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Старый 25.05.2011, 00:00 Язык оригинала: Русский       #21
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How interesting : Nobel laureate Igor Bunin - the monument is not set , and Brodsky - put . Bollocks something .... American nonsense ... Then is better - Pasternak ,...
And for me - much better all of them (and the list could be extended ) , whom we can be proud of , a monument will name the streets , avenues .. >



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Старый 25.05.2011, 00:09 Язык оригинала: Русский       #22
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There was once a boy.
He lived in a very unjust country in the world.
Its rules are, which in all human standards should recognize the geeks.
What, however, did not happen.
(c)



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Старый 25.05.2011, 02:48 Язык оригинала: Русский       #23
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Igor Sasha, please tell us and what happened next, when your guests come Brodsky, as he spoke, as joked about what suffering and dreamed?
This is the kind of conversation that can not tell, because so much is built on half-tones, hints, hidden quotations, etc.

Almost all (including me) saw it the first time, and therefore (except me), almost all zarobeli and did not know what to say.

I had to take the rap for everybody.
A relaxed talk and remember what to say - I do not know how.

One of my friends who could talk to him better than me, sat down and just admire Brodsky.

Then he told me that he recorded the conversation, but the text I still could not wait.

The meeting was, I think, in 1989, after more than a year after Nobelevki. It was believed that, after receiving the Nobel Prize, writers, touring the world, act, and so on.

- Well, how was your annual Nobel marathon? - Asked him Comrade. Guriev.

- And there was no marathon - said Brodsky.

There was another point: it is something very respectfully said of Boris Slutsky, and then I felt a real poet Brodsky, and Slutsky - Soviet.
And somehow I chuckled sarcastically: it is, you Slutsky love?
And I remember some sort of helpless half-smile on his face as if I caught it on something this is not good, but what he did not know that this is bad, but now can say, and will be afraid and ashamed.

Somewhere like that.

Chair a-la Louis 16, was sitting Brodsky, Gorbanevskaya thrown at moving.
Sorry.

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Until then, I've seen Brodsky once in 1984 on his speech is rather long (in the hall were about 200-300).
I asked him whether he has something against my review of his book "New Stanzas to Augusta", published in the journal Kontinent. He replied, as usual answered all:
- It's absolutely wonderful review!

I praised her and everyone else, but what about the relationship between its subjects, I was not sure.
Then Vladimir Maksimov confirmed to me that Brodsky liked it very much: Brodsky, he himself said about this, without leading questions.
What did he say, I say here will not, but then you never know what might think ...




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Старый 25.05.2011, 02:55 Язык оригинала: Русский       #24
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Such memories are always a great value ..


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Almost all (including me) saw it the first time, and therefore (except me), almost all zarobeli
Why do you like shyness did not cover?
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Старый 25.05.2011, 03:02 Язык оригинала: Русский       #25
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Why do you like timidity is not covered?
I do not get shy in conversation, as you notice even the forum, I suppose.


Conversation - this is my element, if you like.

With most people, I immediately find a common language.

And even more so with genius.



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Старый 25.05.2011, 03:07 Язык оригинала: Русский       #26
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With most people, I immediately find a common language.

And even more so with genius.

It is also a talent!



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Старый 26.05.2011, 10:54 Язык оригинала: Русский       #28
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Weller: "When Brodsky began to read in America, his stanzas on the Roman theme - it is not in any way poetry: it is what is called literariness and literariness - this is when the author, not having in general no idea of ​​what he wrote, drew all information about it from books, gives a rehash of the motives of these same books in the same canon, which he read from the books, just by their words and, strictly speaking, for some unknown reason.

While Joseph Brodsky lived in the Soviet Union in Leningrad, the city, he was not great. Then he fell, then under the wheel of the campaign against parasites, he was sentenced to several years in exile. Save pictures, where he and arrogant person (he has always been arrogant person, from the early years) is sitting, so a good sweater and rubber boots on a bench near the fence, and near demonstrative is a pack of cigarettes, "Chesterfield" (in the 64-m ).

