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Fursenko called merit series "School"
St. Petersburg. January 21. INTERFAX.RU - TV anime "School" has galvanized public attention to the topic of education, says Minister of Education and Science Andrei Fursenko. "EGE has played a very important role. Incidentally, in a sense, this role is played by series" School "- the formation of many more began to speak" - Fursenko told reporters in St. Petersburg, where the opening ceremony of the Year was a teacher in Russia. According to the Minister, this TV series anyway created a motivation to ensure that the company seriously discussing education. "And whatever the shortcomings, I will still vote for it, I will nevertheless be understood that this theme, which attracted attention, and that external emotional component to leave, but the interest is to understand what is happening in education , still remain, "- said Fursenko. http://www.interfax.ru/culture/news.asp?id=119915 |
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Eh-eh, is in Russia is still no law on "protecting children from harmful information" as in European countries (although the "law of information" is that: confused . Well, hopefully, will this law and these jackals and vultures on television prizhmut their tails. rian.ru/culture/20100114/204440713.html
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Judging by the fragments, very similar to the school in which my son goes, well, just a point. School health is called.
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Samvel, if I understand you correctly, you agree with those who argue that in the series "School" objectively shown weekdays modern Russia school?
Добавлено через 9 часов 17 минут Again deuce In the Year of the teachers have to deal with the problem not the series "School" and the problems of the school itself January 22, 2010 in the near future, President Dmitry Medvedev will sign a national program "Our new school". About our old school has been told in the second week of prime-time Channel One. And even if uncomplicated labor director series "School" Valeria Gai Germanika caused such extensive discussions, it means at this point we just hurts. So, should be treated. And not cheap analgesics in the form of the ban showing the series, but seriously, thoughtfully, step by step, reading all the running problems. Apparently, came to this wise conclusion, and in the Moscow Department of Education, let alone school N 945 in the sleeping area Zyablikova, where continued shooting scandalous series. - Director of media is not talking - politely warned the guard school. - And inside I do not miss. I had to go to the frost. On the door hangs a school announcement: "A set of children in a theatrical troupe. Collection on Wednesday in the auditorium. - Probably, in the crowd gathering for the shootings, - shared my assumptions graduate school 16-year-old Daur Ibraev. He and his friend Abdul Adilgereev on the porch waiting for their friends. - My friend Igor was shot in the crowd - telling Daur. - I wonder, of course, but many nakrucheno all. - No, - do not agree Abdul. - Film desired. But yesterday I watched the series. In her episode about how non-Russian is a Russian guy, and he says to him, they say, thank you tell me more, that I'm friends with you, with Cobra ... I have something similar too, was at school. Abdul and Daur been living in Moscow and speak without an accent. They learn to auto mechanics in college. The school had never smoked or drank, because they generally do not, but the problem of the film they are familiar. - In 15-16 years, if you say you're a virgin, you feel retarded! - Indignant Abdul. - I have a lot of schools passed. In Moscow in my school went to 12-year-old pregnant girl. In one school classmates director almost beaten. I was once a teacher right in the classroom at all, said: "You owe me lick his feet ..." Although she was 60 years old! We have this episode, the whole family watching. My father even told me that he understands me now in some points. Bell rings. Teens smoking do not go - probably because of the frost. For Pervoklashka school stretched parents. The film and its shooting in the school, many of them do not approve. Basking in the "waiting room", I hear how someone's father asked the first thing cleaner: "Film shoot?" - Today, the output from them - is responsible cleaner. - Farther - the worse. Already bed scenes went. They show close-up, as children smoke grass! All the time I switched to another channel, that the child could not see anything ... - This is not a film but a nightmare - is outraged pensioner Nikolai, leading his grandson's hand. - It's a shame. They show some bandits. And why is our school? God knows what they are doing the shooting, smoke, swear. We did not want his grandson to the school to give - here "churok" a lot! What can you say, the problem of national hatred in the movie "School", apparently unaffected in vain. Finally finish lessons from high school. Companies and one by one they go home. I'm trying to compare them with the heroes of the film, which is a