Let's discuss the price of Savrasov

[dedulya37]

Сообщение от heir

"The frequent citation of authority - a sign of insecurity in their own competence" (with)

A not quoting authorities - a sign of lack of competence. (R)

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Сообщение от Sandro

John Preston, well, beauty - no words!

Troubled people, there's some passion-cheeky turned ...
But most importantly, we now have an expert on Savrasov-no Grabar and now you do not need ... : D

[John Preston]

Dear forum users,

I offer you my apologies for the fact that in some way lead you astray. The fact that misled me.
I was told that there is expert opinion from the Yaroslavl Museum, it really is, but then I saw it firsthand, and I want to say that the picture, at best, attributed Savrasov, but its authorship has not been proved!
Go on expert opinion for information.

[Евгений]

Сообщение от John Preston

I offer you my apologies for the fact that in some way lead you astray. The fact that misled me.

So this Tjutchev, has long been written.

[мистер-у]

Dear Sirs, I've been reading a your opinion on the authorship of the artist, he or did not he, and sometimes come in nedoumenie.Ya agree that many of you "Profi" nasmotrennye and successful art-dilery.Slava God! "Everyone in life svoe.My live in the 21st century, who of you can guarantee the authenticity of the work? Why then do expertise, technology, iskusstvovedcheskaya.Posmotrel .... it or not ono.Togda write ekspkrtizy.Zachem VA Petrov, R. Kiseleva, SV Rimsky-Korsakov, Ignatov, G. Goldovsky and drugie.Vy talking about "snob"?? I'll tell you simply and frankly, no one person, nazhivshy state fails to pay you money just tak.U everyone has his own expert or group ekspertov.Prinimayut solutions of them, and pays money zakazchik.Darmovye ended a long time and pay in the dark, no one budet.Na such work should be at least 3 conclusions, Russian, Grabar, and the State Tretyakov Gallery, but not zakaznye.Vy just recently obhayali work N. Dubovsky "Sea , and the owner gave eksperizu Grabarya.Nuzhno be softer in their rezyume.Znaete as "killed" art? "Someone from reputable people, not experts, said the city ..... and work "killed." With uv.A.Ya.

[K-Maler]

Сообщение от Mr-y

??? I'll tell you simply and frankly, no one person, nazhivshy state fails to pay you money just tak.U everyone has his own expert or group ekspertov.Prinimayut solutions they and the customer pays

Art is inherently public. This is a dialogue. Even before perestroika art bought by those who could do without the expertise. Expertise needed when the situation has changed and began to buy "names" and these "names" they have to offer, ie appeared forgery. Here - free forum, where this kind of verification. Present, including painters, whose eyes "set", as well as those who choose the paintings' eyes, not ears "(Grabar) ...

[Amateur]

Сообщение от Mr-y

but the owner gave eksperizu Grabar

If a picture is "artisan," then let it be at least examination from the Pope, the picture is better not to do. It does not complain of pictures, and discuss them, including placing the facts may be disappointing to the owner. At this forum, talk to reputable people, and I think if anyone of them questioned the authorship, it is a serious signal and the author doubts the topic, and double-check everything again. However, it is a thing of the author's themes. Expertise, incidentally, is also being counterfeited.

Сообщение от K-Maler

Here - free forum, where this kind of testing.

I totally agree.

[uriart]

Mr y,

Сообщение от Mr-y

Why then do expertise, technology, iskusstvovedcheskaya.Posm otrel .... it or not ono.Togda write ekspkrtizy.Zachem VA Petrov, R. Kiseleva, SV Rimsky-Korsakov, Ignatov, G. Goldovsky and drugie.Vy talking about "snob" ???

The same question to you.
And why would the author makes the topic here to discuss his paintings? Probably does not want to spend money on the expertise of a recognized authorities and hopes to hear a free 100%authenticity of the answer.
Well, get this is the answer!
It is expressed all who want and nobody is allowed to express their opinion.
And if a person has a normal job, plus the normal eks.zakl. he had nothing anywhere to show their work at various forums and ask other opinions.
So no one can screw up the good work!

[наследник]

Сообщение от dedulya37

A netsitirovanie authority - a sign of lack of competence. (R)

Opinion influential people need to know. Who would argue was the ...
But when a lot of citations, it seems passing a certainty, that because of someone else's back man shows his fists, and himself to get into a fight just a coward. I do not like these. And to you, I see, they prefer - again from that position in the exchange of remarks got involved with a clumsy parody.

 

Сообщение от Tjutchev

And he who thinks himself an expert,
To suddenly say that he is a fool,
Although some did not understand
But with an important person nods his head
And whispered: - That's great! Well done!

Specified - it Asadov, whose verse gave Tyutchev.
And then think again, that Tyutchev really Fyodor Ivanovich name.

[John Preston]

Сообщение от uriart

Mr y,

And why would the author makes the topic here to discuss his paintings? Probably does not want to spend money on the expertise of a recognized authorities and hopes to hear a free 100%authenticity of the answer.
Well, get this is the answer!

Yuri, in the first place is not my job, I just said. Discussion was zateyalo in order to determine the indicative price for the work, which I thought the original. When I saw the opinion of reputable art dealers, and then scans and expert opinion, I realized that no guarantee of authenticity, in fact, no. And ask the opinion of professionals - not a crime, right?
I still very work in hand for the examination Grabar and money on it nobody gave ...