Then he wanted to emigrate to Israel's visa, then he changed his mind, then he called and said: "You know you're fed, well, so we decided to release you." He said: "I changed my mind." He said: "But we came up with."

Arriving in America, he wrote an open letter to Brezhnev. Actually Brodsky was not for Brezhnev wrote, he wrote it for the foreign community. And all foreign public learned that the Soviet Russian now quite mad in their reaktsionerskoy communist essence: they kicked a poet, a poet not afraid to turn to the Soviet leader with an open letter, where he managed to say the communist leader, many bad words about him, about the leader, and a lot of good about themselves, about the poet. Therefore, our emigrants abroad who hated those who remained in the Soviet Union has thrived.

Cursed, corrupt all these Yevtushenko and Voznesensky Okudzhava, which are published in large editions, who live in country houses. Brodsky countered them.

If a drip on temechko, shaven, a drop of very long, so Brodsky received the Nobel Prize, and after that no one doubted that Brodsky - a great poet, and certainly greater than Voznesensky, Yevtushenko than than Slutsky than many more ...

Unit did not want to give. That French poet Sully Prud'hon given. Who remembers him now? If it were not given the Nobel, and not be remembered. After that, the critics have been forced to assume Brodsky, a great poet. But once given - that's our glory! "
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Marx Tartakovsky: "Anna Akhmatova said that Brodsky in his own way must repressive Soviet regime, lined up his biography."

Leo Tolstoy did not receive the Nobel Prize: a solution of "discharge Belles Lettres" from the Academy of Sciences in January 1906 stated that "the Academy can not separate the fiction of Tolstoy on his political and literary activities, and given the nature of the latter can not point to Tolstoy as a worthy prize . Brodsky's case is just the opposite. Verse zaum in principle easier to translate than the normal verse-pony zaum plus famous dissident forces us to assume something more than it actually is. This, I suppose, and outweighed the foreign language in the opinion of Nobel arbiters.

For what would completely random sets of words arbitrarily divide the imaginary poetic lines that have columns? It is not only rhymes, but also rhythm, and fret not. Yes, and the meaning too. Because the poetic sense if something else is possible without rhyme (free verse), then fret no - no way.

Until now, remembering your voice
I come
in excitement. That, however,
naturally. For ligament
not like a naked muscle, hair, luggage
under cold burkalami,
and bzdyume (!) utryaski
things with age. Taken
outside of meat, the sound
does not wear due to friction ...
 
And so on - until the final lines:
 
lost limbs, girlfriend
soul
is a product of evolution. And dial
this number to me
how to crawl out of the water onto land.

Maybe biased selection of quotes? Resort to promote the well-known critic Alexander Genis

"When the landscape is wavy,
in me says shellfish.
he sings the chorus
chordates, the second five
l negoluboy
Blood: the muscles and then
Sushi me as span
captured the surf. "

"Blue is always ready to tell
Owner
of goods, abandoned mixed
(Ie, the time - from life)
in order to peer into it.
So the eagle seeks to peer
in the tails. "



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Старый 26.05.2011, 13:55 Язык оригинала: Русский       #29
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Weller
Weller about Brodsky!
Scream!
Weller!
 
> > > > >

Added after 2 minutes
Fed, and that there Ebardey Gordeevich Kukushkin about Brodsky says?




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As long as Joseph Brodsky lived in the Soviet Union in Leningrad, the city , he was not a great ...... If drip on temechko , shaven , a drop of very long, so Brodsky received the Nobel Prize , and after This is no doubt that Brodsky - a great poet , and certainly greater than Voznesensky , Yevtushenko than than Slutsky than many more ...
" Envy - is the desire to maximize their significance through the minimization of significant other . "
 Author Michael Weller
" The Meaning of Life " in 2007 .



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