snap. As in all schools in the world, here is my first beauty and handsome, lanky slackers and "Botany. By TV series are much calmer adults. - In the film all the more exaggerated. Pupils show some monsters, we do not like - said tenth Misha Smirnov. - Remove it too ... It seems that a cheap camera. There will long debate about the film. I step over the fence - two graduates are suitable for school. On the porch smoking a teacher of Russian language and literature. - Well you new? - They ask him. - Withdraw! Say, until February will be removed. Children's Ombudsman Moscow, Distinguished Teacher of Russia Yevgeny Bunimovich: I am afraid of teenagers, focusing only on career - The sharp public reaction to the series about the school explained. For the first time in the past 10-15 years has gone so frank, almost on a physiological level conversation about the troubles the school and the new generation in general. I do not think that teachers in the series shows terrible. While I share the view of some of his colleagues, claiming that in the Year of the teachers are entitled to expect a more balanced assessment of his work and compassionate attitude. Teachers are different - both good and bad. In "School" simply does not demonstrate the best representatives of our profession. Although the Russian culture is a characteristic feature: the teacher embodies the highest and the lowest: remember the "Man in a Case", sollogubovskogo Peredonov ... I do not think that teachers should confine Year slight increase teachers' salaries (though God forbid) and the statements of the first persons that "it is necessary to worship at the feet of the teacher for his selfless and amazing work ... Should consist of honest conversation - let them based on the series. The main thing is that the school will be in focus and will begin at least attempt to solve its problems. With regard to the realism the series - like /not like life. There is some feeling that the series a little bit behind the times. In my opinion, there is now a different problem than rudeness-mat-smoking teenagers - and I have not heard that someone started a serious conversation about this. I increasingly see a new type of student: a rigid sense of purpose, much less romanticism, a bet on a career. These teenagers do not drink, do not smoke. Quite - it is harmful to health, and they lead a healthy lifestyle. They almost do not care about love - both in the sense that it shows in the series, and how it is described by Leo Tolstoy. They are simply busy with other matters. It seems that the whole world relationships, feelings, questions of existence, life and death - all that should worry the advanced 15-year-old boy, closed to them. All that was formerly known as intelligence, no longer has to them. They are tough professionals. I respect them - they are much more purposefully than we were at their age, and make choices that are much more clearly. Understand where they are going and why. Yes, and what they will pay. And they probably will work well - if the country they will claim. Or will work successfully in another country. They are difficult to bring a claim - what's wrong with what they want to build a career? But somehow it takes a little bit frightened of their rationalism. Such small adults. They are not that dishonest - they are simply outside the category of conscience. Their economic categories. Maybe with time they reach humanity - or maybe not. I, as a teacher of mathematics, I can say: if time does not learn the multiplication table, then you do not already ... I am a Moscow teacher in the third generation. Never in our teacher did not live brilliantly in the material sense, but still respect and social status was higher than now. In the 1990's teachers are absolutely driven to lumpen status, plus overlaid ideology "if you're so smart, why are so poor?". All this led to what the teacher has plummeted in public perception. Yes, about a good teacher must say that it is good, and bad - that bad. But at the same time giving the teacher the opportunity to live normally. The world is always going reform of education (apparently, they will be permanent - the society is changing too fast), and international experience is very interesting: a simple investment of money in the school does not guarantee the result. Finland, for example, is a leader in the field of education - they are investing in teachers, primarily - in the primary school teachers and educators, whose salaries are comparable with the income of professors. I'm not against computers and globes, but it is an attachment to the teacher gives the best results. of the Moscow school history teacher in 1273 N Smirnova Zinaida: The conversation is long overdue - I watched a few episodes of "School". Yeah, the best "gift" to the Year of the teachers it was difficult to imagine. We discussed the series with his colleagues and came to the conclusion that such things should not show on the central television, especially on the "First Channel". Bitter that it sees a school - and we, teachers, and children. Understand that many students have not yet formed