplified classic.

 Moreover , the Poles in Moscow tried to organize a similar, but bogged down in crime. Yes, and aristocratic habits and obvious attempts to cheat artists have not helped them establish a business .

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Artoil-A; 2867141"

Investments in art existed and pay off in the form of commercial galleries . Later, in Moscow , there were about 200. Only one of them , the criminal , led the right marketing.
and sell on the street

Is that the same on the " gallery " such trading in on the street replicas ? <! - ~ 7 ~ ->
Good probably invest in a copy ? <! - ~ 5 ~ ->

[Fed]

That agreed - money had nothing to buy and what their razokrali - blessing for the country .
20 - year history , to say nothing about the 120.

By the way, even if you do not mention that you can buy, such as privatization could take place , to create normal joint stock companies, or ground to give the people's labor .

" Fortunately for the country , its citizens razokrat money " ...
Sometimes you will not regret that you Olympiad .

[тандем]

Сообщение от Artoil-A; 2867141 "

compared with the last years of the USSR. Investments in art existed and pay off in the form of commercial galleries . Later, in Moscow , there were about 200. Only one of them , the criminal , led the right marketing. The owner purchased the work from successful artists. Gave everyone on the canvas stretcher frame and painting as a model . By making it a copy of the redeemed , for example, 35 rubles . , And sold on the street for 250 rubles . (250 p . Then is the monthly salary of a qualified engineer . ) Ie just competent organization of production and trade network . There is production of 2-3 years . No one from the sixties did not compare yourself - solid simplified classic.

Moreover , the Poles in Moscow tried to organize a similar, but bogged down in crime. Yes, and aristocratic habits and obvious attempts to cheat artists have not helped them establish a business .

Do not understand what it Vy.Da more Poles ( as without them damned ) dragged .
We are talking about today, about today tvortsah.Po at least those of them who do qualify as representatives of the artistic department.
I support the call for collectors - buy! After all, the collectors , these passionate people , and not a museum , accumulate and preserve for posterity samples culture of his time and eventually performed selection.

Сообщение от Fed; 2867251"

Sometimes you will not regret that you Olympiad .

Why hit below the belt ?