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[U_Z]

Сообщение от Konstantin; 2803011 "

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Second - mass /souvenirs

No need to talk in the abstract, because talking about specific subjects. Question - where do you see mass production Tsalkova ? It should be on store shelves in the millions ?

Well , I specify - not mass , and Draw (including limited edition ) products made ​​by mechanical means.

Mass production is not needed Tsalkova market basically! Like the author , I buy only " elected collectors " in a very limited scale , IMHO.

Let's talk about a specific example. Vase with the auction ( pictures posted KS).

If the bottom of the mark was 1 /1, 1 /2, 2 /2, 1 /3, 2 /3, 3/3 , etc. of up to 5/5 , the circulation is limited . In the photo it is not. Circulation is not specified. Therefore , it is mass production , and not even limited edition .

Konstantin, do not get me wrong, you asked for opinion - I gave him .

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Сообщение от U_Z; 2803591 "

Mass production Tsalkova not necessary , in principle, the market ! Like the author , I buy only " elected collectors " in a very limited scale , IMHO .

I would agree with that . But ! I , frankly , vases painted with " a drawing ( model , sketch , as it is more convenient call ) Tsalkova " I have never met or even heard about them. Knew about the plates . About vase - no.
Of course , I'm not a genius , just can not see or hear about all I can , but I'm interested in this topic , auction catalogs and check if this would have surfaced somewhere before ( and Tina Hopperdietzel vase painted in 2009 ), the saw 'd hope .

I think , Konstantin will be able to tell on the circulation of such vases Tsalkova detail.

[Михалыч]

1. The vase is a kind of figure 5 . Creates vspechatlenie that they are not the largest circulation ( as surely is, as if to hammer the market - it is minus the price ) .
2 . Signature oc obviously not manual and perevodka ( decal ) .
3 . The inscription on the vase " hendmaleri " once again confirms the fact that the subject is not the author , and the runner (regardless of the count , 10 or 100 . 5 now , then when will disperse - Nalepa else).
4 . Even if it's small circulation , the price must be understood. Even the signing of lithography personally can buy at 500-1000 dollars ( short runs ) . Hence : the price of the subject should be similar , with an increase in costs - because it is not a paper, and porcelain.

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Сообщение от Mikhalych ; 2804481 "

Signature oc obviously not manual and perevodka ( decal ).

" Obviously "?

Сообщение от Mikhalych ; 2804481 "

The inscription on the vase " hendmaleri " once again confirms the fact that the subject is not the author , and the runner (regardless of the count , 10 or 100 . 5 now , then when will disperse - Nalepa else).

Who is it to stick ? <! - ~ 7 ~ - > What 's to say so ?

Сообщение от Mikhalych ; 2804481 "

Even if it's small circulation , the price must be understood. Even the signing of lithography personally can buy at 500-1000 dollars ( short runs ) . Hence : the price of the subject should be similar , with an increase in costs - because it is not a paper, and porcelain.

You say it's customers , who for this vase at auction trading . <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

[Михалыч]

Cyril Syzransky, can still do not understand my position ? will explain :
I am totally against inflating prices like.
There COPYRIGHT things . And they may be the subject of investing. TK 's painting - she even on paper, at least on the canvas , even on plywood , though on porcelain - AUTHOR . All other attempts to bring such items do not even to the author , but to the .... ( it is not clear what) (in fact, it is an ordinary thing Draw to which the author refers ONLY AS AUTHOR samples, but not the work) . If the subject of one , and is made by the author, then it is not necessary to produce dekolnye signature, writing that it " handmaleri ." Author signs his name , year, title ....
Everything else - the circulation . Yes, deserves to be. Deserves to be collected, well, or collect .... But the price is correlated to the lottery ( not author - malotirazhke ) things LIVE website .

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Сообщение от Mikhalych ; 2804541 "

But the price is correlated to the lottery ( not author - malotirazhke ) things LIVE website .

clarify :
Vase bought by auction.
You are my " against inflating prices like " to him, apparently , pay ?

It reminds me of the desire to reduce the price of tomatoes rejection of their purchases. Well, you did not buy , will buy others who want a salad of tomatoes now, not when they fall in price and do not care about the fact that in St. Petersburg , they are more expensive than in Helsinki , for example .

And all this talk about circulation - all everybody understands all adult and pay your money. Bought the same for so much , it means someone has arranged this price , the more he himself appointed her and making a bet .

I have a topic for discussion, I do not see .

[U_Z]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky ; 2803621 "

But ! Frankly, vases painted with " a drawing ( model , sketch , as it is more convenient call ) Tsalkova " I have never met or even heard about them. Knew about the plates . About vase - no .

Right. No reliable information - it's alarming . What is the circulation of which Order ( Order History ) , which series , how many species ( vases , plates , etc.).

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Сообщение от Mikhalych ; 2804481 "

The vase is a kind of figure 5 . Creates vspechatlenie that they are not the largest circulation ( as surely is, as if to hammer the market - it is minus the price ).

I do not think it's circulation . Professionals do not numbered copies . Most likely it is the image number ( figure) .

Frankly, the information part on the bottom of the vase is made poorly , not aesthetically pleasing , tasteless and not informative. Vase causes no sensation of something exclusive .

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Сообщение от Mikhalych ; 2804481 "

Even if it's small circulation , the price must be understood. Even the signing of lithography personally can buy at 500-1000 dollars ( short runs ) . Hence : the price of the subject should be similar , with an increase in costs - because it is not paper, and porcelain .

The price can be any person wanted - bought .

[Евгений]

Сообщение от Mikhalych ; 2804481 "

The inscription on the vase " hendmaleri " once again confirms the fact that the subject is not the author , and the limited edition

Signed, who painted there , "Tina Hopperdietzel" ( vase discussed at the next forum http://forumuuu.com/showthread.php?t=408513&page=5), it is clear that this is just mass production ( perhaps a very small print run ), but once paid , the

Сообщение от U_Z; 2804581 "

The price can be any person wanted - bought .

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Mikhailovich, a simple, small vases, Meissen ( limited edition ) http://www.art-farfor.ru/category/vazy_zg/ are 10-12 t.evro , that ch.vse normally the price .. In Russian , German porcelain like ... <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

[Konstantin]

So , let's continue :

Online auction number 2 ARTinvestment.RU

Today , October 14, 2013 , opened an online auction number 2 electronic trading platform Auction AI.

On the second bid auction AI exhibited graphics Natalia Goncharova and ceramics of the sixties - Vladimir Nemukhin and Grisha Bruskin .

The auction itself takes place here until Friday 12-00 .

[Glasha]

Thank you all for an interesting discussion on the first lots (china) auction.


Question regarding the project itself: why there is no category "Photography"?
"Coins" is, and "Photos" no <! - ~ 1 ~ ->