psyche. And what they see on the show, could become a model for them. Of course, talking about school needs. It is long overdue, we have a lot of problems. Basically all the same, that there were ten, twenty, and thirty years ago: the relationship of students, children's cynicism, the problem of rogue ... We must talk about the relationship between parents and teachers. Often mothers and fathers because of their youth are biased to their children. But while teachers are accused of bias. The best film made about the school, I believe, will live to see Monday. He is very wise and subtle. I showed him my high school students, and they looked it in one breath. On a serious conversation about the "School" with the guys we have not yet emerged, but I plan such a conversation. But I know that those who have already watched series, are outraged. And you did not watch all - the boys so busy - courses, tutors, that they are not up to serials ... What do older students about the show "School" In fact, our attitude towards teachers is directly dependent on them. Those who treat us with disrespect, contempt receive in return. We are not afraid to express their opinions, but not crossing over, as shown in the series. Rather, it reflected the fears of adults, than our real lives in school. It looks nothing like a real school. We have many problems, like these guys. But we are quite different. Besides the actors picked absolutely not suitable for their age. Sometimes you think that they have a minimum of 40 years. In my school no one takes the liberty of smoking in the toilet and so open to ridicule teachers. Similar series only makes adult vain to worry and experience for us. Parents, do not be afraid! In fact, everything is not quite true. Yes, we love to show a steep, stand, swearing, including the mat sometimes. And you do not cursed? But we have a head on their shoulders, and we ourselves control, unlike some of the heroes of the "School". Once in class we heard from the teacher, the word "black". Parents teach us what to say so about people - disrespect and reproach, and teachers calmly pronounce. Teacher began to explain that it is indecent and tasteless. We did not try to manufacture something out of a building. There has been even conflict. Moreover, the teacher apologized and promised to continue to be careful in expressions. We smoked a lot. But no one can afford to do it in high school. Everything has its place. We have it - snout near the bookstore "Young Guards". We call it the abbreviated "MG". We are often shaming going Old ladies: "And yet Lyceum students!" Shame! " We suspect the answer that they were in his time not only for bread in the store went. And those "scumbags", what I see on the show, seem to me the victims of a bygone fashion. We and the truth often seems that everything is not right that one does not understand. But we are trying to be older and fair. Sometimes we do stupid things but we try to fix them yourself. The only thing that would like to ask the parents - it is confidence. For such series do not encourage them to think that in our school all the way and it really is. We have a real friendship, love. There are enemies and dislikes teacher. But we know how to cope with their problems, know how to think and believe in goodness, which, in my opinion, not enough characters. Series "School" is good because it correctly guessed the school atmosphere. I think he deliberately exaggerated some aspects of school life, for example, adopted the language of communication. But in general everything looks natural and seamless. Perhaps that is why many resent - are afraid of being recognized, and do not want to see themselves so what actually are. Daria Slusarenko, a student of Grade 9 - on the instructions of the "Week" The psychologist, a television consultant Olga Makhovskaya: also grew Generation "predators" - New Generation - a wild, instinctive, very strong. It's called - Generation "predators": many things it feels instinctively. So, do not know the civilized ways of meeting their needs. The mores of young people, which are shown in the picture, sociologists have called pofigistskimi. The movie is merciless towards anyone, but especially to adult parents. Personally, I present teenagers remind baby boomers of our grandmothers and grandfathers. Same orphanhood and homelessness ... They had a war, we in the 90's suffered their outrage - restructuring. The only difference from the older generation - today's kids are fed and well dressed. They were as replacement of parental warmth offered material benefits. And now, young people pay the same coin parents: accuse them that instead of love they received toys. It is clear that they stand on ceremony with their own parents do not really want. It turns out that the problem of childhood always collected from pre-school age, but because it is included in adolescence. Perestroika child - the most nevrotizirovanny. He, like the neurotic, afraid to be alone. Such children must be beaten in a flock or rely on someone else. This generation is not exactly collectivist psychology. They are unlike their parents