Sensation? Is Mashkov's painting bought for $ 3.7 million fake?

[Игорь Гурьев]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy

You'd better to this post answered:

I replied. My answer is you have a citation.

Actually, I suggested, in one branch, and I do not understand why it was doing its own branch.
I have no sensation is not necessary. The picture is not mine, I had no interest in it: for its authenticity, nor in unoriginality.
That's why I said what I thought and some of my friends whose opinion I respect.
I repeat, I do not think it up yourself: about unoriginality of this picture.
But I agree with the arguments of friends.

What's in the City Museum has been painting "Flowers in a pot, proves nothing.
In Mashkova half paintings of flowers in a pot, you might say.

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[Игорь Гурьев]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy

Sorry.
It is a pity that in a serious subject that something and came thanks to your remarks, you do not have anything except this:

You know, I tell you frankly: I do not want to give their analysis of the picture.
Although everything here and nicknames, but all easy to find, but no visits from interested people in the real I do not need.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Guriev, Igor

You know, I'll be honest: I do not want to give his analysis of the picture.
Although everything here and nicknames, but all easy to find, but no visits from interested people in the real I do not need.

Oh, come on you!
You've all here laugh, have pity on yourself, it does not really quite a foolscap ...

[Игорь Гурьев]

[Маруся]

Сообщение от OlegTsi

Maybe someone has a photo of the original stickers Society "Knave of Diamonds"? How she must have looked like in reality?

For understandable reasons, to find images of these tags and labels is rather difficult ...
But I have found the description labels, very similar to yours, only in modern spelling: Unknown Russian avant-garde in museums and private collections in Moscow, 1992, p. 153: Aristarchus Lentulov. Woman with watermelon. 1910. Oil on canvas. 69 x 61. On the back of a paper label "Vsekohudozhnik" with the inscription: Auto. Lentulov 822 titles. "Woman with a pumpkin" Year App. of 1910. Oil on canvas and a paper label with a circular emblem of society and the inscription: Artists' Society "Knave of Diamonds". Asking paste this form on the back of the picture. Product № 10. Title proizvdeniya (?) Woman with watermelon. Size in frame: length width price from Z 5 to 5 (?)
Purchased in 1988 by MA Lentulov, daughter of the artist. Moscow. Regional Museum of Art. Simbirsk. F-1612.
The work - an undeniable, therefore, label - the real one. And the number of works in the label does not correspond to the same number in the catalog of the exhibition of paintings Artists' Society "Knave of Diamonds", St. Petersburg 1913: Aristarchus Lentulov. 1910. 148 women with watermelon.
But that's the spelling of your label is really confusing ...
Perhaps the Simbirsk museum employs sympathetic people, and they will give you an image of the traffic?

[OlegTsi]

That's what we found out a more detailed study of the creative ways Mashkova described in the same book Ilya Mashkov (JS Bolotina, Moscow 1977)

Okazyvaetsya, as I thought that the numbers on the labels of society Knave of Diamonds are not directly related to the exhibitions of this society.

Quote:

The Model with thumbs. Above left signature Mashkov 1908.
On the back of the canvas label society Knave of Diamonds artists with signature and. Mashkov and the inscription: product № 2

Nude model in studio.
On the back of the canvas label Society of Artists Knave of Diamonds with the inscription: the product of number 5.
Exhibition of paintings by artists of society Knave of Diamonds 1913 St. 184 (this number in the catalog)

The task model, their hands raised over his head
On the back of the canvas label Society of Artists Knave of Diamonds with the inscription: product № 45
This painting dates from the period of 1908.

Model with a vase
On the back of the canvas label Society of Artists Knave of Diamonds with the inscription: product № 20
Exhibition BV 1913 St. Petersburg (numbered 203 Artist's Model, № 20 among the works in this exhibition Mashkova)

Model with fruit. Sketch.
On the back of the canvas before the restoration had a sticker Society of Artists Knave of Diamonds with the inscription: product № 21

Portrait of a boy in a painted shirt
On the back of the canvas label society artists Knave of Diamonds with № 49
Exhibition BV 1910-11 № 151

Portrait of Eugenia Eve. KirkaldiIzvestno that this portrait was exhibited at one of the exhibitions BV under number 47. Suitable only exhibition where indicated under the "227 -" 47 among the works Mashkova ...

Still. Flowers.
On the back of the canvas label Society of Artists Knave of Diamonds with the inscription: product № 27
Exhibition BV 1913 St. № 210, № 27 among Mashkova works in this exhibition.

Landscape with a Tower
On the back of the canvas label Society of Artists Knave of Diamonds with the inscription: № 18
Exhibition BV St. Petersburg, 1913 № 201. Number 18 among the works Mashkova.

Landscape with a house
On the back of the canvas label Society of Artists Knave of Diamonds with the inscription: product № 7

Lady with pheasants
On the back of the canvas label Society of Artists Knave of Diamonds with the inscription: product № 34
Exhibition BV St. Petersburg, 1913 № 217

Still. Breads
On the back of the canvas label Society of Artists Knave of Diamonds with the inscription: product № 38
Exhibition BV St. Petersburg 1913. Number 219s. № 38 among the works Mashkov



That is, the number of works - is the serial numbers of works, among all the works Mashkova and took part in the exhibition with paintings of other artists. This is not a number of works in the exhibition catalog.

Tomorrow to figure out where the number 46 could be in what the exhibition could be involved.

[Игорь Гурьев]

Vopsche I did not understand what is vozbuzhdalovo.

I ask fellow moderators REMOVE this branch.

I still want to live.

Posted 12 minutes
Most of the same me laugh comrade Oleg TZI.

(Tsenzored) specifically had not even heard about a book about Mashkov, about the catalog from the series "Masters of our century" (which I bought, I apologize, in a bookshop the Tretyakov Gallery on leaving immediately).
Who is Irina Bolotina, it is better not to explain.

So he climbed to the topic.

In my opinion, no such "Oleg TZI" does not exist, the branch purely provocative.

Well you can not have suschestvovaat (tsenzored), who had not heard about the book Pospelova about Jack of Diamonds (and he admitted that he did not know).

Oleg tzy - Fake it, Makey, and so on, the theme Delete PLIZ, it adds nothing to your forum.

I beg you,
All are in other subjects, not necessarily overlap.

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Incidentally, Comrade.

[OlegTsi]

[Игорь Гурьев]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy

Analysis of the painting!
You have it in photographs, and then only saw what they "analysis"

Course.

I'm a hundred times POTCHORKIVAL: I have anybody in Tcherne NOT want to make sure.

Do not want to think together - not think.

Your right.

Would you like to say that you're smarter Gurieva?

Yes, God did you me, I agree in advance that I was a fool, but you are clever.

But I'm not talking about it, but about a picture allegedly Moshkova.

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Сообщение от OlegTsi

You forgot to mention another delirium tremens.

I forget many things, including about what you said.

Sinned.

A THEME should be removed,

Because it seems to be a friend Oleg Tzu happened aforesaid.