are individualists. And solve issues of survival, rather than building a light communism. All of their flocks of time, they may at any time to betray each other or pass. These children should not be treated aggressively - they should all be put in jail. They just do not give, and will continue to manipulate and twisting. Like all predators, they have the psychology winner: "or I'll do as I want, or this world will not." "School" - a kind of manifesto of the youth of the new format. She grew up and gained a voice. Directed by Valeria Gai Germanica - a mature professional, but not yet having a "side view" of wisdom. Valerie itself 25 years, and it is intuitively very similar to the adolescents, has been withdrawn. In fact, the film shows the marginalized. Gaius Germanicus chose guys who play themselves. Therefore, the "School" can be considered genuine. But it is not seamless. At school, a lot of problems, which the director is not covered. The film does not pursue the global artistic problems. What survives in this pack a teacher, already carrying a huge load? One can assume that the "School" will give birth to a dozen similar films. And they will certainly find its audience. After all, "school grounds" we have not yet developed. http://www.inedelya.ru/reportings/article9724 Добавлено через 29 минут "School" was ready Producer series "School" Igor Tolstunov in an interview with Interfax reported on how it was decided to remove the series and how its creators refer to a wave of criticism viewing Moscow. January 22. INTERFAX.RU - series "School", which is running on the First Channel, has caused a lot of responses - from enthusiastic to negative. Someone accuses the filmmakers that they offend the audience of this film, someone says about the benefits of such problematic paintings, someone just praises realism as a genre. Comment on "School" did not trouble to all sorts of people, ordinary citizens were doing this on Internet forums and blogs, the officials - at public events. The fact expected if the creators of the series such a violent reaction and how they perceived their child, "Interfax was told the producer of" School "Igor Tolstunov. - Igor, what prompted you to create this series? - After the screening of feature film Valeria Gai Germanika (directed by series "School" - IF) "Everybody dies, but I will remain" at the Cannes International Film Festival Director-General of 1 channel, Konstantin L. Ernst proposed the establishment in the same style with the same artistic director of the multi-TV film about the life of schoolchildren. - Do you expect so much critical arrows to the "School" and how they perceive? - Of course, expected. Because of unusual and radical for television of our film, we realized that part of the TV audience will perceive the film negative, but did not expect it to happen simultaneously. - Do not you think that the excitement and the opposite opinion, caused by release of the series "School" can be explained only by the fact that Russia has about the same number of schools "bad" and "good"? - I do not think that the school is being displayed in our film "bad." This is a common Moscow school. - If you find that the director "overdoes" or too sharp for television depicts a particular situation, whether you are going in such a case to intervene in the creative process or just to be able to argue with Valeria? - Since the beginning of joint work with the director, we share our vision of material, its feeling. It is often the case that opinions on certain issues to disagree - this is completely normal working situation. But even in these cases, we always try to find the main thing that unites us, and on this basis will certainly arrive at a consensus. - Who you think the real heroes in the "school": teachers, parents or students? - All members of school life on the right are equal heroes. http://www.interfax.ru/culture/txt.asp?id=119953 Последний раз редактировалось Тютчев; 23.01.2010 в 02:36. Причина: Добавлено сообщение |
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Again deuce
In the Year of the teachers have to deal with the problem not the series "School" and the problems of the school itself January 22, 2010 in the near future, President Dmitry Medvedev will sign a national program "Our new school". About our old school has been told in the second week of prime-time Channel One. And even if uncomplicated labor director series "School" Valeria Gai Germanika caused such extensive discussions, it means at this point we just hurts. So, should be treated. And not cheap analgesics in the form of the ban showing the series, but seriously, thoughtfully, step by step, reading all the running problems. Apparently, came to this wise conclusion, and in the Moscow Department of Education, let alone school N 945 in the sleeping area Zyablikova, where continued shooting scandalous series. - Director of media is not talking - politely warned the guard school. - And inside I do not miss. I had to go to the frost. On the door hangs a school announcement: "A set of children in a theatrical troupe. Collection on Wednesday in the auditorium.
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"School" was ready
Producer series "School" Igor Tolstunov in an interview with Interfax reported on how it was decided to remove the series and how its creators refer to a wave of criticism viewing Moscow. January 22. INTERFAX.RU - series "School", which is running on the First Channel, has caused a lot of responses - from enthusiastic to negative. Someone accuses the filmmakers that they offend the audience of this film, someone says about the benefits of such problematic paintings, someone just praises realism as a genre. Comment on "School" did not trouble to all sorts of people, ordinary citizens were doing this on Internet forums and blogs, the officials - at public events. The fact expected if the creators of the series such a violent reaction and how they perceived their child, "Interfax was told the producer of" School "Igor Tolstunov. - Igor, what prompted you to create this series? - After the screening of feature film Valeria Gai Germanika (directed by series "School" - IF) "Everybody dies, but I will remain" at the Cannes International Film Festival Director-General of 1 channel, Konstantin L. Ernst proposed the establishment in the same style with the same artistic director of the multi-TV film about the life of schoolchildren. - Do you expect so much critical arrows to the "School" and how they perceive? - Of course, expected. Because of unusual and radical for television of our film, we realized that part of the TV audience will perceive the film negative, but did not expect it to happen simultaneously. - Do not you think that the excitement and the opposite opinion, caused by release of the series "School" can be explained only by the fact that Russia has about the same number of schools "bad" and "good"? - I do not think that the school is being displayed in our film "bad." This is a common Moscow school. - If you find that the director "overdoes" or too sharp for television depicts a particular situation, whether you are going in such a case to intervene in the creative process or just to be able to argue with Valeria? - Since the beginning of joint work with the director, we share our vision of material, its feeling. It is often the case that opinions on certain issues to disagree - this is completely normal working situation. But even in these cases, we always try to find the main thing that unites us, and on this basis will certainly arrive at a consensus. - Who you think the real heroes in the "school": teachers, parents or students? - All members of school life on the right are equal heroes. http://www.interfax.ru/culture/txt.asp?id=119953 |
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Based on several episodes, very objectively. Must-have watch all, then to draw conclusions for themselves.
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Valeria Hai Jugend (maiden name - Freud)
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Series as false as his name and psevdorimskoe rezhissera.Ubozhestvo, Chernukha and pornuha.V Indeed, what good can create outrageous uh ... girl harebrained (for example, judging by her interview with F. Bondarchuk):
"Fyodor Bondarchuk - Valeria Gai Germanica 01/06/2008 Immediately after the Cannes film festival in the studio of "Movies in the details of Fyodor Bondarchuk had a conversation with a young director Valeria Gai Germanica, which has won a special mention at Cannes jury debuts" Golden Camera "for his film" All will die, and I'll stay. " In the broadcast, the program will be released on June 5. We, as usual, publish the full version of the conversation. - Lera, thank you for coming to my studio! I congratulate you, with a victory in Cannes! This - the Golden Camera, yes? - Well, first of all thank you for inviting, thanks for the congratulations. But this is - not quite the Golden Camera, a special prize of the Golden Chamber. - Special Prize, the mention of the jury? - Well, yes ... yes ... Well, we still have there is one prize - there we were recognized youth, even gave us a statuette - "The recognition of the young critics' ... - How the statue looks like? - How to stone a woman! (both laugh)
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Hryapinskie idyll
Hryapinskie idyll
IETA GANAPOLSKY In the village Hryapino early spring brightens not particularly early, but with six in the morning to the local school, designed by Antonio Gaudi, pulled flocks of schoolchildren. The broad square in front of the school was gradually filled with quality Russian budget machine, built corporations Prokhorov, but the parents children's transport to school just for fun - the yellow school buses, and so drove to every house, picking up kids and takes them home after school. The children ran into the school corridor, but before you go to class, they always greeted with the duty - a representative gray-haired man with a beautiful mustache and a kind smile. He did not forget to nod in response to children, accompanying each tender parting glance. Some Pervoklashka stopped before duty and began to examine it closely. Mustaches embarrassed. - What are you looking at me like, girl?
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